GUILTY CA - Isidro Medrano Garcia for kidnapping, rape of 15yo girl, Santa Ana, 2004

[jjenny]

It doesn't appear to be the same person at the unnamed female in this thread. And furthermore that person was found back in 2004.

 

[LietKynes]

http://articles.latimes.com/2004/aug...-ocbriefs4.2??
This link was taken down or removed by the website... I think.
It was a small article about the then 15 yr.-old who was abducted.

I did notice this article. Seems like there are different versions of what happened, but that is the opinion of the alleged perp's defense lawyer ; so take with a grain of salt.
www.latimes.com/local/crime/la-me-girl-abducted-20140523-story.html

 

[time]

RSBM



http://articles.latimes.com/2004/aug...-ocbriefs4.2??
SBM from zwiebel

Sometimes my links don't work. In which case I hope a mod will correct the error.... :blushing:

Yep. Worked the first time I clicked it, now it's gone . Maybe too many people were trying to access it ? Wish I'd copied and pasted. It was from the first time she went missing.

No, the actual link is still there, but the above link is incomplete - that's why it doesn't work. This is the complete link

http://articles.latimes.com/2004/aug/04/local/me-ocbriefs4.2

 

[jjenny]

No, the actual link is still there, but the above link is incomplete - that's why it doesn't work. This is the complete link

http://articles.latimes.com/2004/aug/04/local/me-ocbriefs4.2

I still don't understand what is this link about?
This appears to be unrelated case since that girl was found back in 2004?

 

[time]

I still don't understand what is this link about?
This appears to be unrelated case since that girl was found back in 2004?

It is NOT related to this case, you're correct. I was trying to point that out in my first post about it. I haven't found any missing persons article or report about this case either.

 

[time]

Getting back on target...

The narrative that unfolded around the couple this week in a Los Angeles suburb spans a decade, but the criminal case against Garcia centers on a three-month period when he is accused of grooming the teen through sexual abuse and taking her from her Santa Ana home.

Authorities focused on the early allegations of abuse because they occurred in the county and are not subject to a statute of limitations, according to Whitney Bokosky, deputy district attorney for Orange County. She said the charges may be amended or expanded as the case moves forward.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/23/isidro-garcia-kidnapper-rapist_n_5378214.html

Some other interesting perspectives on prosecuting a case like this also in the article.

 

[mysteriew]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/05/2...woman-mother-recently-persuaded-her-to-go-to/

Very good article. The woman and her mother met on Mother's Day then the woman went to visit her the following weekend.

So many of the things the neighbors claim, seem to have been true but they are very recent.

 

[zwiebel]

It is interesting that Garcia seems to have given three different stories to three different neighbors about the reunion with victim's mom:

Mom had just arrived on a visit from Mexico and was causing problems in the marriage
Mom lived in Santa Ana
I've forgotten the third one now, and can't reread all those links. Something about a truck.

Anyway, if this was all just a perfectly normal marriage as his defence attorney says, it makes me wonder why Garcia would be giving his neighbors misleading stories about his MIL living in Mexico?

Perhaps they are all mistaken. I've no doubt we'll see when the OC DA calls them as witnesses.

 

[Tugela]

Getting back on target...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/23/isidro-garcia-kidnapper-rapist_n_5378214.html

Some other interesting perspectives on prosecuting a case like this also in the article.

Interesting....according to that article she did not go to police to complain about being abducted, she went to complain about domestic abuse. They were the ones who connected her to a missing persons report, she did not do that.

And since she was there to make a complaint about him, she was not intimidated by him. So why would she have not claimed all the rest as well at the same time? It would appear that the claims of being abducted came only after she had to explain why she left with him.

 

[Tugela]

It is interesting that Garcia seems to have given three different stories to three different neighbors about the reunion with victim's mom:

Mom had just arrived on a visit from Mexico and was causing problems in the marriage
Mom lived in Santa Ana
I've forgotten the third one now, and can't reread all those links. Something about a truck.

Anyway, if this was all just a perfectly normal marriage as his defence attorney says, it makes me wonder why Garcia would be giving his neighbors misleading stories about his MIL living in Mexico?

Perhaps they are all mistaken. I've no doubt we'll see when the OC DA calls them as witnesses.

