CA - Liz Hamel, 18, UC Santa Barbara Student falls to her death from dorm breezeway 20 minutes after leaving restaurant with unknown male, 14 Feb 2025

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I saw this on my local news today. What an awful tragedy.
In the last post here, I see the guy has been identified and police have spoken with him.

“He said he did not call 911 due to being afraid.” Really? And she was still alive for heaven's sakes!
So he was with her, what happened in those 20 minutes ??

Feel so bad for her parents...their only child no less.
 
Maybe there is a crime they can charge him with, for not seeking help. He clearly knew what happened, and there is no excuse for not seeking immediate help.

I am suspicious.

Her poor family deserves the full truth. I hope LE does not just let this case stall.
 
Maybe there is a crime they can charge him with, for not seeking help. He clearly knew what happened, and there is no excuse for not seeking immediate help.

I am suspicious.

Her poor family deserves the full truth. I hope LE does not just let this case stall.

JMO, but I think the campus police should have called in outside LE for assistance in solving this case. If Liz Hamel fell from the breezeway on February 14th, Valentine's Day, it seems late to have finally located and interviewed the person that she left the restaurant with only 20 minutes or so before she fell. It's a good thing her father held a press conference to get flyers out with pictures of the guy she was with that night. Her father said he was worried that it was the end of the semester and students would be leaving campus soon, and yet no progress had been made by campus police on identifyng the male she was with.

Also, what was she doing on the breezeway near that particular residence hall/dorm? Apparently, her res hall was on the other side of campus. If he wasn't a student and didn't live there, then was he visiting someone, staying at the res hall? Lots of unanswered questions. Why aren't campus police holding a press conference? It's been going on three months since Liz fell to her death.
 

from the sfgate you linked:
“She, apparently accidentally, left her phone and identification in the restaurant; both were later picked up by friends.”
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Odd to have left her phone and ID behind, when for the majority of young people, they are never without their phones. jmo.

Have they done an autopsy/toxicology? Of course, this may turnout to be something entirely different, but reading about this case brought to my memory a case of a college student in CO who jumped from a balcony and died. He had eaten a marijuana edible in cookie form. He was supposed to eat only 1/6 of the cookie, but he ate the whole thing, and had a psychotic reaction. (Link)
 
from the sfgate you linked:
“She, apparently accidentally, left her phone and identification in the restaurant; both were later picked up by friends.”
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Odd to have left her phone and ID behind, when for the majority of young people, they are never without their phones. jmo.

Have they done an autopsy/toxicology? Of course, this may turnout to be something entirely different, but reading about this case brought to my memory a case of a college student in CO who jumped from a balcony and died. He had eaten a marijuana edible in cookie form. He was supposed to eat only 1/6 of the cookie, but he ate the whole thing, and had a psychotic reaction. (Link)

I don’t know how a breezeway looks like, but if he sat her on it to kiss, for example, and they both were not totally sober, it could have been enough for her to fall. Then the traumas would have been on her back and the back of the head. Close to the brainstem.

I wonder if it is exactly what has happened. But that would explain the guy’s reasoning behind his disappearance (drunk? With drugs in the system? Maybe provided something for her as well?). And, of course, one immediately gets sober…and cowardly.

Another thing, if she graduated a year ago, her ID must have been fake. If he was below 21, he probably had the same reasoning. He could have been a student or, sadly, a known dealer on the campus.

The local police might have known him and didn’t want a scandal. The walkways could have been unsafe for starts. If she was a minor and served in a nearby bar, another scandal. Too common.

My condolences to the family. What is interesting, she is local, from WA, and for sure, all the schools are rather known. Yet this story didn’t make waves locally till now. It tells me that the parents did everything right. They quietly hired a lawyer and a PI and as I hope, will bring the case to the deserved end. Too sad, and what a horrible thing, to lose one’s only child.

Somehow this case reminds me of that of Ribe and Konanki. A young woman, a big, but cowardly man, and an establishment, be it a resort or a university, mostly concerned about own reputation.
 

