GUILTY CA - Erin Corwin, 19, pregnant, Twentynine Palms, 28 June 2014 - #9

[Fairy1]

We have no idea how Erin's marriage was. I recall - weeks ago - on a message board - her sister saying Erin told her that if she ever went missing to give her some time to "get away" - or something to that effect. Why would she have said that? IMO, we'll never know the state of their marriage. JC will forever be known as a "wronged man."

 

[Kensie]

In most relationships , I think people need a break for at least a day or so. I could be wrong.

 

[nikb]

Wow, I was away for a day and came back to see all of this.

:rose: :rose: :rose:

Rest in Peace Erin.

I know that her not being alive is the outcome most of us both expected but feared. My next big fear was that she would never be found and her family would never know, so I'm glad that at least she was found. Also glad there's been an arrest already. I know it feels like forever, but based on other cases I've followed this really is lightning fast.

I wish somehow JC could get in touch with Whitney Heichel's husband... similar ages, wives murdered suddenly and shockingly by a neighbor they thought was a friend... I bet they could support each other at least a little bit.

 

[StacyMarie83]

Ex-Marine Christopher Lee was arrested Sunday night in the killing of Erin Corwin, a missing Marine wife who was found crumpled at the bottom of a 140-foot mineshaft in a remote area of the High Desert.

Authorities have also said that Lee's wife, Nichole Lee, is a "person of interest" in the death.

http://www.desertsun.com/story/news/crime_courts/2014/08/18/erin-corwin-san-bernardino/14232723/

O/T ^^^that's how you write a fantastic article.

 

[BatWoman]

A thank you to the cell phone company and its employees who did the work and incurred the expense of triangulating the cell phone signals that led to her being found.This is one month I will not mind paying my cell phone bill.Also with most phones today you do not have to make a call for the company to be able to track the phone.

Not just a phone company... I found out that Google has been tracking where I've been all year and I could look it all up on a map. Now I'm going to have to go for drives around the area so i can draw pictures for google. ;-)

http://junkee.com/google-maps-has-b...website-to-prove-it/39639#rA9pCiYDhxDEAhCo.01

 

[Fairy1]

Wow, I was away for a day and came back to see all of this.

:rose: :rose: :rose:

Rest in Peace Erin.

I know that her not being alive is the outcome most of us both expected but feared. My next big fear was that she would never be found and her family would never know, so I'm glad that at least she was found. Also glad there's been an arrest already. I know it feels like forever, but based on other cases I've followed this really is lightning fast.

I wish somehow JC could get in touch with Whitney Heichel's husband... similar ages, wives murdered suddenly and shockingly by a neighbor they thought was a friend... I bet they could support each other at least a little bit.

This is much different than Whitney's case.

 

[justonedrin]

Glad they found her, sad it had to happen this way, glad the person responsible is in custody. hope anyone else involved will be also shortly, and peace to all her loved ones.

wish this team could head to Myrtle Beach SC and find Heather Elvis



that is all

 

[katydid23]

I should hope we're not going to blame the victim here. Erin was 19. I would rather not be judged about anything I did when I was 19! She had moved away from her all people to a desolate place and suffered a miscarriage. I'm going to go ahead and cut her a little slack. Particularly knowing she was found at the bottom of a 140 foot mine shaft after going on what she believed was a celebratory hunting trip with someone she obviously thought cared about her.

I don't think Kensie was blaming her. She is just being a nurturing soul, and giving extremely important motherly advice. I got involved with my married boss when I was 20. Thank goodness my cousin told me MOM, who promptly set me straight. And as embarrassed and upset as I was, she was RIGHT. I didn't listen at first but quickly realized she was telling me the truth, as her predictions became to come true.

I have had the same convo with my 22 yr old daughter. I am not blaming or shaming, just WARNING her. And I have used this exact case as an example.My daughter and her boyfriend love to drive out to Joshua Tree so she was very interested when I told her about poor Erin. :rose:

eta- her NON-married boyfriend, just for clarification,,lol

 

[phantomthought]

I admit, I am anxious to know if she was pregnant.
The whole situation was so confusing, i.e who could know when, etc
She apparently told CL, but not her mom? I don't think she would have held back if she knew for sure she was pregnant by JC. She wanted to clarify her position with CL. Very naive and also very sad that she believed he wanted a baby with her. I still wonder if she told JC or he found out on his own.

I'll vote for that.I do not understand if she was trying to be with CL why be so quick to tell your husband your pregnant and if you were going stay with your husband why be so quick to tell CL.While it is possible JC found out on his own I would think given her situation she would try to make sure that did not happen.Not bothered to admit when it comes to this part of the case I am lost.

