GUILTY CA - Erin Corwin, 19, pregnant, Twentynine Palms, 28 June 2014 - #9

[Mrs. Gladden]

I'm thinking Lee sold her a bill of goods, made her think they were going to have a life together and raise their baby together. Why else would she think he'd be happy about the pregnancy that they'd go for a "special day together" and "celebrate her pregnancy?" Because if he had made it clear that he was going to stay with his wife and child with his wife, she would have realized he had nothing to celebrate.

I've thought this way all along. Instead of being distraught & crying because CL was leaving for Alaska with his family in a week, her last texts express happiness. If she had plans to stay with JC there would really be no reason to have that "day of celebration" with anyone but him (JC). To me, there really has been no other explanation.

 

[Mrs. Gladden]

Did you appointment go well? Dealing with things myself and was just wondering. Hope all went OK.

If you are asking me, YES, another clean report! Won't have to go through that again for another 6 months. I have now been cancer free for 2 1/2 years. They tell me the 5 year mark is what I'm working toward. Half way there!

Thanks for asking.....if it was directed to me! : )

Hate to hear about you!

 

[BRRI]

I'm really glad she's been found to give the family and friends some peace of mind but what an awful loss.
The sheriff said she was found in a very remote location that was very rocky & difficult to get to even with a 4 wheel drive. He took her there to dispose of her. It just makes me sick. Then LE said they traced the location of her body through cell phone records. He must have called someone from that area. Gees maybe he called his wife. By killing her he just traded one problem for another one, only this one is much worse and there won't be anything he can do about it.

Well, they said " through technology" they became focused on that area, I believe . I took the way they said it to possibly mean deleted computer or phone browsing history, rather than a cell ping. I'm not sure how else he would know to go there being that it was such rough terrain. Which brings up another point- that kind of disposal seems like it could be premeditated.

 

[Seajay]

I've thought this way all along. Instead of being distraught & crying because CL was leaving for Alaska with his family in a week, her last texts express happiness. If she had plans to stay with JC there would really be no reason to have that "day of celebration" with anyone but him (JC). To me, there really has been no other explanation.

He lied to her, he mislead her, he gave her a false sense of security with him, and then he murdered her. If he'd made it plain he wasn't leaving is wife, she would have stayed with her husband and tried to work on that. This guy is a coward, and a whole lot of adjectives and pronouns that I could get a time out for if I used them here.

She was so young, so naïve, so caught up in the manipulations of this guy. Jeez, I feel so sad for her. All her life, all her promise, all the good things to come to her in her life was stolen away by a coward that didn't have the gonads to take responsibility and face his consequences, but instead made her pay for them. :gaah:

 

[la2cabo]

If you are asking me, YES, another clean report! Won't have to go through that again for another 6 months. I have now been cancer free for 2 1/2 years. They tell me the 5 year mark is what I'm working toward. Half way there!

Thanks for asking.....if it was directed to me! : )

Hate to hear about you!

Not trying to hi-jack the thread but I go on Friday to see what's going on with my mammo test results. The doc's office called me to come in ASAP to "discuss results in person". Has me a little nervous. Mrs. Gladden, I actually was going to PM you this week if it's ok?

 

[Mrs. Gladden]

Not trying to hi-jack the thread but I go on Friday to see what's going on with my mammo test results. The doc's office called me to come in ASAP to "discuss results in person". Has me a little nervous. Mrs. Gladden, I actually was going to PM you this week if it's ok?

Yes, of course!

 

[SuperTmo]

I'm sad for Erin's family and friends who are suffering such a terrible loss. I'm grateful her family won't have to wonder anymore, and that it appears that justice is coming. Poor Erin. I hope she rests in peace. Its weird because I had a feeling something was going to happen in her case soon and was catching up in the middle of the night last night while tending a sick pet. I'm glad she was found. I just wish it hadn't ended like this.

 

[misplaced Texan]

Not trying to hi-jack the thread but I go on Friday to see what's going on with my mammo test results. The doc's office called me to come in ASAP to "discuss results in person". Has me a little nervous. Mrs. Gladden, I actually was going to PM you this week if it's ok?

Just went through that myself la2cabo and after a surgical biopsy, it was a benign fibroadenoma (that couldn't be detected through mammo, repeat mammo, and then ultrasound). Scary time though. :hug: I will be thinking of you and will say a prayer. I hope you will keep me posted too.

 

[Sulamith]

He lied to her, he mislead her, he gave her a false sense of security with him, and then he murdered her. If he'd made it plain he wasn't leaving is wife, she would have stayed with her husband and tried to work on that. This guy is a coward, and a whole lot of adjectives and pronouns that I could get a time out for if I used them here.

She was so young, so naïve, so caught up in the manipulations of this guy. Jeez, I feel so sad for her. All her life, all her promise, all the good things to come to her in her life was stolen away by a coward that didn't have the gonads to take responsibility and face his consequences, but instead made her pay for them. :gaah:

What did he lie to her about? How did he mislead her? I really do not see how he gave her a false sense of security. He was married and she knew it. She did not deserve to get killed however. I have been married 35 years and if I had an affair with a married man, no way, no how would I ever feel secure with him. How times have changed!

