CA - Malibu Creek State Park Shooting, Tristan Beaudette, 35, 22 June 2018 *Arrest* #2

[gitana1]

Just what I said in my earlier post, about the campground being visible from a lot of higher areas within reach of a high-powered rifle. Obviously if the murder weapon isn't a high-powered rifle, that would change my opinion

I don't necessarily think that it did happen. Only that it could have. We don't have enough information to say anything definitively.

CA-Mystery Surrounds Malibu Creek State Park Shooting Death Of Tristan Beaudette, 35 #2

True. We don't. So he would've had to have been backlit for it to be a hit, right? From a distance?

 

[carbuff]

True. We don't. So he would've had to have been backlit for it to be a hit, right? From a distance?

Yeah. I was thinking wearing a headlamp to get to the bathroom, or turning on his cell phone to check his mail, or something.

It seems a bit far fetched, but so does everything else.

 

[Lizzack1]

Nothing for the July 2017 incident either. I think they only lodge certain kinds. Search Results (Incidents) | Gun Violence Archive

Interesting...sorry it was a dead end. But could be useful in future sleuthing!

 

[Parks]

Yes, it’s possible it was a hit for reasons that happened prior to the trip, but why? If someone was going to murder him, why would they go to a full campsite with potential witnesses, hike in since the park gate closes at 10 and shoot him from long distance through a tent. That alone is leaving a lot up to chance. It seems that someone who was convinced to murder would want the death of said target to have more secure parameters. Like could they not have followed this guy and shot him from a distance from a plethora of areas that would’ve been less risky and easier? Driveway, parking garage, leaving the pharmacy, the barber... wherever? I truly feel that this is random (and perhaps not intentional) or for some reason, someone at the campsite or close to it was pissed off and acted outed of anger. I really do not feel calculated stalking that led to murder.

 

[bluesneakers]

Yeah. I was thinking wearing a headlamp to get to the bathroom, or turning on his cell phone to check his mail, or something.

It seems a bit far fetched, but so does everything else.

Checking a cell-phone or using a headlamp aren't far-fetched though. Either could provide just enough light.

 

[carbuff]

Checking a cell-phone or using a headlamp aren't far-fetched though. Either could provide just enough light.

True, but you'd have to wait somewhere, and there wouldn't be any guarantee he'd do either.

 

[gitana1]

Yeah. I was thinking wearing a headlamp to get to the bathroom, or turning on his cell phone to check his mail, or something.

It seems a bit far fetched, but so does everything else.

Well I don't think that's far fetched as far as being backlit. Because anyone who camps knows that happens. You can see people outlined if they turn on a light.

But that means someone was waiting all night with a high-powered rifle or something for him to turn on a light in the tent, right?

I mean that part seems less probable than someone who has tracked him or knows he is there who creeps up, opens the tent and shoots him dead.

Of course if someone does that they also have to either have a light so they can see him to target him, and be more likely to be seen, or have night vision.

One thing for me points to this being more possibly a hit- he was shot in the head.

If this was a random guy taking potshots, what are the odds of being that accurate? What are the odds of actually striking someone in the head and killing them? Probability wise (and I'm bad at math, so not sure), if it was a pot shooter type who just liked to scare or threaten people, wouldn't the odds of an accidental or even reckless direct hit to the head be greater if there were many more shootings than 7?

And if it is a serial shooter, intending to kill, wouldn't there be more deaths?

How do these shootings compare to other cases?

 

[RickshawFan]

I don't know much about tents but if I was in one, I wouldn't want someone on the outside getting in. So, how does someone get into a tent if it's zipped from the inside? How did BIL get into the tent to find TB? And this would explain why he was shot from the outside into the tent.

The zipper on a high quality tent has two pulls, one on the inside, one on the outside. On a high quality tent, the zipper can also have two "heads".

IMO the fact that no one heard the zipper open/close may be very meaningful. Most zippers are noisy, but that tent has very robust zippers. I'll bet they're very noisy. Bzzzzzzzzz...... Someone would have heard that zipper in the dead of night.

 

[gitana1]

Interesting...sorry it was a dead end. But could be useful in future sleuthing!

Absolutely!

 

[Timekeeper65]

With so many vehicles on the roads out here, backfire is common. One just never knows.

Back-fire - Wikipedia

Or has anyone - besides myself - had a can of biscuits explode in your trunk? Run for them thar hills. Tee Hee

 

[carbuff]

Or has anyone - besides myself - had a can of biscuits explode in your trunk? Run for them thar hills. Tee Hee

Oh Lord what a mess that must have made!