Probably because in their community the neighbors were used to having close extended family ties, so the question of where the rest of the family was would have come up, and an explanation for their absence was needed. He could hardly tell them that he used to live with the mother, but ran off with the daughter. I'm guessing that would not go down well among the neighbors.

 

[cocomod]

Interesting....according to that article she did not go to police to complain about being abducted, she went to complain about domestic abuse. They were the ones who connected her to a missing persons report, she did not do that.

And since she was there to make a complaint about him, she was not intimidated by him. So why would she have not claimed all the rest as well at the same time? It would appear that the claims of being abducted came only after she had to explain why she left with him.

Possibly because she had lived with him for so long; he had likely brainwashed her into believing that they met and married for love.

 

[0101ABA]

Lawyers spar over whether girl was abducted or fled with man

A prosecutor said on Thursday that a California man was eying his girlfriend's 15-year-old daughter before he helped bring the girl up from Mexico, raped her, abducted her from the family's home and forced her to live with him under a false name for a decade.

But a lawyer for now-42-year-old Isidro Garcia told jurors that his client was a hard-working janitor and machine operator who adored the girl he later made his wife and the mother of his child, and that she left her family's troubled Orange County home willingly with him as a teen.

Jurors heard two radically different accounts of the same sequence of events in opening statements of Garcia's trial on charges of rape, kidnapping and lewd acts on a child dating back to 2004. With the kidnapping charge carrying a potential life sentence, the lawyers focused largely on whether the girl was snatched or ran away with Garcia.

(...)

Testimony will begin on Tuesday. The woman and her relatives are expected to testify, along with neighbors who knew the couple over the years.
Bokosky has also asked to call as a witness Elizabeth Smart (...)

Bank said he did not know yet whether Garcia would take the stand.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/311d...trial-charged-abducting-teen-he-later-married

 

[borndem]

From WRAL News, Raleigh, NC:

National News

Woman describes rape she said preceded 10-year abduction

Posted 11:33 p.m. Wednesday
Updated 11:36 p.m. Wednesday


By AMY TAXIN, Associated Press
FULLERTON, Calif. — A woman testified Wednesday that a man told her not to yell when he first raped her when she was still a girl, an assault that came before a 10-year abduction during which she had to marry the man and have his child.

Read more at http://www.wral.com/mom-testifies-a...as-keeping-girl/15379550/#S05qeuiRWEX7xtlr.99

 

[bostonstrong]

this is a very disturbing thread. seriously do we not believe victims anymore?

i guess coleen stan was lying cause not only did she not report it after the wife let her go, it was the wife who turned him in.
i guess jaycee's lying cause she wasnt locked up in the shed for the whole 18 years.
i guess elizabeths lying cause her sister couldnt remember if it was a knife or gun and cause eliabeth lied to the police at first.
i guess the cleveland 3 were lying about being chained and raped for a decade just cause none of them tried to escape till the last day.

jeesh.

if you put the pieces of the puzzle together it would seem she contacted her family on facebook and till that time never believed they were looking for her. it would seem it was they who got thru to her, very slowly.

'doting husband' here never said he was filing for divorce until AFTER she presssed charges on him. so it was he who made up the cover story to protect himself not the other way around.

 

[0101ABA]

FULLERTON, Calif. -- A jury on Friday found a California man guilty of committing lewd acts on a 15-year-old girl who later married him, had his child and stayed with him for a decade after she disappeared from her mother's California home.

Jurors reached their verdict in the case against 42-year-old Isidro Garcia. He was found not guilty of kidnapping to commit a sex crime, and the jury deadlocked on a charge of rape.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/man-convicted-of-lewd-acts-on-child-he-later-married/

 

[pappa rob]

#@&*&#? What's the matter with some peoples?

 

[Ontario Mom]

I never heard about this case in 2014 but I'm truly stunned at not only the public's reaction but that this pig wasn't found guilty of kidnapping for sexual purposes. SHE WAS A 15 YEAR OLD GIRL. Even if she DID go with him willingly, it was because he manipulated her, the way abusive predators always do.

It really makes me sad for this young woman that she wasn't believed.

 

[borndem]

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/man-convicted-of-lewd-acts-on-child-he-later-married/

:gaah: .. :steamed: .. :rage: