GUILTY CA - Maribel Manriquez Ramos, 36, Fullerton, 2 May 2013

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Just went outside to get the morning paper...

Maribel's case is on the front page of the OC Register!

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

OC Register
May 17, 2013

Roommate Arrested in Missing Veteran's Death

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/body-508893-area-police.html

"Friday's arrest isn't the first run-in Joy has had with the law.

Public records show Joy lived in Tennessee before moving to Orange County. In January, Joy reportedly made verbal threats to his sister in Knox County, Tenn.

It was Jan. 26, when Joy's sister called police from her Knox County home and said Joy left her a voicemail, threaten he was going to "shoot her in the head and cut up her body," a Knox County report said.

Joy's sister said they were involved in a civil dispute over money, the Knox County report said."


"Joy had been living with Ramos for at least a year, Joy said, after she responded to his notice on Craigslist.org seeking a roommate."

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Volatile perp, this guy is!

Much more at link above....

 

[Ragamuffin]

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-maribel-ramos-slaying-20130518,0,3465443.story

An interesting comment on this story. It would certainly indicate that the motive was not sexual in nature, and perhaps more to do with the moving out conversation KCJ said he had with Maribel? Of course, I cannot say whether the person who left the comment is stating a know fact.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Interesting article...

Seems KC let quite a technological "footprint"!

Warning... some comments below article are fairly rude... :facepalm:

:http://www.vice.com/read/did-a-murderer-just-give-himself-away-on-yelp

Vice Beta

Did a Murderer Just Give Himself Away on Yelp?

 

[Wolf Dreamer]

First court appearance

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/orange_county&id=9111225

Prosecutors allege Joy got into a fight with Ramos after she told him to move out because he wasn't paying the rent. Authorities suspect there could also be another motive.

"He may have been infatuated with her and I don't know if that was necessarily mutual," said prosecutor Scott Simmons.

I wonder if that infatuation was more family than sexual? He is quoted as saying Maribel was his only family when she was still missing but he does seem to have family in the US that he no longer talks to. If he was obsessed with Maribel as his "family" and she rejected him it could have triggered this.

 

[Wolf Dreamer]

More articles, no COD yet

http://www.scpr.org/news/2013/05/21/37352/orange-county-prosecutors-say-rent-dispute-led-to/

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/cri...-missing-calif-army-veteran-article-1.1348491

The shocking twist has left Ramos’ friends and family reeling.

“I’m gonna miss her a lot,” Ramos’ younger sister, Lucy Gonzalez, told KNBC-TV in Los Angeles. “I can’t even explain to you the pain and the anger, but God got me through it.”

 

[OkieGranny]

http://ranchosantamargarita.patch.c...sition-at-library-led-detectives-to-body55716

A man implicated himself in his roommate's murder through his use of a public library computer that led detectives to the body, a prosecutor said today, but a defense attorney argued the evidence just as likely could show the Iraq War veteran's death could have been a suicide or accidental...

Police questioned Joy about 10 times, but investigators were stumped about the victim's whereabouts until the defendant, who did not have Internet access, was monitored using a public library's computer to search for information on how long it takes for a body to decompose, Simmons said...

An investigator monitoring Joy's web browsing May 16 last year "got a break" when he saw the suspect had read an article online about a planned search for Ramos, which led Joy to look for a satellite image of the site where the body was later found, Simmons said. Within 45 minutes, police found Ramos' body.

 

[OkieGranny]

http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/2014/07/kwang_choi_joy_maribel_ramos.php

At the opening of Kwang Chol "K.C." Joy's murder trial Monday, the prosecution and defense agreed on one thing: the 55-year-old last year dumped the dead body of his former roommate, Iraq War veteran Maribel Manriquez Ramos...

As related by City News Service courtroom reporter Paul Anderson, jurors Monday heard a 9-1-1 call from April 21, 2013, when a distraught Ramos told a dispatcher how a recent conversation with Joy had frightened her so much that she slept with a machete at arm's length.

 

[bflocket]

This link is a little older than the past few posted, but it had a few things that I had not noted from the latest ones. I will be the first to admit that I have the habit of part-reading, part-skimming, so I apologize if these have been touched on.

-It mentions that Joy had feelings for Ramos that weren't returned
-Joy says that his suicide would be the best proof if it turned out that he'd harmed her (as he's still with us)
-He replies "Hell, no" when asked if he killed Ramos

http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/2013/05/kc_joy_maribel_ramos_murder.php

 

[OkieGranny]

http://ranchosantamargarita.patch.c...ne-could-says-prosecutor-about-murder-suspect

The prosecutor argued Joy's Internet activity showed "consciousness of guilt," allowing for a conviction of first-degree murder.

While Ramos' friends and family and police were frantically searching for the missing Iraq War veteran, who disappeared just days before she was about to graduate with a bachelor's degree from Cal State Fullerton, Joy did interviews with television news reporters, Simmons said.

"The defendant made a conscious decision to lie to police and the media, claiming he had no idea what happened to Maribel over and over again," Simmons said. "And all the time he knows he buried her after murdering her... What kind of person does that? A cold-blooded person."

 

[zwiebel]

There's a verdict. But don't know what it is yet!

Infuriating. Still not revealed.

http://ktla.com/2014/07/23/verdict-reached-in-murder-trial-of-roommate-over-death-of-maribel-ramos/

 

[zwiebel]

How do they know a verdict's been reached if they don't know what it is yet?

 

[zwiebel]

Ha. It's only noon. An Hour and half to go then. Bet they broke for lunch.

'The verdict was expected to be read at 1:30 p.m.'

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/l...269084251.html?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_LABrand

 

[Jewels53]

Ha. It's only noon. An Hour and half to go then. Bet they broke for lunch.

'The verdict was expected to be read at 1:30 p.m.'

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/l...269084251.html?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_LABrand

That is because they will announce a verdict has been reached and then come back after lunch and actually read the verdict. imo

 

[zwiebel]

Christina Gonzalez is at court right now. So she may tweet the verdict first.

It's going to be guilty, isn't it?

https://mobile.twitter.com/cgfox11

 

[zwiebel]

'Gang injunction delayed. Now at verdict for Kwang Joy, accused of killing roommate Maribel Ramos, college studen & served in Iraq).'
@myfoxla

 

[zwiebel]

Guilty!

http://ktla.com/2014/07/23/verdict-reached-in-murder-trial-of-roommate-over-death-of-maribel-ramos/

 

[zwiebel]

He'll get 25 yrs to life. Guessing as it's felony murder, it'll be nearer life than 25 years?

This guy virtually TOLD police where he had dumped Maribel's body, because of the online searches he carried out.

 

[zwiebel]

OC Weekly says sentencing is due September 12th.

http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/2014/07/kwang_chol_joy_maribel_ramos_closing_argument.php

 

[teedie2]

Hadn't seen this thread until today, and really wish that I had missed it altogether. Maribel Ramos is a real loss to her community, to everyone. I think we really do become less ourselves when someone is murdered. It's pretty depressing sometimes. Hopefully he won't last as long as his sentence does.

Maribel seemed such a worthy person, my sympathy and condolences to her family.