GUILTY CA - Erin Corwin, 19, pregnant, Twentynine Palms, 28 June 2014 - #1

[DocBrew]

There is absolutely no way the Marine Corps is telling this man not to speak to the media about his missing wife due to a random policy of some sort. There is something else going on here.

 

[JeannaT]

There is absolutely no way the Marine Corps is telling this man not to speak to the media about his missing wife due to a random policy of some sort. There is something else going on here.

The whole family has made it clear they've all been told not to speak to the media by law enforcement. On Thursday, they were going to meet with LE to find out exactly what they could say and nothing has been said since - meaning (I'm guessing) the answer is you can't say anything at all.

 

[la2cabo]

There is absolutely no way the Marine Corps is telling this man not to speak to the media about his missing wife due to a random policy of some sort. There is something else going on here.

I completely disagree with you. It is the policy of all branches of the armed forces and there isn't a soldier out there that's willing to go against what he/she is told by their Commanding Officer.

 

[DocBrew]

A commanding officer isn't going to tell the husband of a missing wife not to appeal to the media to find her. That's nonsense. The media policy/vetting pertains primarily to soldiers speaking about corps policy, protocol, or secrets. None of that relates to this case.

The "black out" was done by law enforcement and/or the family themselves, and almost certainly not the corps.

 

[reversechapter]

If they HAVE asked them for complete silence, the mother and sister-in-law weren't listening. Plus, the Facebook page doesn't make sense. I think the police are planning to give them an update, and they want them to keep some of the things they PLAN to tell them secret. The idea of either LE or the military attempting to make someone keep silent about their missing loved one is preposterous (to me), UNLESS they have a specific reason for the request. When I say "preposterous," I mean I don't think most people would listen without a reason. For example, if the person is in danger, they are about to make an arrest, and maybe a few other instances. The LE spokesman I saw in an interview said they were treating the case as a "missing persons" case at the moment. They also have called in a special investigations unit, though. I don't like contradictory information, and I see it everywhere. I understand it to a degree, but I think most of it is unnecessary.

Does anyone know if there is a "endangered" designation for adults in California, and would that have resulted in a wider public alert of any kind? She was three months pregnant, which might be stretching the rules; I'm just wondering, and I can't find it Googling.

Add: Docbrew: Yeah, that seemed like nonsense to me, too.

 

[cluciano63]

What could family members possibly say to harm the investigation if they don't know anything?

 

[reversechapter]

What could family members possibly say to harm the investigation if they don't know anything?

I have a list of quotes I have invented after three years of this....one is the following:

If the public knows the information, the information is not confidential.


I'm not used to posting here, sorry I keep editing. Here's a real "gem" I despise: "Don't speculate! Do you want to jeopardize the investigation?" [Wow, if I can jeopardize the investigation from another state, something's wrong with the justice system.]

 

[Nora Charles]

I'm glad to see this because it adds to the very little we know about this young lady.

This is the first article I've seen which mentions photography as a hobby, and also the first I've seen that she works with rescue horses in California (not just previously in Tennessee). Some of her friends or family members have previously stated she was shy or timid (can't remember the exact words used) - added to the fact that she just got her driver license at age 18 and she's not yet 20, never lived far from her mom, was petite and pregnant, just moved in with her hubby a few months ago, and moved to an area she doesn't know anyone (as far as we know) - all of which made me picture her as someone who could have been naive and an easy "target" for a stranger with criminal intent.

That actually gave me some hope she might possibly be found captured but alive somewhere. For instance this is something I could speculate (all possible with the little which has been revealed)...her car breaks down or runs out of gas, a stranger offers to drive her somewhere since she left her cell phone at home (it hasn't been stated where it was found), perhaps she's worried/emotional due to the extreme heat and a recent miscarriage so not thinking straight, maybe she had a argument with her hubby before she left so he thought she got a hotel room for the night (just a possibility since we all argue), etc., which could end with a stranger abduction. At least this way I could create a scenario which made sense, involved a stranger, and left open the possibility she could be alive somewhere.

Now that my impression of her is changing to a person who has a hobby, is more aware of the area around her, and she's maybe more confident than some statements implied, I'm not sure I see that as a potential scenario. I'm REALLY hoping this doesn't turn out the way it looks. I'll just keep praying for her safe return and LE to perform their duties quickly to bring closure and healing to her family!

No, that's a new article.

Corwin, who has grandparents in Chattanooga, never lived farther than a mile from her parents before moving west in the fall, her sister-in-law DeeAnna Heavilin said Friday.

"She's just a really sweet girl, very close with her mom and family in general," Heavilin said. "She really likes photography. Her husband had gotten her a really nice camera."

Horses are another of Erin Corwin's passions. After working with horses in Tennessee, she connected with a horse rescue organization and spent time working there after arriving in California, Heavilin said. Her 20th birthday is July 15.

"This is something you have nightmares about whenever your kids move across the country because you can't get there, and you don't know their friends and they're somewhere where you can't touch them," Heavilin said. "It's what every parent's nightmare is made of and it's really heartbreaking that it's happening to our little family."

