CA CA- Lucien Vink, 51, last seen carrying a backpack, San Clemente near Camino Forestal/Calle Precipicio, left note, 6 July, 2025, *'Critical.'*

[hollyhocker]

Lucien was an active member of The Juicebox Podcast. They recently posted an article about him and included a message he personally wrote.
Seems like he had been active and optimistic in the Type 1 Diabetes community, reporting a dramatic A1c improvement from 12% to 5.3%, writing that he felt “more bold” and in control of his health.
MISSING PERSON — JUICEBOXPODCAST.com

 

[MyJoey]

Not necessarily. My friend’s husband recently killed himself and she got his life insurance payout because the policy was over 2 years old.

That’s what I thought, as long as the policy is in place awhile insurance does pay.

 

[Dreamcherry]

We can all remember patients that we took care of and people who we knew experiencing psychosis. My experience as an RN taking care of newly diagnosed insulin dependent individuals presenting with extremely high or low glucose levels ( possibly diabetic psychosis), individuals may exhibit disorganized speech and thought patterns, making it challenging to communicate coherently. The inclusion of really high or really low blood sugar levels make it extremely difficult to physically function let alone feel up to dealing with the effects on mental processing. Long-term insulin dependent individuals may be more equipped to handle extreme fluctuations in blood sugar levels.

You are absolutely correct! I was so focused on the "psychosis" part that I forgot about the diabetes aspect completely. We do learn in first aid that that a diabetic emergency can appear like the person is highly intoxicated, so not comparable to psychosis at all. Thanks for pointing that out!

 

[Dreamcherry]

I believe glucose psychosis and psychosis present differently

Yes they do. That's my bad, doing too many things at once and not focusing as usual!

 

[GraceG]

Not necessarily. My friend’s husband recently killed himself and she got his life insurance payout because the policy was over 2 years old.

Thanks! I didn't realize the 2 year stipulation providing for benefits after that time was standard. I always thought you were just out of luck with most policies (there were a couple of suicide by small aircraft investigations I worked on where the person made it look like an "accident" instead of a deliberate crash because of the wish for the life insurance to be paid out). For anyone interested, I found a little info on it here. https://namimn.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/48/2021/06/Life-Insurance-Fact-Sheet-6.1.18.sa_.pdf

 

[hollyhocker]

This is correct, most life insurance companies have a clause for suicide that they will pay out if the suicide is more than 2 years from when the policy was written.

What if they never find him? How does that work out? Would insurance still pay out?

 

[dotr]

Just a thought, but any chance prior to disappearing, that LV might have purchased doubles of the important items he left behind, like his medication, a phone, etc? speculation.

 

[MyJoey]

What if they never find him? How does that work out? Would insurance still pay out?

Think it’s like so many years and you can declare him dead. I want to say 7 years but could be wrong.

 

[Iamlost30]

Yes they do. That's my bad, doing too many things at once and not focusing as usual!

I think you offer great insight! Don't sell yourself short! I like learning from everyone. I genuinely appreciate another's point of view.

 

[Iamlost30]

Just a thought, but any chance prior to disappearing, that LV might have purchased doubles of the important items he left behind, like his medication, a phone, etc? speculation.

You are absolutely correct! Although his devices to assist with blood sugar control would be a better choice, he definitely could purchase a glucometer to measure his blood sugar, and insulin(s) to cover the glucose level. He also could have purchased a burner phone.

 

[GraceG]

Think it’s like so many years and you can declare him dead. I want to say 7 years but could be wrong.

It's generally seven years (common law) but each state (jurisdiction) may have it's own requirement and can also be different if the federal government is involved (i.e. military personnel missing in action). I've seen it done in as little as a year when the person presumed dead had been exposed to "imminent peril" and failed to return (i.e. plane crash in remote area where there was evidence the plane went down but no wreckage found.) In that particular case the court assumed the person was killed, even though the usual waiting time to declare someone dead had not elapsed

 

[Iamlost30]

Just a thought, but any chance prior to disappearing, that LV might have purchased doubles of the important items he left behind, like his medication, a phone, etc? speculation.

Agree 100%

 

[Soulmagent]

Just a thought, but any chance prior to disappearing, that LV might have purchased doubles of the important items he left behind, like his medication, a phone, etc? speculation.

Time for forensic accounting for the household.
I mean I hate to think all the sus' things I think ,but I thought them.

 

[hollyhocker]

Time for forensic accounting for the household.
I mean I hate to think all the sus' things I think ,but I thought them.

I totally agree. I thought them too.

 

[Taffy550]

Update? Nothing

 

[Soulmagent]

Update? Nothing

No phone no wallet no car and walked into the woods...almost five weeks ago..nope
But here a few inks. nothing new.

No sign of 51-year-old ‘critical’ missing person in San Clemente, California


juiceboxpodcast is mentioning him cant post the link . It has a post made by him posted on there from before he went missing .

 

[Taffy550]

No phone no wallet no car and walked into the woods...almost five weeks ago..nope
But here a few inks. nothing new.

No sign of 51-year-old ‘critical’ missing person in San Clemente, California


juiceboxpodcast is mentioning him cant post the link . It has a post made by him posted on there from before he went missing .

Thank you.

 

[hollyhocker]

No phone no wallet no car and walked into the woods...almost five weeks ago..nope
But here a few inks. nothing new.

No sign of 51-year-old ‘critical’ missing person in San Clemente, California


juiceboxpodcast is mentioning him cant post the link . It has a post made by him posted on there from before he went missing .

I posted about this earlier. Here is the link to the Juicebox podcast blog about Lucien.

Lucien was an active member of The Juicebox Podcast. They recently posted an article about him and included a message he personally wrote.
Seems like he had been active and optimistic in the Type 1 Diabetes community, reporting a dramatic A1c improvement from 12% to 5.3%, writing that he felt “more bold” and in control of his health.
MISSING PERSON — JUICEBOXPODCAST.com

 

[Iamlost30]

Update? Nothing

Very frustrating! The family is guarded with the information that they share with everyone online. I understand there may be some delicate information in his note, but just getting ' He was sorry and loved us" is not enough information to allow for examining proper channels to further the investigation( for those of us who are trying to help).

 

[Iamlost30]

Time for forensic accounting for the household.
I mean I hate to think all the sus' things I think ,but I thought them.

Unfortunately, we are not privy to finding out more information on items (on the timeline )that require further investigation and conversations.