GUILTY CA - Erin Corwin, 19, pregnant, Twentynine Palms, 28 June 2014 - #11

[77DarkHorse7]

BBM: Respectfully, what are you talking about? I'm failing to make the connection with the closure thing. Also, is it really necessary to refer to Jon as a "strange bird"? I'm not sure why you think this, however, I find calling a victim a name of any sort to be completely disrespectful.

If that is what you feel I did, I assure you that was not my intention. I guess that's an extension of Erin's compassion, that she would love someone who's a little different. However, and please correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Erin was the victim of this crime? I don't think I called her a name in my post. But if I did, I'm sorry for that too. It was a long post.....

 

[heartgoesout]

In my opinion, I think NL had much more motive than CL. ...and one that doesn't need to be guessed at and makes sense. The anger she must have felt that a friend betrayed her trust by repeatedly sleeping with her husband. Then she goes and gets pregnant and jeopardizes her future. This makes much more sense to me, just waiting for these other arrests.

 

[la2cabo]

If that is what you feel I did, I assure you that was not my intention. I guess that's an extension of Erin's compassion, that she would love someone who's a little different. However, and please correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Erin was the victim of this crime? I don't think I called her a name in my post. But if I did, I'm sorry for that too. It was a long post.....

Of course Erin is a victim in this crime but Jon is as well. He lost his wife. The woman he loved and pledged his life to. Unfortunately bad things can and do happen to good people. Did you not refer to Jon as a strange bird?

Also, can you please explain the first paragraph of your post? TIA

 

[Mrs. Gladden]

There's always the possibility that the fear of being caught with CL masked any 6th sense she might have had that things just weren't right that day. And the reason I mentioned a 6th sense, I heard a police officer say one time, "If that 6th sense is telling you something isn't right, pay attention to it because more than likely something isn't right."


Sorry.....I intended to quote clu.

 

[la2cabo]

In my opinion, I think NL had much more motive than CL. ...and one that doesn't need to be guessed at and makes sense. The anger she must have felt that a friend betrayed her trust by repeatedly sleeping with her husband. Then she goes and gets pregnant and jeopardizes her future. This makes much more sense to me, just waiting for these other arrests.

I do believe that NL is involved, however, I don't think she "pulled the trigger". I think she helped cover up after the fact. I will be so happy when we learn more facts about this case so we can stop guessing and trying to make sense out of nonsense.

 

[heartgoesout]

The connection is, in the article the author claims JC said he has closure. Many people would find it hard to have closure for something so traumatizing in such a short period of time. I agree, however I assume he meant closure that she was found.

 

[Seajay]

The guy being married, having a affair, his girlfriend getting pregnant by him is unfortunately a good enough motive for murder by many a man who has found themselves in that situation. It happens way too often. No other motive had to be present during most of those times. IMO, MOO.

 

[cluciano63]

There's always the possibility that the fear of being caught with CL masked any 6th sense she might have had that things just weren't right that day. And the reason I mentioned a 6th sense, I heard a police officer say one time, "If that 6th sense is telling you something isn't right, pay attention to it because more than likely something isn't right."


Sorry.....I intended to quote clu.

But I have not yet seen any indication that Erin sensed any danger at all...? Or was anything but excited for a "special day" with CL.

 

[77DarkHorse7]

Of course Erin is a victim in this crime but Jon is as well. He lost his wife. The woman he loved and pledged his life to. Unfortunately bad things can and do happen to good people. Did you not refer to Jon as a strange bird?

Also, can you please explain the first paragraph of your post? TIA

Absolutely,.... I was stating my own personal views about the affair and wondered if there is reliable evidence that should lead us to believe it actually continued.

 

[Mrs. Gladden]

The guy being married, having a affair, his girlfriend getting pregnant by him is unfortunately a good enough motive for murder by many a man who has found themselves in that situation. It happens way too often. No other motive had to be present during most of those times. IMO, MOO.

It happens so often that a show was produced by the name of "Deadly Affairs".

 

[la2cabo]

Absolutely,.... I was stating my own personal views about the affair and wondered if there is reliable evidence that should lead us to believe it actually continued.

We can only go by what we're told in MSM and what they've quoted as Jon stating as a fact.

 

[cluciano63]

Affair either continued or resumed. It had happened earlier in the year and was clearly happening when Erin was texting her friend.

 

[77DarkHorse7]

It happens so often that a show was produced by the name of "Deadly Affairs".

Stupid Joey Buttafuoco.

 

[Mrs. Gladden]

But I have not yet seen any indication that Erin sensed any danger at all...? Or was anything but excited for a "special day" with CL.

