CA CA - Los Angeles Co, WhtFem 20-30, UP4456, drug overdose, maybe name 'Patty', Dec'75

[alucardsdream]

You would think they would want to release pictures knowing it might be the only way she'll ever be identified.

 

[Bit of hope]

Yes I also think that....they are not in a hurry.....as it seems....Guess they lost the file....(my wicked site...sorry) She was just a drug-abuser.....In Dutch we have a very good (sarcastically meant) saying "Eigen schuld dikke bult"..... what means something like....own fault so why bother......I want her to be recognized and not be judged.....she is a Jane Doe....a human being.....no matter what!

 

[Bit of hope]

Is there anybody who can edit the Wikipedia site about UID's in America/has an account? She is not at this site...we can make a statement and put here there!

 

[alucardsdream]

It's sad, but you're right. I would like to think we've made a lot of progress towards equal treatment for all victims, but it's definitely a slow process in some places. It's just upsetting to see all these cases from before I was even born and the victims still don't have a name. But then I see all the things that people here are doing to help get these cases solved and it makes me feel better about humanity in general.

 

[DaisyChains]

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...acy%92-Spahn-23-East-Dubuque-11-February-1975

Maybe this girl? It's a long shot.

 

[Bit of hope]

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...acy%92-Spahn-23-East-Dubuque-11-February-1975

Maybe this girl? It's a long shot.

Patricia Spahn, missing from
Jo Daviess County, Illinois, 23 year old whitefemale, missing since February 11, 1975. UID found December21, 1975, L.A., Los Angeles County,California estimated age between 20 -30
Height 63.0 to 64.0 inches (5’3”– 5’4&#8221 UID 5’6”
Weight 110 -115 pounds UID 111 lbs
Brown hair, blue eyes UIDblondish/brown hair, blue/hazel eyes
Her AKA wasStacy / wouldn't it be more logic that she had a tattoo with Stacy? I don't know?!
No mentioningof a scar on right knee or tattoo. No mentioning of drug use (possible occurred after missing) Left with two men, they were found, but didn’t want to take a polygraph test. Believedher body was buried under a swimming pool, but her body was never found whenthey had the chance of digging there. The total story doesn’t seem to add up,for being a match, though.
Here arethe links to her Websleuths thread andNamus case
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?31884-IL-Patricia-%91Stacy%92-Spahn-23-East-Dubuque-11-February-1975
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/32711/7/ Patricia Spahn is not a rule out for this UID (actually nobody is listed)

 

[Romulus]

Probable this young girl not reported missing, as the case of Andrea Kuiper

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...-Apr-90-Andrea-Kuiper&highlight=andrea+kuiper

 

[Bit of hope]

I still think she might be Patricia Hernandez but according to the stats she went missing far later than uid was found or she was an illegal alien (sorry for this word)

 

[Alleykins]

Probable this young girl not reported missing, as the case of Andrea Kuiper

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...-Apr-90-Andrea-Kuiper&highlight=andrea+kuiper

The good news is that this UP has fingerprints, so with all the updates the FBI is doing, maybe "Patty's" are in there, too, just waiting to be added/updated.

 

[Bit of hope]

The good news is that this UP has fingerprints, so with all the updates the FBI is doing, maybe "Patty's" are in there, too, just waiting to be added/updated.

I really hope so. The other day I was looking at all the Mexican (mostly) men who died and are found in the All American canal and dessert....and not identified...

 

[Alleykins]

I really hope so. The other day I was looking at all the Mexican (mostly) men who died and are found in the All American canal and dessert....and not identified...

Tragically, there are a lot of unidentified remains found near by US-Mexican borders going back decades.

 

[Irish_Eyes]

Found this on an old site. At 36, she is probably too far out of the age range. And since this info is from 1999 I suppose it is always possible that she has since been found, either alive or deceased. Can anyone find a missing report, photo, and/or DOD for this person?

Name:kimberlee armson-grall
Email:[email protected]
City State: westlake, oregon
Date Posted: Friday, December 24, 1999 at 13:52:27
Vital Information:
my mother has been missing approx. since 1972 she was born 3-30-39 as patricia lorraine gentle. my sisters and i have hired many agencies to no avail. I believe she is dead but if anyone has any info please write. she lived in redondo beach, calif. her whole life. thank you

From this site: http://www.angelfire.com/wa2/adopted/index2.html

 

[Bit of hope]

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VLNT-YQV could this be her?

 

[Irish_Eyes]

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VLNT-YQV could this be her?

Yes, that looks to be the correct birthdate. But there are several posts about her from one or more searching family members:

Name:kimberlee dawn pitman
Email:[email protected]
City State: westlake, Or.
Date Posted: Thursday, May 11, 2000 at 05:21:42
Vital Information:
Searching for my biological father, Donald Meldrum Armson. He was 28 when I was born 4/29/59 at Torrance Memorial Hospital to my mother Patricia Lorraine Gentle Armson(who is missing and presumed dead) All I know is he was originally from Canada. Thank You.

From: http://www.angelfire.com/wa2/adopted/index2.html

This suggests she may have been found alive though, no? https://adoptiondatabase.quickbase.com/db/7c2gsmqv?a=dr&rid=23791&rl=bejy

 

[Bit of hope]

Yes, that looks to be the correct birthdate. But there are several posts about her from one or more searching family members:

Name:kimberlee dawn pitman
Email:[email protected]
City State: westlake, Or.
Date Posted: Thursday, May 11, 2000 at 05:21:42
Vital Information:
Searching for my biological father, Donald Meldrum Armson. He was 28 when I was born 4/29/59 at Torrance Memorial Hospital to my mother Patricia Lorraine Gentle Armson(who is missing and presumed dead) All I know is he was originally from Canada. Thank You.

From: http://www.angelfire.com/wa2/adopted/index2.html

This suggests she may have been found alive though, no? https://adoptiondatabase.quickbase.com/db/7c2gsmqv?a=dr&rid=23791&rl=bejy

Thanks for searching... I can see why you thought this could be her. It looks like she (Patricia Gentle) is indeed found in 2008 by her adopted son. Very interesting stuff.

 

[Bit of hope]

Bumping for "Patricia"....... still people care for you....even just a drug victim.... no picture...no answers to questions I asked at LE/coroner... just not an interesting case.... but for me it it.............

 

[Romulus]

However it is not said that this girl was called Patricia; just not to be recognized, he adopted that nickname that he liked.

 

[Bit of hope]

Absolutely a possibility, but I think tattooing a nickname on your body...I don't know. At least she had something with that name (maybe even her daughters name) I have my doubts about the extensiveness of her autopsy...there is so much we have questions about.

Yesterday I send again an E-mail about it to the coroner's office, asking for more info and publicity in this case.

 

[Romulus]

Yesterday I send again an E-mail about it to the coroner's office, asking for more info and publicity in this case.

Ok thanks! Write the response of this email ok?

 

[Bit of hope]

Of course I will....I did already twice before, the first one somewhere in December last year....(and off course who am I? and they have busy schedules) but they ask all the time to give feedback and ask questions on the coroners office site...looking accessible, transparent and open for contact with the public.....but you don't even get an automatically generated message that your mail is received in good order..etc.