GUILTY CA - Killer targeting the homeless (3 dead, 2 hurt), San Diego, July 2016 *Arrest*

[marble]

Another stabbing last night of a homeless man, but physical description of perp is different and vehicle was involved:

from:
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2016/jul/07/man-stabbed-neck-stomach-encanto/


Another report of the same incident:

http://timesofsandiego.com/crime/20...for-assailant-in-encanto-rec-center-stabbing/

That's nuts. The descriptions taken together say bald, heavy build, and Latino. So not the same person as caught on video unless he took pains to disguise himself and the victim's memory of his assailant was impaired due to shock/trauma.

A copycat?

 

[cvaldez1975]

the suspect was Hispanic and different area, this is south of san diego state and much more east of the others. this was probably a personal attack.

Another stabbing last night of a homeless man, but physical description of perp is different and vehicle was involved:

from:
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2016/jul/07/man-stabbed-neck-stomach-encanto/


Another report of the same incident:

http://timesofsandiego.com/crime/20...for-assailant-in-encanto-rec-center-stabbing/

 

[cvaldez1975]

no, it may be worthwhile. that hat is not your usual sports cap. its different.

Oh, you are right! Utilitarian is exactly the description I was trying to come up with and failing.

Since the SxE / hardcore fashion of the late 90s was worker utilitarian (Dickies, wallet chains, clothes you could travel in, hats, etc.) that might be why it was the first thing that sprang to mind.

So, probably not a worthwhile profiling on my part.

 

[Elainera]

I wonder whether there are two perps working together or in tandem, or in competition. This would account for the two different MO's (stabbing and setting on fire) and the two different descriptions of the perp. Could also be that they don't know each other but one "inspired" the other.

 

[Elainera]

That "chain" that's hanging down his backside looks to me like a piece of strap coming from the backpack that's used for tying the backpack securely around the waist or below the groin through to the front, like some type of harness. I think climbers use it?

 

[Curious Me]

I wonder whether there are two perps working together or in tandem, or in competition. This would account for the two different MO's (stabbing and setting on fire) and the two different descriptions of the perp. Could also be that they don't know each other but one "inspired" the other.

I question the same thing about different modes of attack, but police say it's one man.

Police: Same man is suspect in 4 attacks on homeless Two people have died and a third is not expected to survive
July 6, 2016
http://www.cw6sandiego.com/police-sa...s-on-homeless/

"Police won’t say at this point what exactly makes them think the same person is responsible for all the attacks. But Capt. Nisleit did say there are a number of reasons, and like Chief Zimmerman, said the investigation is now priority one for the department."

Detectives were working to identify a man believed to be responsible for all four crimes,

http://www.cbs8.com/story/32381766/san-diego-police-step-up-patrols-in-wake-of-homeless-attacks

Authorities have declined to disclose the cause or causes of the victims' non-fire-related injuries, but Nisleit said all four victims had suffered significant trauma to their upper bodies.

The fourth victim is so young. I wonder if he has family in the area.

A 23-year-old man was gravely injured in the most recent attack, according to police. His name was not immediately available.

Witnesses told investigators someone was crouched over what they initially thought was a flaming pile of clothing in the area of Broadway and State Street shortly after 5 a.m. Wednesday. After realizing that it actually was a person on fire, a bystander pulled a burning towel off him.

http://www.cbs8.com/story/32381766/san-diego-police-step-up-patrols-in-wake-of-homeless-attacks

 

[Cryptic]

I am afraid that he might have skipped town already. He may have jumped on a bus and fled to Phoenix or downtown LA...

He does not look "hard core" homeless, but as you mentioned, he could be a transient. I wonder if it would pay to stake out the residency hotels in LA and Phoenix that specialize in a semi homeless customer base? As a side note, there are one or two of these large hotels in downtown San Diego- very close to the attacks.

 

[Cryptic]

2. He could have purchased his clothes at a salvation army or similar, but my guess is he still considered what he was wearing carefully. Sort of a uniform rather than a disguise iykwim. His look reminds me a lot of how the late 80s/90s hardcore straight edge kids dressed. Part of that culture often included a transient lifestyle of traveling from show to show and crashing at different "punk houses" (kind of like a punk equivalent of a commune or group house-often these were shared industrial lofts where the shows themselves were held).

This is all a long shot based on a blurry video, but if he's ever travelled in any scene/punk/hardcore circles maybe someone from that seen will remember him.

3. The cap and possible bandana were two things that flag that subculture for me

Though I have never heard of this subculture, I think you have an excellent point abou the "uniform look".

Even his gloves seem to complete the show uniform as they are truly functional industrial gloves. Rather they seem to have been selected for an industrial look. Likewise, the small billed cap has not been in style for years. Such caps were originally used by, and still are used by painters (small bill does not block their view of areas higher up the wall where they are painting). Thus, the cap also has an industrial origin and could well have been selected for its look.

I saw his clothing as utilitarian. it would protect him from flames or counter attack. but the hat caught my eye too, if it flags that subculture you may be onto something.

I think you are right about the look. For example, the gloves are not truly protective. The non white painter's cap is has been out of style for years and would almost have to of been deliberately sought out. Also, in a vague way, his get up seems to be color coordinated (OK, by guy standards) and not just pieces of protective clothing grabbed for an occasion.

 

[Curious Me]

Imagine this suspect without the hat. Shorter hair, side fringe not really side burns, ski jump nose, large ears. They really couldn't do much to change those facial features, but they could shave their head, etc., If he doesn't have a car and wanted to leave the area, then I hope the bus, train, airlines, and borders have his photo.

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Homeless Killer Suspect

 

[CSIDreamer]

Kinda' wonder what all he has in that bag. Is it just me or does the way he moves in the videos make it look heavy?