I agree. There's nothing that indicates she had any fear. That's basically what I was saying....maybe the excitement of the affair, the "fear" that comes from possibly getting caught (which plays a huge part in affairs)....it's purely speculation on my part, but I can understand if things weren't quite right that day with CL, she may have missed them.

Did I dig my hole deeper? LOL

 

[smc1225]

CL's killing of EC was one more thing to get out of the way before he moved his family to Alaska. He was cleaning up all his loose ends and moving on. I really don't think there was anymore to it than that. He probably figured no one would be able to put him and Erin together that day. I have to wonder if he thought maybe that suspicion would fall on JC and the police would focus on JC and meanwhile, CL would have packed up his family and moved to Alaska.

I think that if EC's friend in TN didn't have those texts, CL might not have been under LE's spotlight quite as quickly. Her texts were used to get the search warrant for his house and vehicle once EC's vehicle was recovered. No texts - no search warrants - no having to go to the ranch to get the .22 which should have been home. Then LE wouldn't have spoken with IM who when talking to LE gave them more information about NL/CL and LE was there when NL/CL came back to the ranch.

MOO...of course!

 

[Seajay]

It happens so often that a show was produced by the name of "Deadly Affairs".

Exactly! There is always a triangle, and the odd man out always ends up dead. For no other reason except to get them out of the way of the new couple. Many times they don't feel divorce is an option, due to religious beliefs or money that would have to be split. Or to hide a lie, as in the husband telling the girlfriend he was divorcing his wife when he wasn't. The gf doesn't even have to be pregnant. The cheating husband just has to want to be with her and not want to go through a divorce.

In the cases where the wife is the cheater and is involved in the murder of her husband, it's usually because she wants the life insurance money or all the joint holdings to start her new life with her new love.

 

[77DarkHorse7]

CL's killing of EC was one more thing to get out of the way before he moved his family to Alaska. He was cleaning up all his loose ends and moving on. I really don't think there was anymore to it than that. He probably figured no one would be able to put him and Erin together that day. I have to wonder if he thought maybe that suspicion would fall on JC and the police would focus on JC and meanwhile, CL would have packed up his family and moved to Alaska.

I think that if EC's friend in TN didn't have those texts, CL might not have been under LE's spotlight quite as quickly. Her texts were used to get the search warrant for his house and vehicle once EC's vehicle was recovered. No texts - no search warrants - no having to go to the ranch to get the .22 which should have been home. Then LE wouldn't have spoken with IM who when talking to LE gave them more information about NL/CL and LE was there when NL/CL came back to the ranch.

MOO...of course!

You are sso right!, those texts were definitely crucial in getting CL arrested.

 

[heartgoesout]

We can only go by what we're told in MSM and what they've quoted as Jon stating as a fact.

Huh? Since when can we not state opinion or speculate per the rules?

 

[Voice4theSilent]

I do believe that NL is involved, however, I don't think she "pulled the trigger". I think she helped cover up after the fact. I will be so happy when we learn more facts about this case so we can stop guessing and trying to make sense out of nonsense.

ITA with everything you posted. Expanding with MOO.....I don't think it probable or likely that NL orchestrated the entire thing, lured Erin out, killed her, framed her husband and father of her daughter (and sole supporter of their family) and was so convincingly cunning to the point that LE believed CL is the one who murdered Erin....and then went bragging about it all (never finding the body, blah, blah) to whom some believe to be the town chatter box. I do believe she knew pretty quickly what had occurred and helped try and protect her husband and, more importantly, her family unit and the dreams she had for her future. MOO IMO MHO JMO....and all of that jazz.

 

[Mrs. Gladden]

CL's killing of EC was one more thing to get out of the way before he moved his family to Alaska. He was cleaning up all his loose ends and moving on. I really don't think there was anymore to it than that. He probably figured no one would be able to put him and Erin together that day. I have to wonder if he thought maybe that suspicion would fall on JC and the police would focus on JC and meanwhile, CL would have packed up his family and moved to Alaska.

I think that if EC's friend in TN didn't have those texts, CL might not have been under LE's spotlight quite as quickly. Her texts were used to get the search warrant for his house and vehicle once EC's vehicle was recovered. No texts - no search warrants - no having to go to the ranch to get the .22 which should have been home. Then LE wouldn't have spoken with IM who when talking to LE gave them more information about NL/CL and LE was there when NL/CL came back to the ranch.

MOO...of course!

Early on, more often than not, comments were made after those MSM articles that the husband did it. I believe that CL knew the husband would be the first person that LE looked at. Admittedly, there was no way I would have had a clue about an affair if it hadn't been for those text messages. What CL now realizes is that there was a "loose end" he knew nothing about and that "loose end" played a huge part in putting him where he is at the moment.