GUILTY CA - Erin Corwin, 19, pregnant, Twentynine Palms, 28 June 2014 - #3

[Meemaw12]

I posted this link yesterday, Erin's SIL DH said: "We were all together a month ago, and everything seemed perfectly fine and normal between them," Heavilin said.

Per Erin's mother, Erin found out she was preg. on Father's day June 15th Father's day, which would be approx. 2 weeks after DH saw both of them (don't know if EC n JC traveled back east or DH traveled to CA.)

I don't know how Preg tests work (didn't have them in my day.) How far along do you have to be for it to register? IF she was 2 or 3 mths, seems like she would have said something like I am late or I might be preg. to those close to her during the visit. She and her SIL seem pretty close. Especially since she miscarried sometime after Jan 17th.

Maybe just me but this seems odd to me. I guess she could be so private she didn't tell anyone.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

It's tough to put yourself in Erin's position. Assuming that the affair stuff is true, I might be inclined to pretend that my husband is the father. It's less trouble for everyone involved. But it may not be easy to lie about that sort of thing. And that might be why we have had conflicting information about how long she has been pregnant. Maybe she intentionally misled people about it.

Your points are why I'm confused about the pregnancy/affair story. Why would Erin reveal her pregnancy to Jon on Father's Day (of all days) if she was guilty of having an affair and suspected the father was someone other than Jon? She wouldn't be showing and most men wouldn't know you'd missed your period unless you make a big point of it. If guilty, wouldn't she try to hide it until she figured out the timing and who was where when (meaning if husband and affair guy both had engaged with her within a short time period - sorry). If both had, how could she even know who fathered the baby? For these reasons, the story seems so odd.
Even if she told an affair guy that she was pregnant, how could they assume it was his baby? Why would he have to kill her? Especially this early in the story.

Oh God. What if affair guy is of another race? That's the only reason I can think of and it took me this long.

 

[77DarkHorse7]

Well when JC and EC eloped, they vowed to be "Attributed" to each other. In other words. Hypothetically...

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Yes, he is the last one that saw her (that we know of) as she left their apartment that morning. He also tried to call her throughout the day (wonder if her phone was already off or if LE was able to get some information from those missed calls that were placed to her phone?) and started calling around to friends that night when he still couldn't reach her. IF the affair is true, perhaps one of her friends tried to cover for her and downplay her being gone? Perhaps that is where he got the idea she might be staying at "the ranch"?

Also, I was reading through the comments on that article and a few people stated that this very article DID include something about the affair but was quickly edited to remove it shortly after it was put on the site.

If Erin was having an affair, wouldn't she leave her phone on? It bothers me that they are reporting the phone was off, as in 'off off'. I understand there's bad reception problems but, even with that, messages go through, right? Erin, imo, would keep the phone on to retrieve her messages versus going off the grid on purpose (because that would draw attention to her hiding something).

Jon's sister was going to comment about the phone during a TV interview before the interviewer cut her off.
Was she going to say the phone was left behind at home, the phone had been turned off, the phone had no reception, what? She had something she was going to say about Erin's phone though.

Also, I just remembered that early in the case, there was a rumor that they found Erin's phone. I thought, how lucky is that?, before the subject was dropped.

 

[nrbc]

Thank you so much for the answers! It doesn't make sense that they haven't searched their house. They have to have detailed info that their not releasing that keeps their focus elsewhere. As much as I would love to know more details, if keeping it close to the vest will help bring her home then I'm glad their doing so! Praying for the answers. Blessings to all!

 

[karmagage]

If Erin was having an affair, wouldn't she leave her phone on? It bothers me that they are reporting the phone was off, as in 'off off'. I understand there's bad reception problems but, even with that, messages go through, right? Erin, I would think, we keep the phone on to retrive her messages versus going off the grid on purpose (because that would draw attention to her hiding something).

Jon's sister was going to comment about the phone during a TV interview before the interviewer cut her off.
Was she going to say the phone was left behind at home, the phone had been turned off, the phone had no reception, what? She had something she was going to say about Erin's phone though.

Also, I just remembered that early in the case, there was a rumor that they found Erin's phone. I thought, how lucky is that?, before the subject was dropped.

Woe.be.gone - we are definitely on the same page. Exactly. These are the same things running through my mind.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Well when JC and EC eloped, they vowed to be "Attributed" to each other. In other words. Hypothetically...

Oh, thanks for clearing that up. NOT!
What does that mean? Am I the only one who doesn't understand? lol!

 

[m_brown]

I think perhaps the phone may have been left in the car, and possibly turned off.

 

[m_brown]

I think perhaps the phone may have been left in the car, and possibly turned off.

which I now realize means absolutely nothing when I use words such as "think, perhaps, may, and possibly" all in the same sentence, lol.

 

[m_brown]

you are not alone! I promise!

Oh, thanks for clearly that up. NOT!
What does that mean? Am I the only one who doesn't understand? lol!

 

[RSC]

You can test a few days before you even "miss" your cycle. So around 4 weeks at the earliest.

After my first miscarriage, I wouldn't have even told my husband "I might be pregnant," because I wouldn't have wanted to jinx anything.

I posted this link yesterday, Erin's SIL DH said: "We were all together a month ago, and everything seemed perfectly fine and normal between them," Heavilin said.

Per Erin's mother, Erin found out she was preg. on Father's day June 15th Father's day, which would be approx. 2 weeks after DH saw both of them (don't know if EC n JC traveled back east or DH traveled to CA.)

I don't know how Preg tests work (didn't have them in my day.) How far along do you have to be for it to register? IF she was 2 or 3 mths, seems like she would have said something like I am late or I might be preg. to those close to her during the visit. She and her SIL seem pretty close. Especially since she miscarried sometime after Jan 17th.

Maybe just me but this seems odd to me. I guess she could be so private she didn't tell anyone.

 

[smc1225]

Oh, thanks for clearing that up. NOT!
What does that mean? Am I the only one who doesn't understand? lol!

I'm lost as well. Could 'Attributed' = 'Partnered'? I honestly have no idea.

 

[justonedrin]

Erin may not have told her husband that she was pregnant. he may have seen the "pee stick" indicating she was pregnant. or walked in when she was checking it or over heard her telling a friend or even over heard her telling the 'BF". with the little lack of detailed statements we can not assume he knows of the pregnancy b/c Erin told him. there are other ways.and then she may have fudged on the time line when confronted. he claims Fathers Day is when he found out. and less than 2 weeks later she is missing and the length of pregnancy is being estimated at between less than 2 months and 3 months as cited in news articles.

statements from the family asserting what Erin did or did not do/said or did not say and when are all subjective. they are now trying to get a timeline by backtracking. not really all that reliable IMO.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/07/0...earance-pregnant-military-spouse-erin-corwin/

Article above reports canines being used - every source available.
Experts tell us dogs are only as good as their handlers.
I wasn't aware of the obstacles posed by the desert when it comes to canine searches. Thanks 77DarkHorse7.

 

[justonedrin]

and also for those of who you are wondering about the phone being "off" immediately,you may want to head over to the Heather Elvis thread and read about her cell phone. . she was calling the "BF" 4 times ending at 339 am and her phone went dead forever more at 341 am--- no more data, pings, calls, useage, etc etc etc.--- and which is just about the same time as when security cameras show the truck he owned would have been traveling to the location she was at. so whoever was in the truck immediately took her phone away and made sure that it gave away no more info. ever. she was 20 as well. tragic case.

so it could be whoever was with Erin did something along these lines.

 

[RSC]

So LE thinks #1 has the "attribute", but really #2 has it? Am I reading that right? What incentive would #1 have to be part of this?

Well when JC and EC eloped, they vowed to be "Attributed" to each other. In other words. Hypothetically...

 

[Meemaw12]

http://www.kesq.com/news/erin-corwins-family-prepares-for-week-three-of-search-efforts/26954668

Erin Corwin's family prepares for week three of search efforts

Laura Yanez, KESQ News Channel 3 & CBS Local 2 Reporter, [email protected]
POSTED: 08:30 AM PDT Jul 15, 2014
UPDATED: 08:49 AM PDT Jul 15, 2014

 

[Woe.be.gone]

which I now realize means absolutely nothing when I use words such as "think, perhaps, may, and possibly" all in the same sentence, lol.

Good idea/possibility though.

 

[escape2sc]

new interesting comment on the z107 article.

http://www.z1077fm.com/breaking-news-in-case-of-missing-twentynine-palms-woman/

 

[AzPistonsGirl]

is this HYPOTHETICAL attribute stuff about a tattoo?

ETA: She asks, clearly lost...