GUILTY CA - Erin Corwin, 19, pregnant, Twentynine Palms, 28 June 2014 - #9

[77DarkHorse7]

LE has to be able prove pregnancy, Imo, before considering charges regarding a possible baby, fetus, or embryo. Jmo maybe even that she was pregnant at the time of death, i,e a doctor's report that states she was WAS pregnant two months ago may not be enough jmo.

Unless, let's hope, he's stupid enough to confirm that her being pregnant was his understanding in an interrogation or something. Hrm, probably already did that.

 

[77DarkHorse7]

Maybe he removed the rebar, threw Erin in the mine (I got a lump in my throat typing that), threw in tires in an effort to cover her and then replaced what rebar he could. Another thought is maybe that wasn't the first sealed mine that he unsealed, thus having additional rebar in his Jeep. Does anyone know if tires are typically thrown in to sealed mines for whatever reason? I went to those same mines a hundred years ago so I don't remember much about them other than they seemed very, very scary.

That gives me a thought. What if he dropped evidence at previously scouted mines. Maybe he found them unsuitable for hiding a body but still made use of them for other things? (cell phone, gun, purse, clothing, jewellery) They seem to be low on evidence proving he was the one who actually killed her, though they are long on that which shows he disposed of her after death. These items could go a long way to proving direct involvement, especially the gun.

 

[Seajay]

That video of the mine excursion was pretty creepy when they went inside some of those mines. It's so desolate out there, no one could have heard a gunshot, a scream for help, nothing. She was totally at his mercy and he had none for her. Poor Erin.

Wouldn't that be a bite in the butt if she wasn't pregnant after all? If she either thought she was but wasn't or she just said she was to force his hand before he got out of the Marines and headed back to Alaska.

We might find out if she were pregnant if they increase the charges to a second murder charge. I dunno.

 

[2Hope4]

Maria Lauterbach wasn't pregnant by the marine that thought she was pregnant by. He killed her, then had a BBQ over her buried body in a fire pit in his back yard.
Course once your murder someone, can't take it back. No do overs. No second chances.

Heard a quote about the main cause of a pregnant woman's death was murder. That's just a sad statement about society. What should be a happy time.

So instead of killing Erin, and her baby if she was pregnant, why didn't he keep his pecker in his marriage??? Yeah, that would have solved lots of problems. Now he's got BIG problems!! Hmmm pregnancy/child support versus murder charges.... yup moron!!

Erin's Mom should be out buying nursery items, instead of preparing for a funeral. So wrong in some many ways!!!

Why do these perps always think they are so smart, and will get away with murder? I guess they think of the ones that have gotten away with it, figure they can too. I don't know.

 

[77DarkHorse7]

So the article is inferring this MONSTER tied tires to her body and lit them on fire. I'm sure the details will emerge.
I am having a VERY hard time believing Mrs. L wasn't involved in this.....OPINION ONLY

If that's what happened then his stupidity is hilarious, enough to overcome the sorrow of the situation even if temporarily. He lights the tires on fire and throws them down after her, into a mineshaft who's oxygen level is already so poor it would take specialized equipment to clear the air to make it accessible to miners, were they to reactivate the mine. A burning tire would use up what's left in about eight seconds. HA HA .
:laughing:

 

[sophiebelle]

In the court video, he looks over at his family with a deer in the headlights look. Was that when "someone" tried to speak, or was he just looking? Also, did he say "Yeah" like a sullen teenager, when he was asked a question by the judge?

 

[rollinginit]

I've been trying to get caught up on all the Erin news.

As far as murder goes- Chris doesn't seem very smart at this. That's a good thing, but I still SMH and say to myself "Geez, I guess he never read a crime book or watched any crime movies"

I read that they were able to use his electronic equipment to figure out where he was at. Then I remember- oh right. The police took an ipod out of his vehicle. He probably keeps an ipod hooked up like I do for music. The thing about Apple products tho- they can and do track your every moment. Especially if you set up the device and turned "Location" on. I even have an app on mine that does GPS. The other day I was trying to figure out where I went last week for the address. I looked back in the history and it showed me.

I suspect that the events leading up to Erin's death were pretty brutal. So far, there is no evidence that supports Chris being very smart at killing- so that leads me to believe that he may have tried a few different methods to kill her. Maybe he shot her and she didn't die???

I don't believe his wife had anything to do with the murder. Nor do I think the ranch lady had anything to do with it. I do believe that both ladies didn't like Erin, tho. IMO. It's possible that maybe NL suspected or found out after the fact- then helped cover it up. I don't know.

I just find this all so tragic and senseless.

 

[smc1225]

I've been trying to get caught up on all the Erin news.