He also looks either extremely nervous or high. I know the store clerk said he was talking fast but in the first clip he's just all hand movements jumping on that rack.

 

[Betty P]

I agree, he looks to be in that mid-late 30's to 40's range. I noticed in a couple of the still shots from the store video that he has a slight paunch, a little belly. That also makes me think he's not a transient - too well fed.

The unusual green hat almost makes it seem as though he's not trying much to hide his identity. Shocking that, with all the media coverage yesterday, he went out again and tried to kill someone. This guy is something else, seems to be a real sociopath who thinks he's smarter than LE and the public. Very bold.

 

[marble]

Though I have never heard of this subculture, I think you have an excellent point abou the "uniform look".

Even his gloves seem to complete the show uniform as they are truly functional industrial gloves. Rather they seem to have been selected for an industrial look. Likewise, the small billed cap has not been in style for years. Such caps were originally used by, and still are used by painters (small bill does not block their view of areas higher up the wall where they are painting). Thus, the cap also has an industrial origin and could well have been selected for its look.


I think you are right about the look. For example, the gloves are not truly protective. The non white painter's cap is has been out of style for years and would almost have to of been deliberately sought out. Also, in a vague way, his get up seems to be color coordinated (OK, by guy standards) and not just pieces of protective clothing grabbed for an occasion.

Interesting point about the appearance of being utilitarian without *actually* being utilitarian.

I noticed my link above to the cartoon showing in general the style (straight edge hardcore circa late 90s ) linked only to the main page of that site. Here's a direct link to the cartoon in case anyone was wondering which one I meant: http://www.dobi.nu/yourscenesucks/sxe/scene.jpg

 

[Curious Me]

Watching local news CBS News8.

A press release with new information is expected out later tonight.

Shawn Longley Victim #3 attacked and killed in Ocean Beach had a fb page. They said he was from Florida, I also see he was in Phoenix, then I see he was posting he was happy to be back in San Diego on June 28. SAD. Last fb entry was July 3rd. He was reported as a quiet guy. His Mom is sorry to hear he lost he life in that way, her only child.

https://www.facebook.com/shawn.Longley


CBS8
http://www.cbs8.com/Global/category.asp?C=149651

 

[coastal]

Watching local news CBS News8.

A press release with new information is expected out later tonight.

Shawn Longley Victim #3 attacked and killed in Ocean Beach had a fb page. They said he was from Florida, I also see he was in Phoenix, then I see he was posting he was happy to be back in San Diego on June 28. SAD. Last fb entry was July 3rd. He was reported as a quiet guy. His Mom is sorry to hear he lost he life in that way, her only child.

https://www.facebook.com/shawn.Longley


CBS8
http://www.cbs8.com/Global/category.asp?C=149651

KUSI said a press conference is expected at 6:30...here's a link: http://www.kusi.com/category/282069/local-headlines

 

[Hatfield]

Here is the video released by LE from their facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/sandiegopo...188729503444/1059551600800483/?type=2&theater

A few thoughts- people have said he looks homeless based on the screenshots. I disagree. At least in the sense that yes, he has a backpack but he's clean shaven and wearing light colored pants that don't appear filthy. Also his clothes and sneakers look relatively expensive- not high end but mainstream style : the gap, banana republic, LL bean. He doesn't look like he's been living in them for very long, is what I'm trying to say.

I think he's a serial killer/spree killer and he's organized in planning this sick mission out.

He's wearing a cap to help hide his features and he's *wearing gloves* which means no fingerprints from the convenience store.

Wow. What a horrible story. Reminds me of another true story I saw on a crime show about a seriel killer of the homeless who was shooting people.

Sorry if some of this has been posted already because I just found this thread and haven't gone back through all posts yet. Wanted to share my observations of this guy in video if he is the killer.

This guy has something long dangling behind him on a rope or something in the bottom of his backpack or back pockets. It looks like a loose drawstring or something. I don't think he knew that was dangling or he would have put it back because it can get caught on things the way it bounces around.

There is also something hanging out his left side pocket like a small rag or another pair of gloves or something.

I agree he looks to be on a killing mission. At beginning of video he is real fidgety because he bounces his right hand on the counter nervously. I wonder if he had just got done attacking someone since he was getting drink and being all nervous.

 

[carbuff]

That "chain" that's hanging down his backside looks to me like a piece of strap coming from the backpack that's used for tying the backpack securely around the waist or below the groin through to the front, like some type of harness. I think climbers use it?

I think you're right about it being the pack's waist strap. You fasten it for stability when the pack is heavy.

Climbers use a harness like you describe for safety with their ropes and stuff, but it wouldn't be part of the backpack. It's also not something they usually wear around after they're done climbing.

 

[mrsobrien]

Fox 5 has reported an arrest! I'm sitting in a parking lot, not linking hahahaha

 

[Hatfield]

Fox 5 has reported an arrest! I'm sitting in a parking lot, not linking hahahaha

Great news about the arrest.

I see everyone noticed the same things I had noticed too in the video. Good job people.

The one thing weird about his shoes near the end is near the heel there appears to be something attached to the outside of the heel of the shoes. Either that or they are falling apart. I wondered if he had something on his shoes that attach to bicycle pedals or something.

The heels of his shoes appear wider towards end of video like something is attached to them. Really strange.

So glad arrest is made.

 

[coastal]

Press conference on now; link above ^. Bad guy is "Padgett", born in Chula Vista. No details forthcoming...at this time. Will be booked shortly.
That's all I've got.
Yay, San Diego PD!

Edited to add: arrest made at 10:30 am in CV.

 

[Curious Me]

Press Conference now
Arrest
Born in Chula Vista!

http://fox5sandiego.com/