GUILTY CA - Lana Clarkson, 40, fatally shot, Alhambra, 3 Feb 2003

[panthera]

I am so happy the prosecutors are going forward again. It is such a waste of taxpayers money for a trial to end in a hung jury, but I would rather have a hung jury than a compromise not guilty. I think if I were the prosecutors I would keep a keen eye on the new panel. I really think there could have been some tampering with the pool and that is just MHO but it could happen.

I would not put ANYTHING past PS and his cohorts. JMHO of course

I'm just glad it was a hung jury and not an aquittal too. I don't know if it was jury tampering or just two jurors who didn't think PS pulled the trigger. I am really curious though who he's going to pick for his new attorneys and if the defense is still going to be the same.

 

[Jeana (DP)]

Guys, I've just seen the pictures of Lana dead at the scene. If anyone wants the website info, they'll have to PM me. I'm not posting the link here. They are not as bad as I braced myself for, but they're disturbing nonetheless.

 

[panthera]

Guys, I've just seen the pictures of Lana dead at the scene. If anyone wants the website info, they'll have to PM me. I'm not posting the link here. They are not as bad as I braced myself for, but they're disturbing nonetheless.

Thanks Jeana I've already seen them at a site that was linked from elsewhere during the trial.

 

[Jeana (DP)]

Thanks Jeana I've already seen them at a site that was linked from elsewhere during the trial.

I read that the bottom half of her jaw was gone, but that's not the case at all. In fact, its even easy to see just how beautiful she was just before Phil killed her. Very, very sad.

 

[Nova]

Hey Buzz, isn't there a place called PlanetHollywood?

I'm not Buzz, but he lives in Northern California anyway. Planet Hollywood is a chain of restaurants, launched in the early 1990s, I believe, to be the "movie" equivalent of the Hard Rock cafes. A new one is opening in Vegas next month. The original partners were movie stars like Bruce Willis and Arnold Schwartzenegger and the restaurants are decorated with movie memorabilia.

Hey wasn't the jury foreperson the big notetaker? What the crap did he or they need 3 more notebooks for anyway, and today????? Maybe they are free and the jury foreman needed them for his book. Do they get to take their notes home? I didn't think they were able to keep them. One thing tho, if this big notetaker was a NG, I doubt he really knew the evidence for imo when one is writing constantly, they are not actually able to concentrate and internalize what the heck they were writing.

It's been a few years, but the times I was a CA juror, our notebooks were taken from us at the end of each day during the trial and deliberations, but, yes, we took them home after verdicts were reached.

Note taking wasn't allowed when I was a juror in NY (mid-80s) and we were told the rule dated from the days when lots of jurors were illiterate and it was thought those who could write down testimony would have undo sway over those who had to rely on memory alone. But jurors have been taking notes in CA courts for decades.

I believe cognitive studies show that one remembers much more when taking notes. This is why college students are taught to do so during lectures. (My personal experience as a longtime student was that everything I wrote during class was burnished in my brain and I rarely referred to the notes once I had taken them.) I don't know what the foreman's problem was, but I doubt it was note taking.

 

[panthera]

I read that the bottom half of her jaw was gone, but that's not the case at all. In fact, its even easy to see just how beautiful she was just before Phil killed her. Very, very sad.

Since it was an intra-oral gunshot with the barrel of the gun inside her mouth, and the caliber of the gun with no exit wound ~ to me that lessened the exterior damage to her body. She did have the crowns on her upper front teeth blown off but her beautiful face was still there after death. If you look carefully at the photos, and see her leopard-print handbag on her shoulder it's clear (to me, at least) that this isn't the picture of a woman who killed herself. She just wanted to go home.

 

[panthera]

I believe cognitive studies show that one remembers much more when taking notes. This is why college students are taught to do so during lectures. (My personal experience as a longtime student was that everything I wrote during class was burnished in my brain and I rarely referred to the notes once I had taken them.) I don't know what the foreman's problem was, but I doubt it was note taking.

I completely agree with this, and with a trial lasting 4 months, I can certainly see why notes would be important to refresh the jurors memories while deliberating.

 

[Jeana (DP)]

Since it was an intra-oral gunshot with the barrel of the gun inside her mouth, and the caliber of the gun with no exit wound ~ to me that lessened the exterior damage to her body. She did have the crowns on her upper front teeth blown off but her beautiful face was still there after death. If you look carefully at the photos, and see her leopard-print handbag on her shoulder it's clear (to me, at least) that this isn't the picture of a woman who killed herself. She just wanted to go home.

You are right about everything you posted. I think that little pig Spector should be taken out back and . . . . well, you get it.

 

[Schmerty_Jones]

You are right about everything you posted. I think that little pig Spector should be taken out back and . . . . well, you get it.

Fry his bacon?:slap: :slap:

 

[Jeana (DP)]

Fry his bacon?:slap: :slap:

Works for me!

 

[panthera]

You are right about everything you posted. I think that little pig Spector should be taken out back and . . . . well, you get it.

It's even an insult to pigs to compare him with one! But I read you loud and clear ~ and agree!!

 

[Niner]

Hey all... since the other thread had about 21 pages or so - I decided to start a new one - hope you all don't mind!!

I believe there is a Hearing today for Phil... does anyone know 'what' time that might start??

Thanks!

 

[CW]

I'm going to post part 3 thread so that when the new trial starts we will have it handy.

Part 3- http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50779

 

[Squishified]

Phil wants his money back from Robert Shapiro:

http://www.tmz.com/2007/12/19/spector-hiring-a-lawyer-can-be-murder/

 

[Greywing]

Has there been a new trial date set? News getting hard to come by .......

 

[Alice253]

Found a couple of things.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iz91WWPbcN6WtDZh5m_gByqllTTwD8U1ESR80

Phil Spector Murder Trial Witness Dies

LOS ANGELES (AP) — A woman who testified against Phil Spector at his murder trial last year has died, but prosecutors vowed Monday that the loss would not substantially affect the music producer's second trial.

Dianne Ogden, 61, who was one of four women who testified that Spector had threatened her with a gun, died at home in Park City, Utah, on Dec. 29, said Argus Hamilton, a friend.

Much more at link, and...

http://www.tabloidcolumn.com/phil-spector.html

Phil Spector gets a new lawyer. A San Francisco lawyer says he will represent Phil Spector in his retrial on a murder charge and that he could not be ready to proceed until September. Doron Weinberg's proposed date for the new trial would put it exactly one year after the record producer's first one ended in a hung jury.

 

[Taximom]

Spector Kills on Red Carpet
(That's a really bad pun by TMZ.)
http://www.tmz.com/2008/02/22/spector-kills-on-the-red-carpet/
Pic of him w/wife

 

[joe jones]

http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_8561512

now wants the judge removed,

Hearing on the 28th

 

[joe jones]

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/03/26/spector.retrial.ap/index.html

judge is staying put

 

[William N]

There was a hearing held today. Spector's new lawyer said he could not be ready for trial until September at the "earliest." When the mistrial happened last year, Judge Fidler said something to the effect that Spector must hire a new lawyer who had no previous commitments and would be ready for trial by this spring.

Instead, Spector kept one of his first legal team, Plourd, who had two trials lined up this year. Spector hopes Plourd's trials will drag on through 2008. His new lawyer, Doron Weinberg, is trying to get Fidler thrown off the case which would delay it even further. It is possible that Spector will not face a second trial in 2008. Below is a thread:

http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_8730330