GUILTY CA - Manuel Ortega & others for gang rape of 15yo girl, Richmond, 2009

[lizzybeth]

Probably doesn't answer your question but in the Channon Christian, Christopher Newsome case there were more than one rapist. The ME was able to isolate each one's DNA and tell whether it was sperm or only semen. Two of the rapists shared the same mother.

 

[Texas Mist]

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RICHMOND, Calif., Nov. 6 (UPI) -- A San Francisco-area teenager says one of the youths who allegedly gang-raped her outside a school dance had been a trusted friend, an investigator says.

Sgt. Lori Curran of the Richmond Police Department said Thursday the 16-year-old, identified only as Jane Doe, told investigators she knew some of the other assailants casually, the San Francisco Chronicle reported.

"She did feel betrayed that the one she knew and trusted would let this happen to her," Curran said. "She had a sense of trust from the others she recognized from the neighborhood."


http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2009...rapists-had-been-a-friend/UPI-98841257536559/

 

[Columbo]

article about the charges (read some of the comments) http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/11/06/BAQ61AGCHC.DTL

This is what a friend of Elvis, the suspect, has to say. Just to give you an idea of the caliber of person these skanks hang out with...

http://highimjackie.tumblr.com/post/234075665/free-elvis-torrentes

 

[angelmom]

Are all of the families of those arrested now claiming that their sons were "just walking by" ? I thought there was only one family claiming that--the family of Marcelles (sp?) Peter. I must have missed something (?) :waitasec:

I don't know about "all". I was engaging in a bit of hyperbole after reading some of the articles where at least three of the defendants have someone denying or minimizing their involvement. Which is why I hope there is a ton of forensic evidence!


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/10/30/MNLE1ACE6J.DTL

Peter's family accused prosecutors of having racial motives. Peter is the only black suspect named in the case. Smith is white, and the other suspects are Latino.

Peter "didn't have anything to do with this," his aunt said. "He said everyone was just walking past, and he just kept moving when he saw something was going on.

"My nephew is scared," she added. "He is the one they've arrested who is black, and if they give my nephew a life sentence, I will sue Richmond. There is no way in hell I will see my nephew blamed in this because he is black." ...



Two female relatives of Ortega began to cry as he walked in. They declined to comment afterward, other than to say they didn't think he was guilty



http://www.blackamericaweb.com/?q=articles/news/the_black_diaspora_news/13841

Morales' lawyer, Ernie Castillo, said he was still learning details about the case.
"I don't know what limited role, if any, my client played," Castillo said.



http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-gang-rape6-2009nov06,0,4421957.story


Dispatcher: "Is she on the school property?"

Caller: "She's in the back by the dumpsters."

 

[angelmom]

article about the charges (read some of the comments) http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/11/06/BAQ61AGCHC.DTL

This is what a friend of Elvis, the suspect, has to say. Just to give you an idea of the caliber of person these skanks hang out with...

http://highimjackie.tumblr.com/post/234075665/free-elvis-torrentes

Nice. Add him to my list.

that stupid hoe just got what she asked for

 

[gxm]

article about the charges (read some of the comments) http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/11/06/BAQ61AGCHC.DTL

This is what a friend of Elvis, the suspect, has to say. Just to give you an idea of the caliber of person these skanks hang out with...

http://highimjackie.tumblr.com/post/234075665/free-elvis-torrentes

Disgusting. Absolutely disgusting. Too bad s/he can't be arrested and charged for being a heartless jacka$$.

Do we know yet which of the suspects was the "friend" who lured the victim into joining them?

 

[Trino]

I'm wondering why she was so anxious to please the bad boys (this was before the rape, and it must have been the ones who attended school with her)...per her counselor at school. Maybe they were the only boys who paid attention to her, and at her age, she was interested in exploring friendships with boys? That would be normal, I think--even though apparently the attention those creeps gave her (even before the rape) was rather ugly and mean. But she was too naive to realize that bad boys really can be evil ? It's all just such a pity. Because she was too compliant with them before, they saw her as a target on homecoming night. :furious:

I'm guessing you don't know much about Richmond. Good boys? IMO they would be hard to find at that school.

