CA - Joey, Summer, Gianni, Joseph Jr McStay Murders - Feb 4th 2010 #19

[oceanblueeyes]

I listened again to Dr. Rudin's testimony. He made it clear that even though the wheel base measurement was off, it was within the margin of error. He corrected McGee when McGee said is was off/exculpatory and Rudin said it was within the margin of error.

IMO MOO

Imo, It's going to bite Rudin if he now reverses course. You can bet the state has a full transcript of everything he told them. If he comes across as wishy washy the jury will just throw out his testimony, and will disregard all of it as garbage in.....garbage out.

IMO

 

[oceanblueeyes]

***Attention - defense distraction alert - defense distraction alert - defense distraction alert***

Photo comparison

1. McStay Dodge front lights
2. File photo showing Dodge front lights illuminated
3. Mitchley video front lights

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Tortoise, do you have the link handy showing the tie down straps found in the grave? TIA

BTW no way is the Dodge truck the one seen leaving the McStay home.

IMO

 

[Mony Mony]

Imo, It's going to bite Rudin if he now reverses course. You can bet the state has a full transcript of everything he told them. If he comes across as wishy washy the jury will just throw out his testimony, and will disregard all of it as garbage in.....garbage out.

IMO

IMO, after listening again to Rudin, the defense is going to try and twist his calculations to show they are exculpatory. IMO, this is gonna bite the defense in the hiney.

In the words of Maline, "Good luck, but it is not gonna work".

 

[Tortoise]

Tortoise, do you have the link handy showing the tie down straps found in the grave? TIA

BTW no way is the Dodge truck the one seen leaving the McStay home.

IMO

52.08 and 53.19 time markers in today's video

 

[Tortoise]

Maline to Bachman "this particular Dodge truck does not have running lights underneath the headlights, correct?"

55.40 timestamp in today's video posted above.

 

[mrjitty]

Maline to Bachman "this particular Dodge truck does not have running lights underneath the headlights, correct?"

55.40 timestamp in today's video posted above.

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Maline is such liar - its really disgraceful for an officer of the court

 

[oceanblueeyes]

IMO, after listening again to Rudin, the defense is going to try and twist his calculations to show they are exculpatory. IMO, this is gonna bite the defense in the hiney.

In the words of Maline, "Good luck, but it is not gonna work".

To do that though doesn't Maline have to get him to admit his own calculations were wrong?

If so, "In the words of Maline, "Good luck, but it is not gonna work." LOL!

JMO

 

[Edmo]

Tortoise, do you have the link handy showing the tie down straps found in the grave? TIA

BTW no way is the Dodge truck the one seen leaving the McStay home.

IMO

Exactly !

 

[Bernina]

52.08 and 53.19 time markers in today's video

Ah, bless you, Tortoise!
Yep, seems to be the same pattern so another thing to connect the grave to the house. ( I was evidently looking at a shadow!)

 

[Bernina]

Maline to Bachman "this particular Dodge truck does not have running lights underneath the headlights, correct?"

55.40 timestamp in today's video posted above.

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But there sure are some on the bumper!

 

[missy1974]

Denys Williams did process the Dodge. I found a snippet at 57:06 in this video:

Thanks! They just say 'process', but no indication if they did any forensic testing, like swabs, fingerprinting.

 

[missy1974]

***Attention - defense distraction alert - defense distraction alert - defense distraction alert***

Photo comparison

1. McStay Dodge front lights
2. File photo showing Dodge front lights illuminated
3. Mitchley video front lights

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I believe (Dodge-y) Maline showed a side view picture of the front of the car to Bachman, which obscured the running lights.

ok, wait... my vehicle expert is at work right now, but aren't those fog lights? if you are meaning the bottom 2 little lights. Those don't automatically come on, at least not in the vehicles I have owned.

 

[missy1974]

Imo, It's going to bite Rudin if he now reverses course. You can bet the state has a full transcript of everything he told them. If he comes across as wishy washy the jury will just throw out his testimony, and will disregard all of it as garbage in.....garbage out.

IMO

With Dr. Rudin, it will come down to what information he was given and when IMO The night before that 402 hearing, he sent more info to the State, the State and the defense had not even looked at it yet when they did that 402 hearing, but Dr. Rudin explained why he sent it so late, and I believe what he was saying was that he didn't have the FARO scan from the neighborhood before, or it was labeled wrong or something. Once he got that Faro Scan, he was actually able to calculate the angle of the camera (did it on his lunch break) and was able to do way more calculations.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

52.08 and 53.19 time markers in today's video

Thank you. These looks very similar to the ones my hubby, also a certified welder, uses to tie down a load of very heavy metal pallets for pick up, and transport.

I forgot to notice. Sorry. How wide was the one found in the grave? TIA

JMO

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Thanks! They just say 'process', but no indication if they did any forensic testing, like swabs, fingerprinting.

IMO when they say it was processed that does mean they forensically tested it when it was taken in to their facilities.

IMO

 

[Bernina]

ok, wait... my vehicle expert is at work right now, but aren't those fog lights? if you are meaning the bottom 2 little lights. Those don't automatically come on, at least not in the vehicles I have owned.

Fog lights are usually yellow/amber and to the side or under the headlights.
Just went out checked, DH's truck has round running lights below the grill like the Dodge.

 

[MrsPC]

Thanks! They just say 'process', but no indication if they did any forensic testing, like swabs, fingerprinting.

But isn't that what Denys Williams does??

 

[Bernina]

IMO when they say it was processed that does mean they forensically tested it when it was taken in to their facilities.

IMO

That's what I believe, what else possibly could "processing" mean?

 

[Tortoise]

ok, wait... my vehicle expert is at work right now, but aren't those fog lights? if you are meaning the bottom 2 little lights. Those don't automatically come on, at least not in the vehicles I have owned.

Ah ok, so maybe I'm wrong on the type of light.

It struck me as a dodgy tactic to pull up a side view of the truck for his question, and not the front view.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

ok, wait... my vehicle expert is at work right now, but aren't those fog lights? if you are meaning the bottom 2 little lights. Those don't automatically come on, at least not in the vehicles I have owned.

My hubby has a Dodge Ram. He says most leave the running/fog lights or the small ones at the bottom of the bumper turned on to automatic. They come on at dusk or when its raining, along with headlights automatically. The small lights will stay on until you put your headlights on bright, and when you dim your lights again.... the bottom lights will come back on again.

JMO