GUILTY CA - Lana Clarkson, 40, fatally shot, Alhambra, 3 Feb 2003

[Wrinkles]

Hiya Gang,

Does anyone know anything about the witness Stephanie Jennings? Is anyone aware of what might have injured her nose?

W

 

[Wrinkles]

Here is a link...

Stephanie on the stand.

It seems that I have seen an earlier picture of this young woman wherein her nose looked quite different?

W

 

[Wrinkles]

Found the answer here...

>>Spector scribbled notes as Jennings testified. He looked briefly at a snapshot showing Jennings and him together. Facial injuries from a car accident two years ago have altered her appearance.<<

So sad... My son had a horrific collision between his face and the metal frame of a trampoline (with no padding on it.) The damage looked very similar to that which Stephanie's face reflects. Fortunately, a series of plastic surgeries were able to rebuild his nose and restore his breathing. These were long surgeries (4 hours at a time) and painful recoveries, but fortunately his face was restored to have a nose again.

I don't know why Stephanie hasn't had surgery. If it is a matter of expense, I sure hope a doctor who is an expert at nose reconstruction offers some help. Also, I hope that her having to wait for this trial to begin, etc. has not been the reason she has not been helped with this (if it was her wish.)

W

 

[Wrinkles]

Hmmm...

Just thinking of the faces of the trial.

I was just thinking that if someone DID smack Spector, maybe his wig WOULD fall down and stick to his face so we didn't have to see it anymore. I'd far rather see his bald head then the smirky looks he is giving so far.

W

 

[tennessee]

The shaking tremors Spector has are NOT typical of Parkinson-like tremors. A psychiatrist on Nancy Grace discussed that this looks like tardive dyskinesia to her. It is a side effect from long term use of anti-psychotic medications.

"Tardive dyskinesia is characterized by repetitive, involuntary, purposeless movements. Features of the disorder may include grimacing, tongue protrusion, lip smacking, puckering and pursing of the lips, and rapid eye blinking. Rapid movements of the arms, legs, and trunk may also occur. Impaired movements of the fingers may appear as though the patient is playing an invisible guitar or piano. Patients with Parkinson's disease have difficulty moving, while patients with tardive dyskinesia have difficulty not moving." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tardive_dyskinesia

Spector makes no attempt to put his hands in his lap, but rather places his arms on the table in front of him with eelbows down, arms raised and hands clasped - a position which could actually contribute to the continuation of tremors.

He is weird, weird, weird. His facial countenance throughout the trial thus far is a an evil-looking stare.

I don't think he has Parkinson's at all or Tardive Dyskinesia. I think he is furious that someone actually had the guts to prosecute him.

Did anyone else catch Ashley B. telling of the times he has pulled guns on people in the past and been charged with only misdemeanors? She also interviewed some Hollywood reporter that said she had heard the rumors about him with guns but that he never did anything like that with her. It was supposedly only when he was drinking that he lost his marbles.

 

[tennessee]

I think I liked the big hair better. He should just go bald. He wouldn't look so freakish . . . . . maybe.

 

[Wrinkles]

Does anyone know the longest amount of time Spector could spend in his "castle away from castle" should he be convicted in this trial?

The man has not one iota of softness in his countenance. One of the reporters brought up his attitude when the police arrived. They made the point, "If someone committed suicide in your presence would you have an attitude when the police showed up?" I suppose it would be possible, but...

W

 

[Niner]

Does anyone know the longest amount of time Spector could spend in his "castle away from castle" should he be convicted in this trial?

this is what I found in some of the papers that I was going thru reading on the case:
what Spector is charged with: 2nd degree murder in which he could receive a 15-year to life sentence.

 

[Seven]

I read a book that Ronnie Spector wrote and she did live in a nightmare with him. Don't know if she'll testify.

i just read this interview w/her in which she says, "

'I just want to get on stage and sing and be happy,' she says, plaintively, in a voice that is a dead ringer for that of Janice, the loud and trashy Noo Yoiker who sometimes appeared on early episodes of Friends as Chandler's on-off squeeze. 'That's all I've ever wanted, and, this time, I feel I'm really getting there, so I can't let someone else take it from me again. They're trying to get me to go out there and testify, but I cannot go through that again in my whole life. No way, I'd be a basket case. Believe me, I'm not a happy camper about this. It upsets me. It's not really a good subject for me right now.'

http://arts.guardian.co.uk/features/story/0,,1739547,00.html

at this point, i havent read the entire article, but is was done in england, so i wonder whether she's avoiding subpena?

she was gonna release a new album ("The Last of the Rock Stars") right around the time spector's trial started and has now postponed the release until september.

