Found Deceased CA - Kiely Rodni Missing From Party Near Prosser Family Campground in Truckee since 8 Aug 2022 #5

[Charlot123]

Another question. The last visual evidence of KR that we know comes from that place in Truckee about 6 PM.

Is there any evidence from the road cameras of KR driving to the party? Allegedly, something about the hoodie, but this is again coming from witnesses who, as the police said, were not ready to cooperate.

12 miles is about the time from my house to work. I definitely prefer to take larger, traffic light-less, roads. I assume most people would drive like it. So there should be some evidence of KR driving to the Prossier camping place on cameras, should there not?

 

[SteveP]

Exactly. I'm not too far removed from my party years, and I can tell you that in my experience, I've been at parties with 10 people and parties with 500 people. At both of them, people have left and I never saw them leave.

As a teenager you're consumed in your own world, and if you're drunk and dancing or talking, you're usually focused on just that and nothing else. If someone leaves the party, you're pretty oblivious to it because you're impaired and busy trying to talk or socialize over loud music and loud drunks.

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I don't find it bizarre that nobody saw anything. Typically fights are the only thing that will bring a group of people together to watch, aside from that though, not much else.

BBM...If you were at a party with 10 people, and you did not see someone leave, that may not be unusual. But if someone left, and none of the other nine saw them leave, then yes, that would seem unlikely. Multiply that out to 200-300 people, or, if that number doesn't seem realistic, drop it down to 40 or 50, and one person leaves, but no one sees it? I have to agree with LE. Someone saw something. Even if they did not personally know Kiely, once news broke and her pic was out there, someone would have remembered. JMO

 

[Charlot123]

Exactly. I'm not too far removed from my party years, and I can tell you that in my experience, I've been at parties with 10 people and parties with 500 people. At both of them, people have left and I never saw them leave.

As a teenager you're consumed in your own world, and if you're drunk and dancing or talking, you're usually focused on just that and nothing else. If someone leaves the party, you're pretty oblivious to it because you're impaired and busy trying to talk or socialize over loud music and loud drunks.

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I don't find it bizarre that nobody saw anything. Typically fights are the only thing that will bring a group of people together to watch, aside from that though, not much else.

You are absolutely right. It may be so that no one sees you either come or leave, especially if it is a dark area, and many people. But how solid is the evidence that KR was at the party at all? Does it come from a couple of friends, or is there visual evidence (cameras, etc)? If her last visual sighting was at 6 pm, at this point, she disappeared, IMHO. JMO. Unless there is visual evidence of her driving somewhere after that. (Understanding that the LE might know more and have better evidence).

 

[SteveP]

You are absolutely right. It may be so that no one sees you either come or leave, especially if it is a dark area, and many people. But how solid is the evidence that KR was at the party at all? Does it come from a couple of friends, or is there visual evidence (cameras, etc)? If her last visual sighting was at 6 pm, at this point, she disappeared, IMHO. JMO. Unless there is visual evidence of her driving somewhere after that. (Understanding that the LE might know more and have better evidence).

Again, LE have stated that Kiely was definitely at the party, and although they have not shared it with us, they have confirmed it. At the 5:31 mark of the 8/15 press conference, the police spokesperson states that they do have video evidence of her at the party, wearing the pink and white sweatshirt. Of all the things that we do not know, that is one question we can check off our list as 'answered'. JMO

 

[seasideForest]

After Kiely, SS, and other friends were drinking shots around 11:00 pm in the car,

Has it been confirmed that they were drinking shots at that time?

 

[seasideForest]

I don't know. I saw a LOT of space where a car could have gone off the road between the 5 and 6 minute marks on the video. I'm sure those areas have been searched, but the narrative in the video that "there's not really much area for her to have gone off the road down an embankment" isn't what I saw. And I'd like to see Alder Road, where he decided not to film.

Very very helpful!

I saw more possibilities for going off the road and down an embankment than the narrative suggested but I also saw a lot fewer possibilities than the general tone on these threads have been from all who commented who are not local.

I'm not local either, far from it, and am obviously not very good at deciphering the topographical maps that were posted a long time ago - probably in the first thread. I assumed there'd be steep drop-offs and that the road round about the campsite was much closer to the water. So it was really helpful to be able to see these videos.

 

[nosotrospapaya]

BBM...If you were at a party with 10 people, and you did not see someone leave, that may not be unusual. But if someone left, and none of the other nine saw them leave, then yes, that would seem unlikely. Multiply that out to 200-300 people, or, if that number doesn't seem realistic, drop it down to 40 or 50, and one person leaves, but no one sees it? I have to agree with LE. Someone saw something. Even if they did not personally know Kiely, once news broke and her pic was out there, someone would have remembered. JMO

Totally possible someone might have seen something, I'm sure everyones experience is different. I was just giving a personal account. I partied way more than the typical person, and thought i'd share my perspective is all. Not discounting anything, rather just adding another point of view. Without an accurate account of the party with videos and pictures for the public to see, it's hard for us to really understand the environment to its fullest. Just trusting that LE has way more than they're letting on, and that this will all be solved soon.

 

[MimosaMornings]

BBM...If you were at a party with 10 people, and you did not see someone leave, that may not be unusual. But if someone left, and none of the other nine saw them leave, then yes, that would seem unlikely. Multiply that out to 200-300 people, or, if that number doesn't seem realistic, drop it down to 40 or 50, and one person leaves, but no one sees it? I have to agree with LE. Someone saw something. Even if they did not personally know Kiely, once news broke and her pic was out there, someone would have remembered. JMO

Wasn’t this promoted as a Senior send off party? Kiely is a senior and likely knows other seniors in her class. Other grades were also invited. (Would like to see how everyone was “invited” but somehow no one seems to known)
Did none of the other seniors come to the party?
Kiely also is a local. She was born and raised in Truckee. Works in a local retail establishment. Unless the party was 90% out of town occasional vacationers - I think Kiely would have known more people than just Mags and SS.
JMO

 

[CharlestonGal]

Has it been confirmed that they were drinking shots at that time?

It depends on your definition of "confirmed". LE has made no statement about it at all. A video interview with one of the partygoers made a statement she and Kiely were doing shots and going back and forth to the car during the party. jmo

 

[Charlot123]

Yes, details are often murky when there is a large gathering of people partying, especially when there is an abundance of drugs and alcohol.

After Kiely, SS, and other friends were drinking shots around 11:00 pm in the car, the effects may have come on quickly. That might be one reason why Kiely called her mom telling her she would be a little late. Maybe she wanted more time to sober up and say goodbye to friends. Or maybe she stayed longer because SS wasn't yet ready to leave.

It's possible that SS just 'thought' she told KR she had a ride, but forgot. That might explain why she was confused when K called again to ask if she still needed a ride.

It seems that Kiely was looking out for her friends, but nobody was looking after Kiely. I would think someone at least walked her to her car or asked if she was ok to drive. When I grew up, the slogan, "Friends don't let friends drive drunk," was ingrained in our heads.

I don't understand this generation. It's as if everyone is just looking out for themselves.
I'm sure Kiely's friends wish they had done things differently. Hopefully they have learned from this and will be more careful in the future.

From me being at many drinking places and observing people drink…I am usually the designated driver, and we have to live with the fact that substances are around us, and try to operate from harm reduction viewpoint. MOO.

1) the effect of alcohol depends on individual responsiveness, ethnicity, way of metabolizing it and also, how long people been drinking (in phase 2, drinkers might retain high tolerance for a long time)
2) a lot depends on whether they ate before drinking, or not, and what they ate (fatty food is the best, salads won’t do much)
3) do they mix drinks, and in what sequence? Beer to wine to whiskey/vodka is much better than vice versa. Champagne after vodka/whiskey/brandy is very inebriating. I am afraid that at kids’ parties, they drink “whatever comes”, and get drunk soon.

My two cents. I consider alcohol to be much worse that pot, although high-THC pot makes people weird and paranoid. (But impaired in a different way than alcohol, and usually, not that aggressive).

As to other substances, they might have synergistic, or sometimes even opposing, effects, but again, often people don’t even know what they are given. This is the problem of the parties. Participants bring whatever they can get, and end up mixing unknown substances. (There was a moment when neighborhood kids were into Lunesta with vodka, it was a horrible combo.)

 

[OldCop]

They had made the comment about trusting what had already been done or something along those lines? I wonder if they felt that Prosser had already been adequately searched?

PCSO and the other agencies have been phenomenal in their efforts to find out what has happened to KR. They did spend days with divers, boats, sonar equipment etc at Prosser in addition to the land searches. They may have been in touch with AWP prior to their arrival to get suggestions for the best way and where to search.
That being said, AWP has a great reputation for finding vehicles in bodies of water that have been searched before. They do have equipment that is not available to many LE agencies. However, they usually conduct their searches on cold cases. I want to word this in the right way: I think they want to make sure that they are not rolling into town with much fanfare and in such a manner that it looks like they are dissing the efforts of the local agencies. They are a wonderful organization and want to maintain good relationships with all law enforcement agencies.
I do not, however, think that they would not search Prosser right away if either they or PCSO still thought their was a good chance that that is where they would find Kiely’s vehicle. MOO

 

[steeltowngirl]

I also don’t understand why SS didn’t check to see if KR did arrive home safely or confirm she was staying over. Did she try to call her in the morning prior to the alert from KR’s mom that she hadn’t arrived home? I get that these are young people partying, but kids are usually tied to their phones. I’m waaaaay older than any of them, an experienced driver, and I still check with my friends to ensure they get home safely. What am I missing?

 

[Charlot123]

Aug 21 2022 rbbm.

No witnesses to Kiely Rodni leaving Tahoe party, officials say

"People aren't talking to us."

www.sfgate.com

''Law enforcement have still yet to identify a single person who saw Kiely Rodni leave a campground party in Tahoe on Aug. 6, officials say.''

