CA - Massive fire at Oakland warehouse party, 36 dead, 2 Dec 2016 #1

[Thyme]

^ Exactly CARIIS. This is my thoughts as well. A pile of junk retrieved from dumpsters... I could not locate any what I would consider art in any of the photos. After reading some of this Derick characters outlandish rants I have come to the conclusion he is a nutjob. moo

 

[CARIIS]

Firefox

when they are describing this as 30% done I am confused. I am visual and not making light of any of this horror.

In my head I see a three layer cake

roof on second floor
second floor
roof and second floor on first floor
and first floor

it seems like if you are like slicing through all levels at a time you risk the other stuff falling on top if you try to take three layers at once.

so are they going through all across roof on second floor first

then second floor

then digging down to first floor??

local news he stole electric from the auto store next door

he was receiving stolen property



all local news he is in hiding
he made tenants build their own places to shower

what a daddy role model

once i heard about cps involvement that's why they in hotel -- only way yo get kids back

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

I, for one am glad you did

:hug:

Me too, thanks waitin'

 

[Bravo]

I'm late coming upon this tragic news. Is there any more word on Gitana's family member? Is it a sister in law? TIA And, Praying.

Yes SIL. I am awaiting official confirmation but it does not look good. Yet we hope and pray.
ETA- I have stopped thanking as my thank button is wonky. Still here and thanks all.

 

[neesaki]

Yes SIL. I am awaiting official confirmation but it does not look good. Yet we hope and pray.
ETA- I have stopped thanking as my thank button is wonky. Still here and thanks all.

Thank you so much, Bravo. Yes, praying.

 

[LinasK]

Under the details section of the event page on Facebook, which they've renamed "Memorial Page for Oakland Fire", there are a bunch of names. One of the hosts would have had to put this on there. I'm wondering if they have been confirmed...

Details

REST IN PEACE ANGELS
IN AN EFFORT TO KEEP THIS STREAMLINED FOR SAFETY AND THE WELL BEING OF THE COMMUNITY - WE WILL BE MONITORING AND DELETING TROLL/ NEGATIVE POSTS
**********************************************************************************************************************************************************
Chelsea Faith Dolan
Barrett Clark
Peter wadsworth
Nicholas Walrath
Feral Pines aka J. Fritz
Ara Christina Jo
Ben Runnels
Jennifer Kiyomi Tanouye
Cash Askew
Alex Ghassan
Hanna Ruax
Jonathan Bernbaum
David T Cline
Johan Handel
Alana Kane
Micah Danemayer
Jason MCarty
Johnny Igaz
Chase aka Nex Iguolo
Griffin Madden
Amanda Kershaw
Denalda Nicole Renae aka Nicole Siegrist
Travis Hough
Joey Casio
William Dixon
Wolfgang Renner
Michelle Sylvan
Em B

No, because I don't think Gitana has received word on her SIL and she's on that list. Gitana did tell me that they've provided DNA.Plus that's only 28 names and they have 33 bodies now and probably will be more. I went out for awhile and just came back to the news on and found a couple of interesting tidbits- the warehouse was stealing electricity from the auto body shop next door, and Derick was on probation for receiving stolen goods.

 

[Bravo]

I stand corrected. My thanks button works randomly! Lordy! I will keep trying. Randomly.

 

[LaborOfLobe]

It's not my intention to start a discussion about what I am about to post because that wouldn't be appropriate, and it might not even be appropriate for me to post the following, in the first place, but I know there are members here who are truly anguished contemplating this tragedy.

This is what helps me. My mind (and I'm probably not alone) naturally goes to what the deceased might or must have experienced before they left this world under circumstances such as these, and it is too much to contemplate. Just plain too much.

This is what I have to think in order to get by: if angels really exist (who knows, but it would be cool if they did---and references to them are all around in popular culture and merchandise, not to mention in ancient culture), they are NOT going to sit idly by and just watch this stuff happen. They are going to usher the souls of the departing ones out and spare their consciousness most of the horrors. That would be the definition of mercy. If there was ever a time for mercy, this would be it.

We all believe/don't different things, but if you can find something that works for you like my angels-to-the-rescue works for me, pull it out and plug it in--because the unfathomable is all around us and it leaves us wondering what in the world to think.

If this helps anybody, it will be worth me getting up the guts to write it. :/

Thank you for posting this! It's beautiful and I absolutely agree with you about angels. :heartbeat:

 

[CARIIS]

These guys are doing tremendous nuance to this disaster.

http://www.ktvu.com/live

 

[CARIIS]

Is there gonna be another presser this evening - what time EST if so

TIA

 

[LinasK]

I think Gitana is at the Sheriff's Center and people are bringing her messages of love and support.

 

[LinasK]

Is there gonna be another presser this evening - what time EST if so

TIA

Haven't heard

 

[CARIIS]

I think Gitana is at the Sheriff's Center and people are bringing her messages of love and support.

dO YOU KNOW IF SHE IS WITH HER BROTHER??

 

[CARIIS]

This is gonna turn into the Ghostship warehouse fire. I do not like that name moo

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

no, because i don't think gitana has received word on her sil and she's on that list. Gitana did tell me that they've provided dna.plus that's only 28 names and they have 33 bodies now and probably will be more. I went out for awhile and just came back to the news on and found a couple of interesting tidbits- the warehouse was stealing electricity from the auto body shop next door, and derick was on probation for receiving stolen goods.

omg!!!

ETA: he was pulling in up to 30k per month from tenants and had to "piggy back" electricity from the business next door? I'm sure he didn't "have" to but was apparently too cheap to pay like the rest of us. Receiving stolen goods, scamming electricity.....Good Lord, what else is going to be uncovered.

 

[LinasK]

dO YOU KNOW IF SHE IS WITH HER BROTHER??

Last night her brother and mother were with her. I'm assuming they are still together.

 

[CARIIS]

omg!!!

he becomes more repulsive with every passing minute

while carrying on on YT about all this earthy junk just ugh

 

[LinasK]

This is gonna turn into the Ghostship warehouse fire. I do not like that name moo

That occurred to me earlier- literal ghosts because these souls got trapped there. Horrifying.

 

[LinasK]

he becomes more repulsive with every passing minute

while carrying on on YT about all this earthy junk just ugh

I know! This guy Derick's greed and selfishness knows no bounds.

 

[skibaboo]

Firefox

when they are describing this as 30% done I am confused. I am visual and not making light of any of this horror.

In my head I see a three layer cake

roof on second floor
second floor
roof and second floor on first floor
and first floor

it seems like if you are like slicing through all levels at a time you risk the other stuff falling on top if you try to take three layers at once.

so are they going through all across roof on second floor first

then second floor

then digging down to first floor??

local news he stole electric from the auto store next door

he was receiving stolen property



all local news he is in hiding
he made tenants build their own places to shower

what a daddy role model

once i heard about cps involvement that's why they in hotel -- only way yo get kids back

At the presser one of the reporters asked how they were searching the warehouse and the spokesperson tried to explain. He tried his best to describe it, what he said (paraphrasing) is if you imagine looking at the warehouse from above it's a big square, and they've didived into 4 quadrants. They have a team for each quadrant. He said victims have been found in all 4 quadrants, they aren't all together and they are finding victims in places you wouldn't expect.

To me this sounds like its all come down and they are working through it downwards. I know the roof is gone, I heard that.

BBM: I read that too