 

[Twistinginthewind]

I think Erin wanted to clarify the relationship with CL before her parents arrived, so she could tell them she was leaving JC...I think that is why she had not yet told them about being pregnant.

yes... she definitely wasn't expecting what happened to her... really. no person would think she was in danger because her paramour was asking to go celebrate a new pregnancy

 

[Fairy1]

I don't think Kensie was blaming her. She is just being a nurturing soul, and giving extremely important motherly advice. I got involved with my married boss when I was 20. Thank goodness my cousin told me MOM, who promptly set me straight. And as embarrassed and upset as I was, she was RIGHT. I didn't listen at first but quickly realized she was telling me the truth, as her predictions became to come true.

I have had the same convo with my 22 yr old daughter. I am not blaming or shaming, just WARNING her. And I have used this exact case as an example.My daughter and her boyfriend love to drive out to Joshua Tree so she was very interested when I told her about poor Erin. :rose:

eta- her NON-married boyfriend, just for clarification,,lol

I get that - but it's too late for Erin to be warned. So now we have what we have here.

 

[klily444]

First time hearing from CL's father:

"Let's just wait until the facts come out before jumping to conclusions," Bob Lee, Christopher's father, told an Associated Press reporter during a brief interview outside the family's home in a working class neighborhood in Anchorage. He said the arrest came as his son and daughter-in-law, Nichole Lee, were returning home."


http://www.mariettatimes.com/page/c...wife-found-in-mine-shaft.html?isap=1&nav=5020

 

[nikb]

This is much different than Whitney's case.

In a lot of ways yes, but I was thinking of their ages and the fact that it was a neighbor they thought was a friend (at least at one point). That's all I was thinking about in common between the two.

 

[phantomthought]

First time hearing from CL's father:

"Let's just wait until the facts come out before jumping to conclusions," Bob Lee, Christopher's father, told an Associated Press reporter during a brief interview outside the family's home in a working class neighborhood in Anchorage. He said the arrest came as his son and daughter-in-law, Nichole Lee, were returning home.


http://www.mariettatimes.com/page/c...wife-found-in-mine-shaft.html?isap=1&nav=5020

Another victim

 

[cluciano63]

If JC was at the gathering the previous night, it would be my guess that he did not know about any on-going affair. This confuses me even more,i.e if he had found out Erin was pregnant by mistake, you wouldn't expect him to be partying with CL, although if he even knew she once had a affair, I am surprised he would socialize with him at all. This all seems really complicated...who knew what when.

 

[cluciano63]

In a lot of ways yes, but I was thinking of their ages and the fact that it was a neighbor they thought was a friend (at least at one point). That's all I was thinking about in common between the two.

Seems almost identical to Heather Elvis' case.

 

[nikb]

Seems almost identical to Heather Elvis' case.

I haven't followed hers... I'll have to read up on it. It makes me sad there's even one case like this out there, nevermind that there are multiple cases people are thinking of. So sad.

 

[MsFacetious]

I always thought that viable meant that the fetus would have been mature enough to survive outside of the womb. What the bleep do I know?

You are correct.
When referring to "viability" that means the baby has a chance to survive if born now. :twocents:
Viability is put at sometime after 23 weeks generally, depending on who you ask.

A baby born in the 1st trimester is not viable and will not survive. Period.
So in many states that would not be considered murder. :twocents:

 

[Woe.be.gone]

So glad I checked on cases tonight - I almost didn't. Last night I checked and felt down that progress hadn't been made and my final thought was don't give up hope! Surely didn't expect results today.

More lessons learned for me following recent cases. Here's what I think - LE allows leaks when they're sure they have a solid lead and singular focus (versus several possible theories with no real evidence pointing in one direction). In Erin's case, LE felt it important to relieve the strongest suspicion surrounding the husband. In Heather Elvis case, LE was on the tail of the Moorer couple and knew an arrest was imminent (body not found yet).

When LE speaks out strongly, as they did in this case about finding Erin's body no matter how long it takes them, they mean business (and have reason to believe they will/can)! Congratulations and thanks to all of the search teams and LE for a job well done - really impressive work. Also I appreciate LE letting us know a few other insights (like technology input) and feel this particular LE wants to share what they can when they can. Before they didn't want the perp/s to know what evidence they had to go on to find Erin's body (prior computer searches of mine areas).

Reminded again that husbands aren't always guilty (even when they act out and/or are quiet). In this case, I'm really glad the husband isn't guilty. Yet I do feel very bad for the innocent child whose life is forever altered because of what her father has done. The reasoning makes no sense for why someone (who is having an affair with the person they're about to kill) thinks they'll get away with murder. There is nothing happy about any of this except that someone isn't getting away with murder. What a waste of young life on so many levels.

 

[Hippiemomof5]

If JC was at the gathering the previous night, it would be my guess that he did not know about any on-going affair. This confuses me even more,i.e if he had found out Erin was pregnant by mistake, you wouldn't expect him to be partying with CL, although if he even knew she once had a affair, I am surprised he would socialize with him at all. This all seems really complicated...who knew what when.

I've been very confused about this part of this story and maybe someone can fill in a missing piece for me. When JC found out E was pregnant, didn't he just assume it was his? And wouldn't she just play along with that, not wanting to out her affair?