As far as murder goes- Chris doesn't seem very smart at this. That's a good thing, but I still SMH and say to myself "Geez, I guess he never read a crime book or watched any crime movies"

I read that they were able to use his electronic equipment to figure out where he was at. Then I remember- oh right. The police took an ipod out of his vehicle. He probably keeps an ipod hooked up like I do for music. The thing about Apple products tho- they can and do track your every moment. Especially if you set up the device and turned "Location" on. I even have an app on mine that does GPS. The other day I was trying to figure out where I went last week for the address. I looked back in the history and it showed me.

I suspect that the events leading up to Erin's death were pretty brutal. So far, there is no evidence that supports Chris being very smart at killing- so that leads me to believe that he may have tried a few different methods to kill her. Maybe he shot her and she didn't die???

I don't believe his wife had anything to do with the murder. Nor do I think the ranch lady had anything to do with it. I do believe that both ladies didn't like Erin, tho. IMO. It's possible that maybe NL suspected or found out after the fact- then helped cover it up. I don't know.

I just find this all so tragic and senseless.

LE removed the iPod Touch from a purse in the Green Honda (IM's vehicle) at the ranch. The car was being driven by CL though so it could his and NL just had it in her purse.

 

[rollinginit]

LE removed the iPod Touch from a purse in the Green Honda (IM's vehicle) at the ranch. The car was being driven by CL though so it could his and NL just had it in her purse.

That's right. Thanks.

Don't know if WS let links post to the Daily Mail in, but here is an article with some interviews from some of Erin's friends at the horse ranch. One of them is an ex US marshall.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2728658/Sheriff-Ex-Marine-inquired-body-disposal.html

 

[CarolinaMoon]

I always thought that a crime would need to occur on a military base/ship or involving military property for it to be tried in a military court but that is JMO.

I watch so many real crime programs that I can't remember the specific case. Just the other week there was one where the defendant had 3 hung juries. At that point, he was recalled to military duty and tried and convicted in a military court of the murder of his wife. I'm sure someone here has a better memory than my fibrofog allows me!

 

[jojo87]

I watch so many real crime programs that I can't remember the specific case. Just the other week there was one where the defendant had 3 hung juries. At that point, he was recalled to military duty and tried and convicted in a military court of the murder of his wife. I'm sure someone here has a better memory than my fibrofog allows me!

Is it Timothy Hennis

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2011/11/14/three-trials-for-murder

 

[BRRI]

poor baby looks like he has not been eating well in anticipation of being arrested and has lost weight---@@ eye roll @@

 

[CarolinaMoon]

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/honor-and-dishonor-the-trials-of-sgt-brent-burke/

This is the case I was looking for. Four mistrials, one military trial.

And I see it isn't as rare as we think!

 

[BRRI]

Perhaps tomorrow someone will do a search of "how to dispose of a body" plus "tire" on google and share results with us.

I actually was just thinking this. I doubt he is one to do lengthy research, so the first few pages is all he probably looked at. Could give an idea of what he was trying to achieve.

 

[rollinginit]

I actually was just thinking this. I doubt he is one to do lengthy research, so the first few pages is all he probably looked at. Could give an idea of what he was trying to achieve.

Here's what I got.

 

[Mrs. Gladden]

I watch so many real crime programs that I can't remember the specific case. Just the other week there was one where the defendant had 3 hung juries. At that point, he was recalled to military duty and tried and convicted in a military court of the murder of his wife. I'm sure someone here has a better memory than my fibrofog allows me!

Brent Burke

 

[Mrs. Gladden]

Does anybody else believe he will retract his statement that he was researching the disposal of a body? I definitely think it's a possibility, & I also think it's quite possible that his attorney will try to keep it out of court....if the case goes to trial.

I wonder when he admitted this to LE. Was it when he was in custody for the potato gun charges?

I know it doesn't really matter, but this 'enquiring mind' thinks this way.....analyze this, analyze that.

 

[eileenhawkeye]

I think the more likely you are to think you will get away with murder, the less likely that you will put much effort into the cover-up. It is stupidity but it also arrogance. I think these killers are used to always getting their way and people believing them.

 

[maskedwoman]

here is a hypothetical situation... (Or maybe not so hypothetical...)...

what if someone involved in a case... Maybe even just,peripherally...and not someone privy to LE's plans of the investigation... Chooses to go before the media and share information with the public that would put the investigation of LE in jeopardy... (For instance motivate a POI to flee... Or ???)...

wouldn't LE have an obligation to somehow diffuse the released information... And possibly to counteract it with untruths (I usually hate that word)... So that Justice can be served?

Just some thoughts...

I would think it's much easier to threaten to charge this person with obstruction or something. I would think having criminal charges hanging over ones head would shut most people up pretty darned fast.

 

[maskedwoman]

Here's bonus video of NL in Anchorage court eyeballing CL. Apparently, there is no restriction on videotaping spectators in court in Alaska. <snipped>

http://www.cbs8.com/story/26320600/sheriff-ex-marine-inquired-about-body-disposal

I thought she looked oddly calm, especially since she's been named a person of interest. I would expect a normal person to at least look tense under those circumstances.