 

[gitana1]

The zipper on a high quality tent has two pulls, one on the inside, one on the outside. On a high quality tent, the zipper can also have two "heads".

IMO the fact that no one heard the zipper open/close may be very meaningful. Most zippers are noisy, but that tent has very robust zippers. I'll bet they're very noisy. Bzzzzzzzzz...... Someone would have heard that zipper in the dead of night.

So it more than likely would've had to have happened from someone who didn't open it. Which makes me lean away from target and more toward weirdo.

 

[AC's Grandma]

I'm among the minority group as well. I believe it was a hit and when LE said he was shot in the tent they mean how I read their statement of the killer shooting from inside the tent. MOO

 

[gitana1]

I'm among the minority group as well. I believe it was a hit and when LE said he was shot in the tent they mean how I read their statement of the killer shooting from inside the tent. MOO

So how did the shooter gain entrance without anyone hearing the loud zipper sound?

It's super quiet at campsites like that. His BIL's tent was feet away. They both had young children so likely weren't buzzed and likely would've been more subconsciously alert for sound.

Wouldn't a murderer think it would be too risky making such a sound before shooting, alerting the occupants of the tent who might then see who was there or yell or whatever, and alerting the occupants of the other tent who would then hear the shot go off after already being awake, thus causing the shooter to be risked being seen?

I'm trying to figure this out.

 

[Parks]

Well I don't think that's far fetched as far as being backlit. Because anyone who camps knows that happens. You can see people outlined if they turn on a light.

But that means someone was waiting all night with a high-powered rifle or something for him to turn on a light in the tent, right?

I mean that part seems less probable than someone who has tracked him or knows he is there who creeps up, opens the tent and shoots him dead.

Of course if someone does that they also have to either have a light so they can see him to target him, and be more likely to be seen, or have night vision.

One thing for me points to this being more possibly a hit- he was shot in the head.

If this was a random guy taking potshots, what are the odds of being that accurate? What are the odds of actually striking someone in the head and killing them? Probability wise (and I'm bad at math, so not sure), if it was a pot shooter type who just liked to scare or threaten people, wouldn't the odds of an accidental or even reckless direct hit to the head be greater if there were many more shootings than 7?

And if it is a serial shooter, intending to kill, wouldn't there be more deaths?

How do these shootings compare to other cases?

IMO, it could’ve been someone taking pot shots or shooting up into the air and TB was just unlucky. But more likely, his tent could’ve been the target more than him. Wherever, shooter set up, the tent was the best option to “scare the hell out of somebody” and that turned out to deadly. Perhaps, because of more than one bullet being fired and TB sitting up, as a previous poster suggested. The previous shootings weren’t deadly because shooter(s) hadn’t honed their skills yet or were just thrill seeking and trying to get people to pee their pants. The series of shootings has youth written on it to me.

 

[2ysub2ysur]

Hey guys, apologies if this was posted before today (I didn't check pages 2-4 of the new thread). Did anyone see the new Facebook post today from The Local Malibu? To summarize, it says that unrelated or not, there is still a shooter or shooters out there, and the most dangerous time to be in the canyon or passing through is between 3am and 6am.


So...definitely still a threat to the public. Sounds like there was also a conference scheduled by LE yesterday but homicide dept called it off last minute.

 

[Tortoise]

True, but you'd have to wait somewhere, and there wouldn't be any guarantee he'd do either.

Shooter sent him a message to wake him up?

 

[Parks]

Shooter sent him a message to wake him up?

I’m still in the “random” boat but that is something I hadn’t thought of and would get the desired effect. Although, I’m sure LE has his phone. If they don’t, and he had it with him, that could explain the insistence that the other shootings aren’t related.

 

[gitana1]

IMO, it could’ve been someone taking pot shots or shooting up into the air and TB was just unlucky. But more likely, his tent could’ve been the target more than him. Wherever, shooter set up, the tent was the best option to “scare the hell out of somebody” and that turned out to deadly. Perhaps, because of more than one bullet being fired and TB sitting up, as a previous poster suggested. The previous shootings weren’t deadly because shooter(s) hadn’t honed their skills yet or were just thrill seeking and trying to get people to pee their pants. The series of shootings has youth written on it to me.

I always think of older dudes doing things like this but I know I'm wrong on that. So many times it turned out to be a young person and posters had instincts about that, when I did not.

 

[Jax49]

But wouldn't LE know by now if he made or received a call at that time? It would change from possibly random to definitely a targeted hit. moo