CA - Joey, Summer, Gianni, Joseph Jr McStay Murders - Feb 4th 2010 #11

[Mony Mony]

Since the above quote assumes Chase did commit the murders: then Joey's brother and mother must have been his accomplice helping buying time for him by keeping delaying visiting the house and doing clean up before police arrived.

Double standard shouldn't be applied.

Well the two timed felon did inform Susan Blake that it appeared someone had moved the dog bowls and that someone may be taking care of the dogs.

 

[MrsPC]

hearing Friday for attorneys only and then jurors will be back on Tuesday

 

[katydid23]

as the judge was listing a very detailed account of all of the evidence against him, Chase was slowly shaking his head some of the time. And at the very end, when Chase turned around frowning, looking at his attorney, his face was beet red. I think his blood pressure spiked...

 

[katydid23]

Everyone here should make it a point to listen to the judges list of evidence, which I think begins at about 1hr and 5 minutes, into the youtube. [ my video on LandC was about 1hr and 5 when he began his list, i believe.]

It is very detailed and vital information. I was very surprised. I hope the jury has been taking good notes...

 

[asyousay]

Everyone here should make it a point to listen to the judges list of evidence, which I think begins at about 1hr and 5 minutes, into the youtube. [ my video on LandC was about 1hr and 5 when he began his list, i believe.]

It is very detailed and vital information. I was very surprised. I hope the jury has been taking good notes...

I would love to but the feed was so awful I have given up. It was the worse it ever has been for me today. Constant buffering and reloading didn’t help.

 

[MrsPC]

Everyone here should make it a point to listen to the judges list of evidence, which I think begins at about 1hr and 5 minutes, into the youtube. [ my video on LandC was about 1hr and 5 when he began his list, i believe.]

It is very detailed and vital information. I was very surprised. I hope the jury has been taking good notes...

and even the Judge stated it wasn't "all" the evidence...just the main factors and that there is even more evidence the Prosecution presented.

 

[katydid23]

I would love to but the feed was so awful I have given up. It was the worse it ever has been for me today. Constant buffering and reloading didn’t help.

Watch the youtube when it is up. It is worth the effort.

 

[smr]

How can you say that about a mother and grandmother of the two babies who were murdered? It's really disgusting, imo.

Did you find any fault in the reasoning?

 

[Tortoise]

I'm surprised he turned down the chance of a few hours out of his cell to attend court on Friday. His chances of viewing normal life and the outside world must be down to double digits now. Mind you I suppose he will have appeals.

JMO

 

[Recidivist]

Did you find any fault in the reasoning?

Yes.

 

[katydid23]

Did you find any fault in the reasoning?

Yes. CM was in contact by phone with Joey dozens of times a day. His brother spoke to him less often than that. They were not really that close, in terms of day to day communications.

And in the past, Joey was known to takeoff on spontaneous trips, without telling extended family.

So it makes sense that MM wouldn't feel the need to call 911 at the time. JMO

 

[Funky funky]

Everyone here should make it a point to listen to the judges list of evidence, which I think begins at about 1hr and 5 minutes, into the youtube. [ my video on LandC was about 1hr and 5 when he began his list, i believe.]

It is very detailed and vital information. I was very surprised. I hope the jury has been taking good notes...

Could someone post a link when available please?! On UK time and almost zzzzzz

 

[citygirl]

If Chase murdered the family, why did he alert Joey's brother and insist that he go and check on the family before anyone else raises the alarm? Even the brother wasn't the least concerned and said they may be taking a vacation.

Good point. But now that I have heard all the testimony I understand. And his interview with CNN could very well be part of his demise.

 

[smr]

Yes.

Mission accomplished. So why the complaint?

 

[Longtimenoc]

If Chase murdered the family, why did he alert Joey's brother and insist that he go and check on the family before anyone else raises the alarm? Even the brother wasn't the least concerned and said they may be taking a vacation.

How could any person imagine such a horrible thing? Seriously. How could Mike, Susan or Pat imagine such horror. Come on now.

Merritt of course is going to be a good buddy and act all interested and concerned. It worked until the chance unearthing of the desert graves. If not for that Mr Chase would still be making appearances and touting his book.

 

[katydid23]

Mission accomplished. So why the complaint?

I am sorry, I don't understand. Why what complaint?

 

[Texas Red]

I believe the last two months the prosecution definitely provided a prima facie—a sufficient case for a conviction. If the evidence against Charles Merritt isn't sufficient for a conviction, then most of the trials in this country wouldn't have enough evidence sufficient for a conviction. Seriously, think of all the cases being tried where the evidence isn't as good as this. No-body cases for example, no weapon cases, no eye-witness cases, no ear-witness cases.

I've also thought that people who don't find the evidence against Charles Merritt prima facie, then they must be expecting a 1080p video of Charles bashing each one of the McStay's heads in or a trustworthy eye-witness to the murders who has never told a lie. I rarely see any trials with that kind of direct evidence. Most trials in this country are based on circumstantial evidence—part of the law. The prosecution doesn't have to prove Charles guilty for absolute certainty. The jurors can have some doubt.

Definitely a prima facie case, IMO.

Those who are not guilty swayed, please weigh-in. What kind of evidence would you have wanted to see to be able to convict Charles Merritt?

"Seriously, think of all the cases being tried where the evidence isn't as good as this."
Example please.

 

[MichaelCorleone]

Watch the youtube when it is up. It is worth the effort.

Considering the YouTube from last Thursday isn’t up yet, it might be a week from now before we get today’s. I’d like to hear what the judge had to say. When it was occurring I could only hear every 5th word.

 

[citygirl]

For some, Chase Merritt can turn water into wine. Imagine that.

No. Can't believe I am saying this but I think he is toast.

 

[Texas Red]

You are ignoring the context here. They added a Faro scan and the witness they put up was criticized heavily by the defense, who argued that he was not qualified.

So because they wanted to keep the Faro scan in the evidence submission , they chose a new witness to testify about it. There is noting unethical or illegal about doing so.

Are you going to say the same thing if the defense changes any of their witnesses?

The judge determined the first Faro witness was not qualified that's not the defense's problem. IMO that should have been the end of it no witness, no Faro testimony. Concerning the defense doing the same as the prosecution did IMO that would also be a violation of the discovery rules.