GUILTY CA - Erin Corwin, 19, pregnant, Twentynine Palms, 28 June 2014 - #6

[NaturalSelection]

I'm lost!! Do we think EC was shot by a potato?

My theory is it was a yam. The authorities will be looking for a rogue potato, but a yam would slip under their radar.:what:

 

[Woe.be.gone]

ABC news had a 2 minute piece at 4:10 p.m. covering Erin's case.
They showed CL's picture stating his name (is he an official suspect now?) and Cpl. Randy Naquin, public affairs officer, said the focus is looking for and finding a crime scene. They mentioned that CL denied knowing Erin at first and he claims he went hunting on the day she went missing. Also reported was CL feared his wife would divorce him and keep him from his child if she found out about Erin which is why he denied knowing her at first.

I'm curious why it took three weeks for the case to receive national coverage. Or, why at all? Some cases don't and some cases do from the beginning it seems.

The report ended with the suggestion LE can't rule out if Erin disappeared of her own will or not. Ugh!

 

[NaturalSelection]

Okay, since I've made a number of potato cannons, let's put this to bed. They shoot potatoes, apples, oranges, etc. but not bullets. He didn't use that.

 

[AzPistonsGirl]

I think that list (of things to shoot from a potato gun) is kind of a joke. And agree with the sentiment: how can you shoot a .40 round from one of these?

 

[jojo87]

Thanks for that mikkismom. Who'd have thunk a potato could be a potential weapon.

 

[goldenbear]

I'm lost!! Do we think EC was shot by a potato?

You could kill someone by shooting them with a potato but another type of missile could have been used in the potato gun.

 

[necco]

A potato gun could kill someone, even with a potato.

You could, in theory, pile a bunch of bullets into a potato gun and shoot it, especially if you added something else into the mix to seal the barrel, like wadding them up in paper or playdoh. (I have no idea why you'd do this, but the physics is possible)

However, if you shot bullets out of a potato cannon, the whole bullet would go, casing and all. So you would NOT end up with spent shells. And the casings would not end up with the firing dent in the bottom of the shell. The firing dent has another name, but it is escaping me right now.

Also, depending on the propellent used in the potato gun, putting bullets it in and firing it could very well blow up the user, if it's something explosive and knowing service members, it's probably something explosive. (This is not a dig at service members, but all the of the men and women I know who serve like a good explosion, be it fireworks or what have you. It just comes with the territory.)

 

[hwat]

<Mod Snip> Why would he shoot someone with a potato gun when he has several real guns. The casings found in the car mean the bullets were shot by a normal gun. A potato gun would not eject casings. So that gun does exist and is missing.

 

[Mels3kidz]

Potato guns can shoot potatos through wooden walls you do not have to have metal objects to shoot.

Oh my. No rifling marks and the projectile will rot away.

Mel

 

[NaturalSelection]

I have a potato cannon that will shoot a potato so high you almost lose sight of it. That's a lot of force, but a person would have to be a complete idiot to try to use it to kill someone when a gun is available. It takes minutes to reload, doesn't always work, the shot would have to be perfect. I would expect he would simply strangle her if he didn't want to use and lose one of his guns.

 

[Plumeria5]

Okay, since I've made a number of potato cannons, let's put this to bed. They shoot potatoes, apples, oranges, etc. but not bullets. He didn't use that.

If you get hit by any one of the things on your list, can it kill you? Would it have to be at close range?

 

[rizzo0904]

So I found out from some military friends...you can have personal guns on base. If you live in the dorm style housing, they have to be kept in the armory. If you live in the type of housing CL and NL had, they can be in your home but they need to be registered. So unless he hid the gun (which would get him in a lot of trouble), there has to be record of him owning a 40

 

[Advocate4]

I have a potato cannon that will shoot a potato so high you almost lose sight of it. That's a lot of force, but a person would have to be a complete idiot to try to use it to kill someone when a gun is available. It takes minutes to reload, doesn't always work, the shot would have to be perfect. I would expect he would simply strangle her if he didn't want to use and lose one of his guns.