 

[Mrs. Gladden]

Well, they said " through technology" they became focused on that area, I believe . I took the way they said it to possibly mean deleted computer or phone browsing history, rather than a cell ping. I'm not sure how else he would know to go there being that it was such rough terrain. Which brings up another point- that kind of disposal seems like it could be premeditated.

You know, I found a link a couple of days ago that I could picture CL (because of his interest in Jeeps) looking at it. It was a 4X4 Off Road Run held back in 2008. They actually went to the area where Erin was located. It explained about the amount of air in the tires to use, etc....gave directions to the area.

When they said they found information "through technology" that's the first thing that came to mind.

 

[maskedwoman]

I'm still inclined to give IM the benefit of the doubt. Given what we now know (i.e. the police have been clearly planning for this discovery and arrest despite telling the public they had no proof EC wasn't voluntarily missing), I truly wonder if they advised IM to backtrack after the statement of probable cause came out--either for her own safety or to protect the investigation (and keep CL from running). She may have just been in over her head.

I can well imagine them suggesting she shut the heck up, but I can't imagine the police ever telling a witness to lie in public. It would make things quite difficult for the prosecutor. Can you just imagine the questions and the jurors eyes upon hearing that she was lying on purpose to protect the investigation?

 

[Seajay]

What did he lie to her about? How did he mislead her? I really do not see how he gave her a false sense of security. He was married and she knew it. She did not deserve to get killed however. I have been married 35 years and if I had an affair with a married man, no way, no how would I ever feel secure with him. How times have changed!

He had to have lied to her or she wouldn't have thought they would be celebrating her pregnancy where he really ended up killing her, he had to have led her to believe that he wanted the baby and wanted a life with her or she wouldn't have been so happy about it and gone with him to celebrate the pregnancy. He had to have given her a false sense of security with him or she wouldn't have gone with him to a remote place alone with him. She obvious felt she was safe with him or she wouldn't have gone anywhere with him. He sold her a line of bull a mile long. Why else would she think he'd be thrilled he got her pregnant when he's married to someone else he wanted to stay with??? Yet she text her friend that he was taking her out hunting and to have a "special day" together to "celebrate her pregnancy."

 

[Momoffourboys]

He had to have lied to her or she wouldn't have thought they would be celebrating her pregnancy where he really ended up killing her, he had to have led her to believe that he wanted the baby and wanted a life with her or she wouldn't have been so happy about it and gone with him to celebrate the pregnancy. He had to have given her a false sense of security with him or she wouldn't have gone with him to a remote place alone with him. She obvious felt she was safe with him or she wouldn't have gone anywhere with him. He sold her a line of bull a mile long. Why else would she think he'd be thrilled he got her pregnant when he's married to someone else he wanted to stay with??? Yet she text her friend that he was taking her out hunting and to have a "special day" together to "celebrate her pregnancy."

100%. All of it. Thank you.

 

[Fairy1]

What did he lie to her about? How did he mislead her? I really do not see how he gave her a false sense of security. He was married and she knew it. She did not deserve to get killed however. I have been married 35 years and if I had an affair with a married man, no way, no how would I ever feel secure with him. How times have changed!

Erin told her friend in TN she was going to "celebrate" her pregnancy with CL. That indicates, to me, she believed he would be happy about it. Why would she believe that?

 

[maskedwoman]

Oh yeh, NOW the Alaska news media is interested in doing a story on this case. Several sleuthers here tried in vain to get them to do a story there and turn up the heat on the Lee's in Alaska.

Oh yes, they are interested now. I saw where the story was going to be on their evening news tonight, too.

 

[cluciano63]

I think Erin wanted to clarify the relationship with CL before her parents arrived, so she could tell them she was leaving JC...I think that is why she had not yet told them about being pregnant.

 

[TigerLilly]

Authorities have also said that Lee's wife, Nichole Lee, is a "person of interest" in the death.
http://www.desertsun.com/story/news/crime_courts/2014/08/18/erin-corwin-san-bernardino/14232723/


Arrest in 3, 2, .....

I sure hope so!! I dont believe she wasnt involved ..at the very least in the clean up. JMO

 

[Kensie]

I really hope that young women think twice before getting involved with a married man. Erin and Heather E. Lost their lives because of extra-marital affairs. So very sad. Emotions run wild .

 

[maskedwoman]

I'm wondering how difficult it may be to determine much about the pregnancy given the time that has elapsed since her death? Especially with not being far along.

I asked myself that same question earlier. But since they didn't come right out and say it wouldn't be likely, there must be a pretty good chance of them being able to tell.

 

[Knox]

That is what I thought. I thought a fetus had to be viable in order for it to be counted as a murder of a person.

Just using your post as a jumping off point Sulamith, not calling out your POV.

IMO, Erin's child was "viable" at conception.

Considering the child was (IMO) the motive for Erin's murder, I would be very surprised if Ramos does not include a count of murder.