 

[JBean]

911 call

http://www.contracostatimes.com/bay-area-news/ci_13722180?nclick_check=1

People have passed by there, have been seeing her, but nobody wants to call the cops, so we decided to call," Margarita Vargas told the voice on the phone the night of Oct. 24.

 

[Trino]

911 call

http://www.contracostatimes.com/bay-area-news/ci_13722180?nclick_check=1

People have passed by there, have been seeing her, but nobody wants to call the cops, so we decided to call," Margarita Vargas told the voice on the phone the night of Oct. 24.

This is just great. While I applaud her for doing this, believe me, publishing her name is not a wise idea. She will receive threats, as will her brother-in-law. According to street law, she snitched.

 

[Columbo]

I don't know about "all". I was engaging in a bit of hyperbole after reading some of the articles where at least three of the defendants have someone denying or minimizing their involvement. Which is why I hope there is a ton of forensic evidence!


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/10/30/MNLE1ACE6J.DTL

Peter's family accused prosecutors of having racial motives. Peter is the only black suspect named in the case. Smith is white, and the other suspects are Latino.

Peter "didn't have anything to do with this," his aunt said. "He said everyone was just walking past, and he just kept moving when he saw something was going on.

"My nephew is scared," she added. "He is the one they've arrested who is black, and if they give my nephew a life sentence, I will sue Richmond. There is no way in hell I will see my nephew blamed in this because he is black." ...



Two female relatives of Ortega began to cry as he walked in. They declined to comment afterward, other than to say they didn't think he was guilty



http://www.blackamericaweb.com/?q=articles/news/the_black_diaspora_news/13841

Morales' lawyer, Ernie Castillo, said he was still learning details about the case.
"I don't know what limited role, if any, my client played," Castillo said.



http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-gang-rape6-2009nov06,0,4421957.story


Dispatcher: "Is she on the school property?"

Caller: "She's in the back by the dumpsters."

Thanks, angelmom! I hadn't read about the relatives at the hearing. You are right. Not hyperbole.

 

[Columbo]

I'm guessing you don't know much about Richmond. Good boys? IMO they would be hard to find at that school.

I know a lot about Richmond but not about the students at RHS. I just hope that these evil ones are in the minority. A tiny minority.

 

[Columbo]

This is just great. While I applaud her for doing this, believe me, publishing her name is not a wise idea. She will receive threats, as will her brother-in-law. According to street law, she snitched.

I worry about her, too. There have been some nasty threats against the "snitches" posted on facebook or myspace or whatever...I wish she would have remained anonymous. She certainly is brave and moral.

 

[Columbo]

Nice. Add him to my list.

that stupid hoe just got what she asked for

Isn't that horrible? They don't even seem like human beings. What are they?

 

[Columbo]

Disgusting. Absolutely disgusting. Too bad s/he can't be arrested and charged for being a heartless jacka$$.

Do we know yet which of the suspects was the "friend" who lured the victim into joining them?

bolded by me.

Yes--it was a 15 year old, Cory Smith. I think he turned himself in and was the first one under arrest.

 

[Texas Mist]

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Posted: 12:45 pm PST November 11, 2009
Updated: 1:37 pm PST November 11, 2009

RICHMOND, Calif. -- The 21-year-old Richmond man who was arrested and then released in the homecoming gang rape case said Wednesday he was only trying to help the 16-year-old victim during the attack and tried to stop her attackers.

In his first television interview, Salvador Rodriguez told KTVU he was fearful of coming forward, but wanted to reveal the details of what happened in the darkened alley near Richmond High so the community would no longer look upon him as a “monster.”

“All I want is my name back,” Rodriguez told KTVU. “I want my life back. I want to be looked at as someone who tries to help, if someone needs help-- that I would give them the t-shirt off my back to help them out. And not, ‘Oh yeah, he’s a monster. He’ll strike again.'”

