GUILTY CA - Erin Corwin, 19, pregnant, Twentynine Palms, 28 June 2014 - #2

[SuziQ]

I don't think it was stated Erin or Jon was at the party. And I think it was a different post where it was stated that Erin would mention to others, when her husband was out of the room, that she was unhappy in her marriage. Of which, neither info is verified. FWIW.

 

[necco]

Folks,
We don't know what was going on between Jonathan and Erin. Some men internalize the trauma of miscarriages and blame themselves for "hurting" their gf/wife. If Jonathan shut down emotionally, Erin could have, alone in a strange "city" turned to a friend for comfort. Jonathan may have even known this and they may have been working it out. It happens. While this rumor (sorry, but that article has wicked sketchy sources, so I'm still calling it a rumor) is disheartening, it in no way makes Erin or Jonathan any less victims at the moment.

An affair, while to a generation before may have been a deal breaker, in some couples today, it can and is worked through.
We don't know what their marriage arraignments were.

As for eloping and a somewhat spontaneous wedding, my guess it was to get on the housing list. I had a friend who eloped in college, 6 months before she was supposed to get married, to get on a base housing list. She literally got married and came back to the dorm and her roommates for the rest of the semester. She had another wedding later. Military people do that. It's just how you have to work the system.

As for the confusion about 2 months or 3 months pregnant, she's 19 and miscarried 6 months ago. Her body might not run like a swiss clock. Between that and the doctor saying you're pregnant from your last period and not from date of conception thing, tons of people get confused.

I think Jonathan is innocent and I don't see Erin being some evil seductress. I think they were young sweet kids in love in a really complicated and ever changing situation. Sometimes people make less than stellar decisions. No one deserves to go through this though.

 

[Eileen730]

Yes, but I don't think that was necessarily when she told someone about it. There was discussion about the party on the "Praying for Erin Corwin" FB page, I believe, but I read the info about the affair on the comment section under a news article. If the night before she went missing WAS when she told someone about the affair, well....that's even more ominous. Sort of like shutting her up quickly before news spread????? I don't know. It's just a shame all the way around.

But (he) might have been there that night and they set up this meeting for the following morning.
I wonder when she decided to do the JT excursion?

 

[necco]

But (he) might have been there that night and they set up this meeting for the following morning.
I wonder when she decided to do the JT excursion?

At least the previous afternoon. She discussed her trip to Joshua Tree with her mom Friday afternoon.

 

[Knox]

I wonder if Erin's husband had told his family about things with Erin, and the aunt is the one willing to tell all. Otherwise, what is her motive, and why is she the only one saying anything??

If I had to guess at her motivation, I think she believes she is defending family. Many, many, comments were made in various places regarding Jon.

 

[SStarr33]

Oh geeze, somehow I got unsubscribed and missed a ton. Is the BF the news reported a for sure thing? Sounds like it is.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

A poster here previously shared about a Marine they knew who had gotten discharged for having an affair with another Marine's wife. Evidently, USMC deals with this harshly. Yowza, talk about motive!

The situation was probably more complicated than one Marine having an affair with another Marine's wife.
If a situation like that is known, it will probably alter a Marine's promotions. To get kicked out dishonorably, I think the Marine may have been a married officer or high ranking enlisted who messed with a junior enlisted's wife.
If a guy or gal is known to be having affairs (with anybody) they will be counseled imo. A good commander wants to help their troops grow and there is room for mistakes depending on the situation. I just don't want peeps thinking that if there's an affair, one is immediately discharged dishonorably. Military members are valued more than that and more information is taken into account.

But it is crossing the lines in rank thing that is intolerable for more reasons than one. With rank comes responsibility to demonstrate honor and the fraternization policy is strict in order to keep the commands structured.

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/justicelawlegislation/a/fraternization.-ukn.htm

 

[nikb]

Just for space reasons I didn't quote your whole post Necco but I agree with you, at least on most of it (I don't see myself ever joining the "affairs are not a big deal" camp). We really don't know what was going on between them, or how they were with each other. I still see them both as victims and I just hope she's found and they find out what has happened to her.

I know the odds are probably less than zero but I'd love to hear she's found after running off to get some time to herself.

 

[necco]

Just for space reasons I didn't quote your whole post Necco but I agree with you, at least on most of it (I don't see myself ever joining the "affairs are not a big deal" camp). We really don't know what was going on between them, or how they were with each other. I still see them both as victims and I just hope she's found and they find out what has happened to her.

I know the odds are probably less than zero but I'd love to hear she's found after running off to get some time to herself.

Self moderating and removed this.

 

[BRRI]

The situation was probably more complicated than one Marine having an affair with another Marine's wife.
If a situation like that is known, it will probably alter a Marine's promotions. To get kicked out dishonorably, I think the Marine may have been a married officer or high ranking enlisted who messed with a junior enlisted's wife.
If a guy or gal is known to be having affairs (with anybody) they will be counseled imo. A good commander wants to help their troops grow and there is room for mistakes depending on the situation. I just don't want peeps thinking that if there's an affair, one is immediately discharged dishonorably. Military members are valued more than that and more information is taken into account.

But it is crossing the lines in rank thing that is intolerable for more reasons than one. With rank comes responsibility to demonstrate honor and the fraternization policy is strict in order to keep the commands structured.