*** Did anyone see that interview by michael bryant with phil's two twin sons, who say they were adopted as a "christmas gift for ronnie," but tho they were twins, phil would lock them in separate bedrooms every night after dinner, so they never spent as much time with each other as they ordinarily would have. there was barbed wire on the fence, dogs in the yard, and guards on the premises .... i wouldnt be surprised if ronnie didnt get similar treatment.

:loser: :loser: :loser:

 

[AlwaysShocked]

The Brtish paper, The Guardian, certainly has some good in-depth articles about Spector and those who have interacted with him.

Re: Ronnie Spector interview. It states in the opening paragraph that the interview took place in Danbury, Connecticut. She has posponed the release of a new album until August to try to avoid the release coinciding with Phil's trial.

For a view of some of Phil's hairstyles through the years: http://ktla.trb.com/news/ktla-spector-specialpkg,0,6106460.special?coll=ktla-home-1 Then click onto "Facing the Music"

Plus I found the following to be most interesting - from an article dated Octover 14, 2005. Anybody know how the judge ruled on this?

"Music producer Phil Spector was suffering withdrawal symptoms from prescription drugs when he told police he had shot and killed a woman at his mansion in 2003, his defence attorneys argue in court papers.
His lawyers are trying to get a judge to throw out his incriminating statements. They say that police ignored his requests for his medication after they took him into custody and that he was experiencing symptoms of withdrawal that "could include" hallucinations, memory loss, serious fatigue and slurring. The medicines were for treating depression, seizures, stomach acid, migraines and pain, according to lawyers."

http://arts.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,,1592020,00.html

 

[jarvis]

I hope a little personal Phil Spector anecdote is okay here.

I used to work at a recording studio in Hollywood in the late 80s and 90s, and one day Phil Spector's long-time audio engineer, Larry Levine, happened to come to our studio and noticed that our master recording console was a vintage Neve console that he and Phil particularly liked, and he said that he would try to bring a Phil Spector project to our studio some time. We had all heard the stories about Spector, but Larry assured us that it would be okay.

So he eventually did book a week at our studio. He told us that Phil likes to work at night and didn't like extra people around, so we assigned a second engineer to work their session and pretty much left them alone. After about four nights, we walked into the control room one morning, and there were four or five bullet holes in the glass between the control room and the studio. The studio owner freaked out, but on closer inspection it turns out that the bullet holes had actually been drawn on the glass with a Sharpie and a China Marker. They looked totally realistic. Larry later told us that Spector had drawn them on the glass himself. Spector didn't come back after that, and Larry finished the project by himself.

 

[Wrinkles]

Hiya Jarvis,

Thanks for the anecdotal history. Go figure, a XX year old dude doodling bullet holes that looked "realistic" onto glass. Speaks to things going through this guy's mind, I'd say.

I don't think I have ever doodled a bullet hole, wouldn't have a clue what one looks like in glass, wouldn't have the foggiest idea how to begin drawing one.

Got a clue of the year this happened?

Oh yeah...question... Was the glass in a position where one could merely stand on the floor and doodle, or would this have meant climbing up onto something (a counter, a step stool) to draw?

W

 

[baleuf]

I hope a little personal Phil Spector anecdote is okay here.

I used to work at a recording studio in Hollywood in the late 80s and 90s, and one day Phil Spector's long-time audio engineer, Larry Levine, happened to come to our studio and noticed that our master recording console was a vintage Neve console that he and Phil particularly liked, and he said that he would try to bring a Phil Spector project to our studio some time. We had all heard the stories about Spector, but Larry assured us that it would be okay.