Rodriguez said he feared repercussions for speaking out. While he would not identify the six suspects charged in the case as gang members, he said the men associate with known gang members.

“I think about it (being the victim of retaliation) every single day,” he said. “I’m not scared of the case, I’m scared of the people.”

much more here

http://www.ktvu.com/news/21586679/detail.html

 

[Columbo]

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Posted: 12:45 pm PST November 11, 2009
Updated: 1:37 pm PST November 11, 2009

RICHMOND, Calif. -- The 21-year-old Richmond man who was arrested and then released in the homecoming gang rape case said Wednesday he was only trying to help the 16-year-old victim during the attack and tried to stop her attackers.

In his first television interview, Salvador Rodriguez told KTVU he was fearful of coming forward, but wanted to reveal the details of what happened in the darkened alley near Richmond High so the community would no longer look upon him as a “monster.”

“All I want is my name back,” Rodriguez told KTVU. “I want my life back. I want to be looked at as someone who tries to help, if someone needs help-- that I would give them the t-shirt off my back to help them out. And not, ‘Oh yeah, he’s a monster. He’ll strike again.'”

Rodriguez said he feared repercussions for speaking out. While he would not identify the six suspects charged in the case as gang members, he said the men associate with known gang members.

“I think about it (being the victim of retaliation) every single day,” he said. “I’m not scared of the case, I’m scared of the people.”

much more here

http://www.ktvu.com/news/21586679/detail.html

There are some questions about his story. He claims that he found her naked and she was frightened of him, but he told her he wasn't going to hurt her; then he put his shirt on her. The police say they didn't find this shirt.

I question his story, too. The police found her naked and comatose--she couldn't possibly have responded in any way to this young man.

http://www.contracostatimes.com/top-stories/ci_13757135

 

[angelmom]

http://www.contracostatimes.com/top-stories/ci_13757135?nclick_check=1

More than 60 people, many of them teens supporting the defendants, watched the latest court appearance for Cody Ray Smith, 15, of San Pablo; Ari Morales, 16, of San Pablo; Marcelles Peter, 17, of Pinole; Jose Carlos Montano, 18, of Richmond; Manuel Ortega, 19, of Richmond; and Elvis Josue Torrentes, 21, of Richmond. Prosecutors said the brutality of the crime led them to charge the juvenile suspects as adults.

BBM...I'm going to stick with my theory that there is really something wrong with this whole community until I am proven otherwise.

They don't want to be called animals? Then don't defend this waste of air! How about supporting the victim!

:furious::furious::furious:

 

[Trino]

http://www.dailynews.com/opinions/ci_13695043?source=rss

LA Times article about the emphasis upon raising test scores vs. teaching moral values.

 

[Columbo]

http://www.dailynews.com/opinions/ci_13695043?source=rss

Good LA Times article about the emphasis upon raising test scores vs. teaching moral values.

bolded by me.

Where did the writer of this L.A. Times article get the information that school employees observed this girl being raped and ignored it? I don't think that is true.

 

[Columbo]

http://www.contracostatimes.com/top-stories/ci_13757135?nclick_check=1

More than 60 people, many of them teens supporting the defendants, watched the latest court appearance for Cody Ray Smith, 15, of San Pablo; Ari Morales, 16, of San Pablo; Marcelles Peter, 17, of Pinole; Jose Carlos Montano, 18, of Richmond; Manuel Ortega, 19, of Richmond; and Elvis Josue Torrentes, 21, of Richmond. Prosecutors said the brutality of the crime led them to charge the juvenile suspects as adults.

BBM...I'm going to stick with my theory that there is really something wrong with this whole community until I am proven otherwise.

They don't want to be called animals? Then don't defend this waste of air! How about supporting the victim!

:furious::furious::furious:

Angelmom, I don't know how many teens were supporting these idiots, but the whole community is NOT like them. Unfortunately they are terrorists, domestic terrorists, who are trying to ruin and destroy everything in their paths. They create a lot of havoc.