Will a potato gun shoot rocks? Here's the thing ... EC told her friend in TN that CL was taking her shooting (in JTNP). Suppose he was taking her to teach her how to shoot a potato gun, or just out for fun shooting a potato gun. Then it wouldn't matter how long it took to reload or whether it always worked, and "point blank range" would do for a perfect shot. She'd be watching him load it, how fast could he pull it up/point/shoot? If she was just knocked down by it and otherwise not seriously injured, he could always say it went off by accident as he was about to hand it to her. Surely he could hit her hard enough with a potato to knock her out ... and if those guns will shoot rocks, there you go.

 

[mikkismom]

To be fair, hwat, I'm not sure we should pick on people for not being quite as versed in vegetable mayhem as we are. Not everyone has a fascination with the wanton destruction of tubers and other foodstuffs. (I'm old school, myself, I prefer my vegetable mayhem to be done with medieval siege weapons&#8230; punkin chunkin ftw)

OT - We made a full-sized trebuchet - that was a fun summer. I have a 'small-caliber' mini-marshmallow gun.

jmo

 

[necco]

If you get hit by any one of the things on your list, can it kill you? Would it have to be at close range?

Potato guns CAN propel an item so fast they break the sound barrier. At that speed, with the right location, anything could kill. Even beanbag guns used for crowd control in places like Northern Ireland have resulted in fatalities, as have rubber bullets.

It wouldn't be a guarantee though, and they take long enough to reload that if you didn't kill with the first shot, your victim could be a mile away if they could run fast.

In other words, no one with 3 IQ points and access to anything else, even a tire iron, would plot a murder with a potato gun.


OT: Also, wow, there are a lot of people on here who like to engage in the wanton destruction of foodstuffs. Rock on, crazy friends, and be careful.

 

[Plumeria5]

Where was CL on Dec. 22, 2013, the date of the ball and chain post Mistress post?

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f273/mistress-1431391/#post14355810

 

[Knox]

See my theory. P5. I do think he used potato gun. That's what police missed when they searched 29 palms residence. My response to nursebeeme.

It should be easy to test the shell casings to determine if they were shot out of potato.

Are you saying your can put a .40cal bullet in a potato, load it in a potato gun and shoot someone?

 

[tvscum]

Oh Lord. It's all demonstrated here. If you own a gun, you would use that to kill somebody. Potato gun would not be your weapon of choice if you were a Marine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykF3TUTI2hU

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Regarding NL's Pinterest pages ~ The pins seem pretty normal to me. She focuses on her husband a lot, maintaining a long marriage, and ways to make relationships better. Also ways to handle, deal or survive people who are annoying, dishonest or disingenuous. Nothing alarming imo.

My eyes were tiring and just when I was about to leave the page, a pin caught my eye. It features a drawing of a man and woman in a boat putting something into a lake. The caption read something like, 'don't ask me what it is, just help me.' Then NL wrote, 'thought this was funny'.

Seeing the pin gave me head tilt (especially under the circumstances). Especially because I don't or wouldn't think the idea is funny at all, ever.

Another observation is NL announces her great relationship under pins by nodding to CL and their tight relationship, being best friends and such but, at the same time, some of her pins hint at her confusion or sadness. Probably almost everyone can relate to having ups and downs so, in and of themselves don't mean very much but, under the circumstances, noted. I see a woman who values her marriage but may have been sensing it slipping away. Yet, she was trying to find ways to pull CL toward her. Apart from the current circumstances of Erin being missing, (especially if it turns out NL is innocent of any involvement), my heart feels for any woman who is trying to make sense of betrayal and the pain associated with the experience.

Then, there is the boat "joke". :thinking:

 

[rizzo0904]

Oh Lord. It's all demonstrated here. If you own a gun, you would use that to kill somebody. Potato gun would not be your weapon of choice if you were a Marine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykF3TUTI2hU

Heck, he could use his bare hands.