"People aren't talking to us," Placer County Sheriff’s Office public information officer Angela Musallam told the New York Post on Thursday. Musallam said many of the 200-300 attendees of the party were underage and may be worried that coming forward will get them in legal trouble. The sheriff's office has repeatedly stressed that people should come forward without fear of repercussions because investigators’ only concern is learning what happened to Kiely.

“A lot of people from the party may be in college or may be just about to start college and they’re afraid they will ruin their future if they say something,” Musallam told the Post.''

This is what I thought. Thank you.
Logically, if there is a party where graduates go and KR is social, and a graduate, she must be there. But, she might have other plans. She might have even shown up and was soon sent to get more alcohol from people who sell it to minors, (being the youngest and more easily influenced, probably), and never came back.

 

[seasideForest]

It depends on your definition of "confirmed". LE has made no statement about it at all. A video interview with one of the partygoers made a statement she and Kiely were doing shots and going back and forth to the car during the party. jmo

I'd take that as a "No, not confirmed" then.
I don't think it was your post anyway, but my concern with a statement of that type using indicative instead of subjunctive (the latter would be: "if KR, SS and friends had been doing shots, then x,y, and z might have occurred as a result" rather than the indicative "they were doing shots and then x,y,z resulted" is that the indicative statements take on a life of their own, as happened with the crème brulée.

My comment would make more sense if I had managed to insert my original comment, but anybody who really wants can find it.

 

[rosesfromangels]

If you watch one of a AWP’s videos you will see the methodology they use for determining where they are going to search. There are many factors they consider including water current, and where there are rational places where a vehicle could enter the water without showing vegetation damage. This is a very simplistic explanation of the very thorough and scientific methods they use; their videos can show you how they go about doing this. It’s very impressive to say the least.

Amateur opinion and speculation

 

[Charlot123]

I wonder if the Mods would allow AWP to be an approved source? They seem to be so professional, thoughtful and thorough. How would we ask them? I hope it is ok to post this here. Thank you!

Also, they have YouTube videos. I think if we all leave “likes” and follow, it helps, as they are volunteers.

 

[steeltowngirl]

Moo...not sure why the cops are getting pissy about no one seeing her leave. People are in there own zone..lots of head lites, people wandering to different cars, just dark shapes moving around is all that would be seen. If someone was watching her...perfect time to ask for a ride. Unless someone one had passengers, think the cops would get same info..as in.no info..about any car driver there...moo

I suppose LE thinks somebody must have seen something and they are holding that info back. When maybe the last thing anyone saw was KR and SS going back and forth to the car together. Perhaps the party crowd has no further information to add, as that detail is already known.

jmo

 

[Beekarina]

I also don’t understand why SS didn’t check to see if KR did arrive home safely or confirm she was staying over. Did she try to call her in the morning prior to the alert from KR’s mom that she hadn’t arrived home? I get that these are young people partying, but kids are usually tied to their phones. I’m waaaaay older than any of them, an experienced driver, and I still check with my friends to ensure they get home safely. What am I missing?

I feel this is unusual too, but then I'm also wondering how much is generational?

I really don't know though, because the young people around me DO check in, AND it seems as though Kiely was checking with her mom and with SS.

It feels like the natural add on to "get home safe" would be for both girls to say something like "text me when you get home" .

 

[Beekarina]

This is what I thought. Thank you.
Logically, if there is a party where graduates go and KR is social, and a graduate, she must be there. But, she might have other plans. She might have even shown up and was soon sent to get more alcohol from people who sell it to minors, (being the youngest and more easily influenced, probably), and never came back.

Just to clarify: we do not know Kiely was the youngest. I would suspect she was not the youngest, as "all grades" were welcome, and she turns 17 in a few weeks.

When I was in high school, we even occasionally had some of the less supervised 8th graders show up at parties.

 

[JnRyan]

I think we can safely rule out that her car was torched somewhere. In an area that is particularly vulnerable to wildfires, any vehicle fire would have quickly been noticed and reported. I also think that while the theory pops up in almost all cases that involve missing vehicles, the chop shop scenario seems unlikely. We all know that they exist, but how many of us personally really knows where one is? It isn't like they advertise online. Driving the vehicle into water, pushing it down a steep ravine, or even parking it in a busy parling lot and walking away are all far more likely, imho. JMO

I don't rule out a car being burned EXCEPT in that local area. We had a crime back in state where I grew up where the vehicle was found burned in the next state over. BUT that requires a WILLING accomplice to drive it out to, say the Nevada desert, and that complicates things. Same with the chop shop scenario. I don't see the likelihood of a teen or 20 something having access to those facilities AND a WILLING accomplice. I don't write them off my list, rather I think the KISS principal applies. The parking lot, water or ravine that you point out are also my possibilities. Another is parking it out of view on vacant rental property. Added to this is the fact that that I don't remember if Kiely's CRV has AWD or 4WD. With that the vehicle can be driven out into any number of places out of sight. Drive it a few hundred yards to a half mile off the road and under trees and it may be months before it is found by accident.