 

[blondgrl]

Ok, I knew I read this somewhere about Erin's cell phone. Here is the the link
http://canadajournal.net/world/erin-corwin-marines-pregnant-wife-missing-11313-2014/

http://www.wkrn.com/story/25937330/pregnant-tenn-woman-missing-in-california

 

[Nora Charles]

I'm counting 30 comments, but not by anyone with sarcasm in the name. Is it possible he deleted his posts, but you viewed it before the deletion so it's "cached" on your computer and still looks like it's there? Not sure how things like that work, so just guessing.

You nailed it jash...you have to be signed into FB to see all 30 comments including sarcasim's. Thank you!

 

[JeannaT]

What could family members possibly say to harm the investigation if they don't know anything?

From their postings on the Locate Erin facebook page, they do know at least a few extra tidbits, or so they say. They're not allowed to tell any details they have additional to what's in the missing poster.

Working with LE can be a huge balancing act. If you make them mad or do things they wish you wouldn't, they may call the family uncooperative and stop investigating. I think anyone who has followed Maura Murray's story saw that happen to her father Fred. It's not a good idea to get outside the good graces of a police investigation.

 

[Kaliste]

The whole family has made it clear they've all been told not to speak to the media by law enforcement. On Thursday, they were going to meet with LE to find out exactly what they could say and nothing has been said since - meaning (I'm guessing) the answer is you can't say anything at all.

LE must have a given them a very good reason then. If my child/spouse/sibling were missing they would have to give me a very good reason or threaten me with arrest to keep me from talking and searching.

I'm wondering if they have information in texts, or a note left behind? LE doesn't seem to want or need the publics help otherwise they would have given more information (clothing description, etc).

 

[JeannaT]

I'm counting 30 comments, but not by anyone with sarcasm in the name. Is it possible he deleted his posts, but you viewed it before the deletion so it's "cached" on your computer and still looks like it's there? Not sure how things like that work, so just guessing.

The sarcasm guy's posts are still there. And for those who can see them, click on his facebook icon and visit his page - you'll laugh right out loud. VERY funny stuff.

 

[Nora Charles]

I have been wondering if LE would request silence if they knew she was being held captive somewhere and didn't want to publicize that they were on the trail of the person.

Even if LE has instructed the family not to talk, why wasn't Erin's husband standing near his mother-in-law when she was interviewed? I've seen that plenty of times in other cases (and it actually creates empathy for the husband since he's usually crying). Also, a family spokesperson often makes some appearances (without saying anything revealing), and that keeps the missing person's face in the media...but I don't see that happening in this case. Isn't there some way they can keep from revealing anything important, but still remind everyone Erin is missing?!

If they HAVE asked them for complete silence, the mother and sister-in-law weren't listening. Plus, the Facebook page doesn't make sense. I think the police are planning to give them an update, and they want them to keep some of the things they PLAN to tell them secret. The idea of either LE or the military attempting to make someone keep silent about their missing loved one is preposterous (to me), UNLESS they have a specific reason for the request. When I say "preposterous," I mean I don't think most people would listen without a reason. For example, if the person is in danger, they are about to make an arrest, and maybe a few other instances. The LE spokesman I saw in an interview said they were treating the case as a "missing persons" case at the moment. They also have called in a special investigations unit, though. I don't like contradictory information, and I see it everywhere. I understand it to a degree, but I think most of it is unnecessary.

Does anyone know if there is a "endangered" designation for adults in California, and would that have resulted in a wider public alert of any kind? She was three months pregnant, which might be stretching the rules; I'm just wondering, and I can't find it Googling.

Add: Docbrew: Yeah, that seemed like nonsense to me, too.

 

[JeannaT]

LE must have a given them a very good reason then. If my child/spouse/sibling were missing they would have to give me a very good reason or threaten me with arrest to keep me from talking and searching.

I'm wondering if they have information in texts, or a note left behind? LE doesn't seem to want or need the publics help otherwise they would have given more information (clothing description, etc).

Yes. I think they've made that very clear that they don't want the public's help with a search or tips.

 

[cluciano63]

I have been wondering if LE would request silence if they knew she was being held captive somewhere and didn't want to publicize that they were on the trail of the person.

Even if LE has instructed the family not to talk, why wasn't Erin's husband standing near his mother-in-law when she was interviewed? I've seen that plenty of times in other cases (and it actually creates empathy for the husband since he's usually crying). Also, a family spokesperson often makes some appearances (without saying anything revealing), and that keeps the missing person's face in the media...but I don't see that happening in this case. Isn't there some way they can keep from revealing anything important, but still remind everyone Erin is missing?!

But isn't LE searching the park area? Why do that now, if they know she is being held captive somewhere? And if the family also knew this, why would they need to reach out to the public? I don't think LE knows where she is...just that maybe her phone pinged last at JT (I am guessing-not released as far as I know.) but they may have a suspect. Still I don't see how the family could slip up and release info unless they are aware of this also.

 

[pamlet]

Regarding sarcasm guy's comments. . When I saw them they were in reply to comments by others. . Took me awhile to find them.

 

[Meemaw12]

http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/06/us/ca.../index.html?sr=tw070614missingwife3pstorylink

New info in the video...

 

[cluciano63]

My sound is not working...can someone post what is news from video?

 

[colette]

Thanks Meemaw12, interesting bit at the end and the first I've heard of the reason he waited until the next day to notify people....was he thought Erin was spending the night at a ranch, but the mother in-law really didn't get a straight answer from him.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/06/us/ca.../index.html?sr=tw070614missingwife3pstorylink