CA - Joey, Summer, Gianni, Joseph Jr McStay Murders - Feb 4th 2010 #13

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  • #701
I worry that the defense's case won't be absorbed by the jury. That said, who knows what SB was asked today, or how she answered. This case has never been simple and continues to be a puzzle.
I'm a little worried too now! It's simply not good enough!!!!
 
  • #702
Cathy Russon‏ @cathyrusson 25s26 seconds ago
#McStay - Defense called Susan Blake to the stand today. She is the mother of Joseph McStay. She testified on day 2 of the state's case. Court was only in session for 2 hours today and Blake was the only witness.....2 hours.
I wonder if they asked her about the table, plus other stuff of course, because that wouldn't have taken 2 hours.

In the jailhouse tape Cathy mentions that she's been told the family still has the table.
 
  • #703
I'm a little worried too now! It's simply not good enough!!!!

I don't understand why more testimony isn't being brought forward. Scheduling conflicts? Or something else. It's odd.
 
  • #704
Oh. OK. I have to go listen again. Do you mean the first interview with San Diego? Or do you mean the conversation he had with CJ from jail?

With CJ.
 
  • #705
No that was a different part of the tape. This is about the 8.28 call.

This is what he says -

I came back down to the house, laid my phone on the counter, phone rang and you saw it, obviously, I didn’t, I never remembered that phone call, ever, I still don’t to this day.

But immediately following that doesn't he talk about why would he even be there, there's nothing out there?
 
  • #706
It’s shocking that there is no coverage for this trial and that we are having to now rely on tweets, total disservice to the Mcstay family. IMO
 
  • #707

OK. I'll go back and listen again. It seemed like CM was worried that CJ's memory wasn't much better than his, but that conversation was confusing.
 
  • #708
But immediately following that doesn't he talk about why would he even be there, there's nothing out there?

Do you mean, why he would be at home or in the club house?
 
  • #709
It’s shocking that there is no coverage for this trial and that we are having to now rely on tweets, total disservice to the Mcstay family. IMO

Victims do get left out, sometimes. That is unfair. And I think it sometimes is a deterrent in solving what happened to them.
 
  • #710
Well, with only two hours of testimony, we won't be up all night listening to the audio (unless they don't post it until midnight!).
 
  • #711
But immediately following that doesn't he talk about why would he even be there, there's nothing out there?
That's not the 8.28 call though, which is what he said he never remembered.

He does go on to talk about his phone being on towers going north on the 15 freeway at the 9.32 call after that part I posted, but that's not where he says he never remembered that call.
 
  • #712
Do you mean, why he would be at home or in the club house?

No, why would he be in the location where the 9:32 call pinged from (he says something about Ventura but I can't remember what he says about that specifically).
 
  • #713
It’s shocking that there is no coverage for this trial and that we are having to now rely on tweets, total disservice to the Mcstay family. IMO
We can't even rely on the tweets--

Completely agree..absolutely shocking the way this trial is progressing. I cannot believe it!!! :(
 
  • #714
That's not the 8.28 call though, which is what he said he never remembered.

He does go on to talk about his phone being on towers going north on the 15 freeway at the 9.32 call after that part I posted, but that's not where he says he never remembered that call.

I'd have to listen to it again, maybe my memory sprang a leak.
 
  • #715
I'd have to listen to it again, maybe my memory sprang a leak.

This is the part you are thinking of -

Chase: I’m trying. Um the DA’s premise is that I left that evening at 5.48, went into Bonsall and came back, at 9.32 I made a call from they say the 15 freeway going north, but my phone hit two towers near the 60 freeway but definitively show, you know, if, if the towers are correct, I’m going east on Van Buren, not even on the 60.

Cathy: That night?

Chase: Yeah. What would I be doing on Van Buren Boulevard, at 9.32 at night? There’s nothing over there. There’s the 60, Van Buren runs parallel [inaudible].

Cathy: Is that in Riverside?

Chase: It goes to Riverside. At 9.30 at night I wouldn’t be going out there.
 
  • #716
No, why would he be in the location where the 9:32 call pinged from (he says something about Ventura but I can't remember what he says about that specifically).

Well, he might not have been in Ventura. I thought that there were a couple of towers he pinged at that time. But I think I get what you are saying. If he'd been home, and in the club house, why at 9:32 would he ping a tower that distance from his home?

He may have been headed to gamble at that time. Those towers were in a place where investigators speculated Chase was returning from murdering the McStays, but he could also have been headed to the casino near Temecula.
 
  • #717
BBM I believe the DT is trying to establish that with the expert testimony and physical records. No one knew on Feb. 4, 2010, the significance of that call. jmho

As to the bolded, SOMEONE did know the significance of that call.

Specifically the somebody who backdated forged checks TO THAT SAME DATE. In my opinion anyway.
 
  • #718
I'd have to listen to it again, maybe my memory sprang a leak.

I think I get what you mean. I have to listen to all that testimony again.
 
  • #719
This is the part you are thinking of -

Chase: I’m trying. Um the DA’s premise is that I left that evening at 5.48, went into Bonsall and came back, at 9.32 I made a call from they say the 15 freeway going north, but my phone hit two towers near the 60 freeway but definitively show, you know, if, if the towers are correct, I’m going east on Van Buren, not even on the 60.

Cathy: That night?

Chase: Yeah. What would I be doing on Van Buren Boulevard, at 9.32 at night? There’s nothing over there. There’s the 60, Van Buren runs parallel [inaudible].

Cathy: Is that in Riverside?

Chase: It goes to Riverside. At 9.30 at night I wouldn’t be going out there.

Yes, that's exactly what I'm remembering, thanks.
 
  • #720
Well, he might not have been in Ventura. I thought that there were a couple of towers he pinged at that time. But I think I get what you are saying. If he'd been home, and in the club house, why at 9:32 would he ping a tower that distance from his home?

He may have been headed to gamble at that time. Those towers were in a place where investigators speculated Chase was returning from murdering the McStays, but he could also have been headed to the casino near Temecula.

There is a big Indian Casino just past Ventura, right outside Santa Barbara. Chumash Casino.
 
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