The article contains a photo of the San Rafael dorm. I assume the walkway stands for the balconies? The railings look high. Do they end above one’s waist? Maybe the scenario is different? (Someone leaned forward feeling nauseated, for example?)

What do you think?

If the guy was there, how could he just leave? Unbelievable.
Her fall could have been completely an accident that he had no part in. But it’s criminal in my opinion, that he didn’t call 911 immediately and then left the scene.

I don’t care what he was scared of or why, he left her die on that sidewalk. He should face charges for that.

Toxicology results will undoubtedly factor into explaining her death, JMO. Her poor family my heart hurts for them.
 
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Here is more about the case


And her

 
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You can claim fear, poor memory, whatnot. But, I think as the society we have to start giving people consequences for not minimally helping?

I agree -- he deserves real consequences. Of course you'll feel fear witnessing something like that. But all he had to do is call 911, even anonymously. Ideally comfort her until help arrived, but at least call.
 
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It is stated in one of the posted articles that she was studying chemistry and biology.
 
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Photographs from her father show Hamel with friends at 10:05 p.m., nearly twenty minutes before she was discovered unconscious outside San Rafael hall.
 
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I’m a bit confused about the timeline if she left the bar at 10:06 pm and was found at 10:26pm by a student thats only 20 min.
And who knows how long she has been lying there before being found.

How can she go from leaving the restaurant to be found dead in only 20 min.

It’s almost like she just went up there and immediately fell down without much time for anything else in the meantime. Like talking or having a drink etc .
It’s one of the shortest timelines I have ever seen.
 
I’m a bit confused about the timeline if she left the bar at 10:06 pm and was found at 10:26pm by a student thats only 20 min.
And who knows how long she has been lying there before being found.

How can she go from leaving the restaurant to be found dead in only 20 min.

It’s almost like she just went up there and immediately fell down without much time for anything else in the meantime. Like talking or having a drink etc .
It’s one of the shortest timelines I have ever seen.
From the reports on MSM, it sounds like the noodle house restaurant where she and her friends went to on Valentine's Day was very close to the residence hall where she fell from the upper floor outside walkway that has been shown in some MSM photos. (MSM article linked below states that the restaurant was a 6 minute walk from the residence hall location where she was found.) It appears she left the restaurant with a male after interacting with him for some time at the restaurant. She left without her cell phone or ID. We don't know why she was walking on the upper floor walkway/breezeway of the residence hall above where she was found 20 minutes after the left the restaurant with the male. It hasn't been reported if he was a student or not, and if not, did he have a friend or friends in that residence hall that he was visiting and/or staying with? Did Liz fall over the railing of the outside walkway? How?
The 20 minutes makes sense given the close proximity of the restaurant to the residence hall.

Note that it wasn't Liz's residence hall. Her residence hall was apparently in another area of the campus.

ETA She was likely found lying on the ground after the fall fairly quickly by a student or other passerby. It was still early on a Friday night, and in front of a campus residence hall, so there would have been a lot of foot traffic at that time. And she wasn't deceased at that time, the passerby called 911 and it has been reported in MSM that paramedics found her in cardiac arrest, along with other conditions/injuries. She died one week later in the hospital, never regaining consciousness from the sounds of it, due to brain injury.

 
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Has her date admitted witnessing her fall? Was nothing caught on camera?
Authorities have spoken to the mystery man who was seen with UCSB student Liz Hamel shortly before her deadly fall, but aren’t offering any details on what they learned.

Authorities have not publicly identified the man or said whether he is a person of interest in the investigation.

“Many people came forward, identifying this person, and the family is so grateful,” said attorney Tyrone Maho. “The family’s investigator, Michael Claytor, then turned over all this information to law enforcement. We understand that UCSB Police have interviewed him and are now working with our District Attorney’s office. We are encouraged to see where this vital piece leads the investigation.”

 

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