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/justicelawlegislation/a/fraternization.-ukn.htm

I was the one who said it. He was an unmarried, single, 2LT. He slept with an enlisted's wife. There was a trial and he was dishonorably discharged. He went to a military school too, so he owes a ton of money since he didn't fulfill his commitment.

 

[la2cabo]

Folks,
We don't know what was going on between Jonathan and Erin. Some men internalize the trauma of miscarriages and blame themselves for "hurting" their gf/wife. If Jonathan shut down emotionally, Erin could have, alone in a strange "city" turned to a friend for comfort. Jonathan may have even known this and they may have been working it out. It happens. While this rumor (sorry, but that article has wicked sketchy sources, so I'm still calling it a rumor) is disheartening, it in no way makes Erin or Jonathan any less victims at the moment.

An affair, while to a generation before may have been a deal breaker, in some couples today, it can and is worked through or not a big deal.
We don't know what their marriage arraignments were.

As for eloping and a somewhat spontaneous wedding, my guess it was to get on the housing list. I had a friend who eloped in college, 6 months before she was supposed to get married, to get on a base housing list. She literally got married and came back to the dorm and her roommates for the rest of the semester. She had another wedding later. Military people do that. It's just how you have to work the system.

As for the confusion about 2 months or 3 months pregnant, she's 19 and miscarried 6 months ago. Her body might not run like a swiss clock. Between that and the doctor saying you're pregnant from your last period and not from date of conception thing, tons of people get confused.

I think Jonathan is innocent and I don't see Erin being some evil seductress. I think they were young sweet kids in love in a really complicated and ever changing situation. Sometimes people make less than stellar decisions. No one deserves to go through this though.

:goodpost: :goodpost: :tyou:

 

[cluciano63]

I thought adultery was actually illegal in the military?

 

[Woe.be.gone]

I don't think it was stated Erin or Jon was at the party. And I think it was a different post where it was stated that Erin would mention to others, when her husband was out of the room, that she was unhappy in her marriage. Of which, neither info is verified. FWIW.

Jumping off your post ~

I'm really uncomfortable with this affair rumor. Not only does it add salt to Jon's wounds (who hasn't been charged with anything) but it is totally unfounded. Besides, at two or three months, how could anyone know who fathered a child in utero?
I read she had an appointment scheduled with a doctor to find out more about her pregnancy - how many weeks along and such.
Are peeps suggesting that Erin and Jon were living as roommates? We don't know if that's true and I doubt it.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

I was the one who said it. He was an unmarried, single, 2LT. He slept with an enlisted's wife. There was a trial and he was dishonorably discharged. He went to a military school too, so he owes a ton of money since he didn't fulfill his commitment.

So, his punishment involved crossing the lines of rank. He should have known better.

 

[DocBrew]

So we're all looking at this from an 'alleged boyfriend did it' angle when if the affair facts are as recently reported it could just as easily have been the husband. JMO.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

I thought adultery was actually illegal in the military?

I explained it the best I could as far as I know. Obviously, I'm not JAG or military police! :thinking:

 

[BRRI]

Jumping off your post ~

I'm really uncomfortable with this affair rumor. Not only does it add salt to Jon's wounds (who hasn't been charged with anything) but it is totally unfounded. Besides, at two or three months, how could anyone know who fathered a child in utero?
I read she had an appointment scheduled with a doctor to find out more about her pregnancy - how many weeks along and such.
Are peeps suggesting that Erin and Jon were living as roommates? We don't know if that's true and I doubt it.

Many women are able to tell when they are ovulating, or at the very least, know who they slept with timed with their cycle. If she was having an affair, she doesn't strike me as the type to go sleep with someone and immediately return home and sleep with her husband. She strikes me as the type that if she was having an affair, things probably weren't great with her husband and they were not intimate, or not intimate to time right with the pregnancy.

Also, I don't consider a couple who are not having sex as "roommates". Things happen. Sickness, depression, exhaustion, different schedules. Lots of things could have led her to not be overly intimate (if that's the case).

 

[Eileen730]

Jumping off your post ~

I'm really uncomfortable with this affair rumor. Not only does it add salt to Jon's wounds (who hasn't been charged with anything) but it is totally unfounded. Besides, at two or three months, how could anyone know who fathered a child in utero?
I read she had an appointment scheduled with a doctor to find out more about her pregnancy - how many weeks along and such.
Are peeps suggesting that Erin and Jon were living as roommates? We don't know if that's true and I doubt it.

The affair rumor has appeared numerous times since day one and by a relative. And no one has denied it.
Is this something we want to believe ? Heck NO. But it happens every day in our wonderful world.
We read threads just like this one almost every day many times more than one thread women that just vanish.
No one want to blame her husband and I don't think anyone has but if this is all true there is enough MOTIVE to go around for all parties involved. Its up to LE to find out who did it and what happened to her. JMO

 

[BRRI]

So we're all looking at this from an 'alleged boyfriend did it' angle when if the affair facts are as recently reported it could just as easily have been the husband. JMO.

Or the wife

 

[SStarr33]

Have you guys seen this:

http://www.z1077fm.com/missing-twentynine-palms-woman-may-have-had-a-lover/