So he eventually did book a week at our studio. He told us that Phil likes to work at night and didn't like extra people around, so we assigned a second engineer to work their session and pretty much left them alone. After about four nights, we walked into the control room one morning, and there were four or five bullet holes in the glass between the control room and the studio. The studio owner freaked out, but on closer inspection it turns out that the bullet holes had actually been drawn on the glass with a Sharpie and a China Marker. They looked totally realistic. Larry later told us that Spector had drawn them on the glass himself. Spector didn't come back after that, and Larry finished the project by himself.

Whoa! Freaky:waitasec:

 

[Wrinkles]

Looking at some history...

Anyone have a clue? I admit it, I don't get it...

Ronnie Spector was born in 1943, she married to Phil in 1968. Ronnie's age at time of marriage was approxmately 25, Phil would have been about 29 at the time ("Harvey Phillip" was born in 1939 - on Dec. 26, 2007 he will be 68, HOLY SMOKES!)

Now then... I was also married in 1968, but I was 18 at the time. Even so, and understanding a little "of the times" in 1968, I don't get this quote from one of the website interviews:

http://arts.guardian.co.uk/features/story/0,,1739547,00.html
>>My honeymoon night was spent on the floor in the bathroom with my mother,' she later recounted in her racy memoir, Be My Baby, How I Survived Mascara, Miniskirts and Madness, published in 1989.<<

I'm trying to figure out a few things...

Phil and Ronnie, evidently met several years before their marriage. "Be My Baby" was produced in about 1963 (Ronnie would have been about 20 then, "Harvey Phillip" would have been about 24). So these two people knew each other for about 5 years prior to marriage (record 1963, marriage 1968)

QUESTION 1: Back to the "honeymoon night" quote above...
What was a mother doing anywhere near her daughter on a honeymoon night? i.e. "on the floor in the bathroom?

QUESTION 2: Ummm...what was going on, on the floor in the bathroom? Crying, upset? About what?
Ummm who was the bathroom floor about, the mother needing help or Ronnie needing it?

W

 

[jarvis]

Got a clue of the year this happened?

Oh yeah...question... Was the glass in a position where one could merely stand on the floor and doodle, or would this have meant climbing up onto something (a counter, a step stool) to draw?

W

Thanks, Wrinkles.

This would've been in maybe 1993 or 1994. I don't think I ever knew who the artist was or if a record was even released. The glass was right at eye level down in front of the recording console, sort of a knee-level-to-ceiling thing. The "bullet holes" were complete with spreading cracks and a shadowed center hole--totally convincing. I'm guessing Phil probably had plenty of real ones to copy.

 

[Wrinkles]

Hiya Jarvis,

Hmmm... Another interesting thought... I wonder who did the repair work in his home through the years. Do you suppose that someone has been fixing bullet holes in that house?

I wonder if he has a gunnery range in that house or on that property.

W

 

[Jeana (DP)]

You know, people always complain about celebrities getting away with everything. Well, these four or five women who are testifying about what he did to them in the past is the REASON why they do. No one wants to call the police???? I'm sorry, but if some freak points a gun at me, I'm calling the PoPo! These women who got out of his house after these incidents have Clarkson's blood on their hands. I hope they realize that.:doh: :doh: :doh: :doh:

 

[Niner]

*** Did anyone see that interview by michael bryant with phil's two twin sons, who say they were adopted as a "christmas gift for ronnie," but tho they were twins, phil would lock them in separate bedrooms every night after dinner, so they never spent as much time with each other as they ordinarily would have. there was barbed wire on the fence, dogs in the yard, and guards on the premises .... i wouldnt be surprised if ronnie didnt get similar treatment.

:loser: :loser: :loser:

Do you have a link to this interview, maybe?? Interesting, I'd love to read if possible!!

 

[Niner]

a bit off topic from the trial... but I just went through a bunch of 45s records I have - and found a couple with Phil Spector as the producer... wondering if they are worth any $$ now??? :waitasec: Guess I should look those up on ebay, eh??

 

[Seven]

Do you have a link to this interview, maybe?? Interesting, I'd love to read if possible!!

happy monday, Niner!

i've seen that interview w/michael bryant and the twin sons on CTV a couple times. there might be a link to it on the ctv website, but i havent perused it, so dont know one way or the other.

just heard theyre supposed to have the testimony of the driver
?adriano? when they get back from lunch at 1:30 p.m. :woohoo: