CA CA - Matthew Weaver, 21, Santa Monica Mountains, 10 Aug 2018

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The family has expressed on many occasions that LE isnt doing enough and that there has been little to no media covering Matt's disappearance. Theres alot of talk going around about how this case is not getting much attention because of where it has been said to have happened. This is a popular site for locals to visit. People hike, bike, hang out, its considered safe. From my experience, the San Fernando Valley prefers to keep its actual crime statistics on a hush. Basically, things are covered up in attempt to keep the area highly desired for locals and visitors.
I used to work in Woodland Hills, next to the Westfield Shopping Center, across the street from Warner Park. I recall a shooting of a transient roughly 4-5 years ago in that park and not one bit of coverage ever aired in regards to it. They didnt want anyone to fear coming to this park as it was where many events took place all year long, most notably, Summer concerts on the green and a huge firework show on the 4th. People come from all over to shop the mall and/or attend these free park events. Its wrong to withhold this kind of information to the public. I know i wouldnt want to visit a place where people are being shot, hurt, abducted.
 
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Doesn’t that TX Equusearch group assist missing cases all over, not just in TX? Matthew’s family should try contacting them. I believe I’ve seen many on WS give high praise for the organization for their expertise and professionalism.

Also, I recall reading on the 🤬🤬🤬 early on that the family hired a private investigator. But subsequent updates seemed to say they had nothing new to report, and never mentioned PI again so I guess the PI wasn’t able to find out anything of value?

I have read some really wonderful praise for the Texas EquuSearch group. I believe they will travel to assist with searches. However don't think that a horse-based search is even possible on the slopes of the Santa Monica mountains because (1) it's covered in brush & small trees that's 5-7 feet tall; (2) the slopes are way to steep for horse travel. Now horses can travel some trails in the Santa Monicas -- and I've seen the droppings they leave as evidence. But the 3 trails that lead up to the overlook where Stunt Road, Saddle Peak, and Scheurn roads converge are probably not safe trails for horses -- I know one of them definitely is not. Besides - as I've mentioned in another post - two of the three trails receive regular use from hikers so I don't think it would make sense to ask a group to travel half way across the country when those trails can be covered by locals on foot.
 
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modsnip/ not verified information.

Thanks for the info that Mr. Weaver knew the area MalibuBarbie79. I have read that the car was found at the Rosas lookout which implies to me that it was driven up to the end of the trail. That may not be the case. That may have been an inadvertent misstatement and the truth is the car was just found at some point along the dirt road between the end of the asphalt and the lookout itself. After walking the entire fire road/trail on 9/11/18 I find it pretty incredible that someone could drive any basic car all the way to the end. (Edited: right after posting this I see another post from MalibuBarbie79 that confirms the car was somehow driven to the very end of the road/trail. My hat's off to whoever did that . . . . maybe magic or a Star Trek transporter was involved .. ha ha)
 
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Modnote / not a verified insider!

Hi MalibuBarbie79. It seems you're an insider so I'm hoping you can answer some of these questions.

- When is the last time family/friends actually heard from or saw Matthew? Did he work the day he went missing?
- Were his phone records obtained, and was an attempt made to locate his phone via pings?
- When was payday, and is there any money missing from his account?
- Did he have any issues with coworkers or roommates?

Thank you!
 
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Can you tell us why he frequented that area?

Topanga is nowhere near Simi Valley, where he was from and last seen. It's 25-30 miles and in a different direction than his home in Granada Hills. It's not on the way home at all.



It was never in Lost Hills or LASD jurisdiction though. I know there were statements from Lost Hills and the media asked Lost Hills for comment but this wasn't their case. I thought that might have accounted for some of the inaccuracies.

When a person goes missing in Los Angeles County, the case goes to the area division in which that person lived. MW lived in Granada Hills, which is an LAPD jurisdiction. Topanga is LAPD. Simi Valley, where MW's family lives and he lived until very recently, has its own independent police force.

In other similar cases with LASD and LAPD, there seems to be a lack of will on the part of an area division to pursue a case that's largely based far beyond that area.


I think there's an [inadvertant] typo in this comment Passpartout: the Topanga area (along with Calabasas and Malibu) is under the jurisdiction of the LA Sheriff (LASD) not LAPD. Simi Valley - of course - is Ventura County.
 
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Thanks for the info that Mr. Weaver knew the area MalibuBarbie79. I have read that the car was found at the Rosas lookout which implies to me that it was driven up to the end of the trail. That may not be the case. That may have been an inadvertent misstatement and the truth is the car was just found at some point along the dirt road between the end of the asphalt and the lookout itself. After walking the entire fire road/trail on 9/11/18 I find it pretty incredible that someone could drive any basic car all the way to the end. (Edited: right after posting this I see another post from MalibuBarbie79 that confirms the car was somehow driven to the very end of the road/trail. My hat's off to whoever did that . . . . maybe magic or a Star Trek transporter was involved .. ha ha)

Yes, how was this even possible? Im completely baffled on how the car ended up where it did. I dont think anyone in their right state of mind would attempt this. Which makes me wonder if whomever drove the car there was panicked and trying to flee someone or something, or if they were not mentally capable of making rational decisions. Magic seems plausible at this point.
 
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I think there's an [inadvertant] typo in this comment Passpartout: the Topanga area (along with Calabasas and Malibu) is under the jurisdiction of the LA Sheriff (LASD) not LAPD. Simi Valley - of course - is Ventura County.

The Topanga area is actually split between the two.

ETA: Just another layer - IIRC, CHP patrols Topanga but not Malibu as LASD handles that there. CHP was on scene when the MW vehicle was discovered.
 
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The Local Malibu produced this article *modsnip*:

Malibu Mountain Mysteries Continue: Human Remains Found and Cover(ed) Up Seems to be the Theme - The Local Malibu

This article was updated on September 10th at 7:38 a.m.

By Cece Woods, Editor in Chief

Area residents woke up to more startling news last Wednesday when major media outlets dispatched helicopters to broadcast live aerial footage of skeletal remains found on a hiking trail at the base of the Santa Mountains.

Lost Hills Sheriffs Department arrived at the scene after a CalTrans worker discovered the remains off trail at the Juan Bautista de Anza Trailhead at the end of Calabasas Rd. September 5th.

AERIAL FOOTAGE OF OFFICERS ON SCENE POINTING TO THE AREA WHERE SKELETAL REMAINS WERE FOUND OFF TRAIL AT THE BASE OF THE SANTA MONICA MOUNTAINS ON SEPTEMBER 5TH.

This has been a scary summer for Malibu Canyon residents and the general public who frequent the area, as a series of serious crimes have been committed, bringing to light an even more serious public safety issue. And it appears that law enforcement knows a lot more than they are telling us.

The murder of Tristan Beaudette at Malibu Creek State Park was a wake up call for the community surrounding the park, as well as the discovery of multiple victims who came forth after hearing of Beaudette’s murder, exposing a cover-up of multiple shooting incidents dating back to 2016.

Since then, additional violent crimes have occurred in the area, including two body dumps that appear to be gang affiliated hits, multiple missing persons cases, and more…

And now the skeletal remains found September 5th. Another case investigators are – supposedly – working on in this high profile area.

Why do I say “supposedly“?

Keep reading.

<modsnip: snipped to comply with 10% copyright rule>
 
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  • #130
http://thelocalmalibu.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/matthew-weaver-jr-flyer.jpg

The car was found at 3am according to this info. Thats a strange time to discover it.

August 10-12 was the Perseid meteor shower. It was especially spectacular in some areas because it was also near the new moon, so no moonlight to obscure the view. We couldn't see anything in New England due to heavy cloud cover, but apparently California didn't have that problem.

Anybody around at that hour might have been returning from a night's watching, or heading out to view just before sunrise, which is often a good time for meteor viewing.

Might. I have no way of knowing what they were actually doing.
 
  • #131
The car was found at 3am according to this info. Thats a strange time to discover it.

Agreed. But as the flyer says, a 911 call at approx 12 am brought LE to the area.

So it would appear to go like this:

1. citizen 911 call re: cries for help

2. LE responds to call, starts to search area

3. 3am vehicle discovered and identified as belonging to MW

4. vehicle discovery leads to discovery that MW is missing

This also means that LE and SAR were on scene for 3 hours before finding the car.
 
  • #132
Agreed. But as the flyer says, a 911 call at approx 12 am brought LE to the area.

So it would appear to go like this:

1. citizen 911 call re: cries for help

2. LE responds to call, starts to search area

3. 3am vehicle discovered and identified as belonging to MW

4. vehicle discovery leads to discovery that MW is missing

This also means that LE and SAR were on scene for 3 hours before finding the car.

No I disagree with your assumption that 3 hours elapsed before finding the car. I have zero idea how long it took for law enforcement to respond to the 911 call. Other people have posted comments on this site that it took 2 hours. I'm pretty confident that LE didn't arrive instantaneously after the 911 call came in.

As for SAR: please understand that Malibu Search & Rescue is a volunteer organization. That means volunteers from surrounding communities got some sort of call - at home - possibly while already asleep - and got up and reported to the incident in the middle of the night. I'm pretty sure their response wasn't instantaneous either. Plus: we have no idea when LE asked SAR to come out and assist with a search.
 
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Thanks for the info that Mr. Weaver knew the area MalibuBarbie79. I have read that the car was found at the Rosas lookout which implies to me that it was driven up to the end of the trail. That may not be the case. That may have been an inadvertent misstatement and the truth is the car was just found at some point along the dirt road between the end of the asphalt and the lookout itself. After walking the entire fire road/trail on 9/11/18 I find it pretty incredible that someone could drive any basic car all the way to the end. (Edited: right after posting this I see another post from MalibuBarbie79 that confirms the car was somehow driven to the very end of the road/trail. My hat's off to whoever did that . . . . maybe magic or a Star Trek transporter was involved .. ha ha)
Honestly, the thought that a helicopter or spaceship picked it up and dropped it off where it was found makes a hell of a lot more sense than Matthew or anyone else driving it there.
 
  • #134
Hi MalibuBarbie79. It seems you're an insider so I'm hoping you can answer some of these questions.

- When is the last time family/friends actually heard from or saw Matthew? Did he work the day he went missing?
- Were his phone records obtained, and was an attempt made to locate his phone via pings?
- When was payday, and is there any money missing from his account?
- Did he have any issues with coworkers or roommates?

Thank you!
No inside enough to provide that info
 
  • #135
August 10-12 was the Perseid meteor shower. It was especially spectacular in some areas because it was also near the new moon, so no moonlight to obscure the view. We couldn't see anything in New England due to heavy cloud cover, but apparently California didn't have that problem.

Anybody around at that hour might have been returning from a night's watching, or heading out to view just before sunrise, which is often a good time for meteor viewing.

Might. I have no way of knowing what they were actually doing.

I think there was a gathering for the meteor shower the following night but I could be wrong. Hey, maybe that's why Matthew went there to begin with? At this point, anything goes. Wish we knew more details in regards to his plans for that night, as well as what state of mind he was in.
 
  • #136
Nope - no goats.
This is going to sound crazy but are there mountain goats in that area? We have farm goats around here and there are times that the kids’ bleats can sound very similar to a human screaming. A friend of mine actually had LE called by a neighbor once when she was weaning because they thought she was hurt & yelling for help.
 
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No I disagree with your assumption that 3 hours elapsed before finding the car. I have zero idea how long it took for law enforcement to respond to the 911 call. Other people have posted comments on this site that it took 2 hours. I'm pretty confident that LE didn't arrive instantaneously after the 911 call came in.

The point of my post was to delineate the events leading up to the discovery that MW was missing. That - to me at least - hasn't been very clear at all from the various reports, some of which are clearly inaccurate (like that he was seen in his car by hikers or seen hiking in the area). The Local has done some good reporting yet often lacks clarity.

The car was found 3 hours after the 911 call, we can agree on that. Actually, it was about 3.30a that the car was found according to SAR. The initial 911 call -according to an error-riddled account from the Local - appears to have reported screams in the area of Stunt and Schueren.

LE probably went out to the scene before deciding to call SAR. SAR says they were there 'early Saturday morning'. We've been told that FD and CHP also heard the cries but it's unclear where they were when they heard this.

MW's family says his last Snap puts him in the area at about 10 pm. If he was last seen in Simi at approx 9.30p, that's about how long it would take him to drive to the overlook. However, without knowing the content of the snap, it's also possible that he'd uploaded it earlier, the phone lost signal on the drive to Topanga (it's spotty) and then it uploaded when it hit sufficient signal. He would not have had to be in possession of his phone (which has not been found) for this to happen. It could have been in the car and then discarded by whoever had possession of his vehicle.

The cries for help were linked to the Stunt/Saddle Peak/Schueren area by witnesses and LE. Then a search ensued and the car was found. Then it was established that MW was missing.

It's unclear whether MW is missing from the Topanga area. The content of the Snap might be able to confirm that he was there - his family seems to indicate that it was the case and appear to be comfortable with the claim that he's missing from the overlook area.

The cries for help would have been taken to be a male voice for them to have been linked to MW's disappearance. However, when the cries were heard, MW's car hadn't been discovered so there were no details of identity attached to the search while the cries were heard.

SAR was out there relatively quickly and did some extensive searches is what is not the easiest search area. The canines losing his scent outside the car is puzzling, especially if the dogs were brought in early in the morning. Scent does burn off quickly when the sun goes up, especially in the summer but if MW was actually there (within hours) you'd think there'd be something.

I'm thinking out loud about all this because there are so many unknowns here, including where it is that MW is actually missing from or whether the Simi sighting have been confirmed.
 
  • #138
The latest from the Acorn:

Fourth victim found in area mountains

Questions also remain in the case involving Matthew Weaver Jr., who disappeared a month ago.

A car belonging to the 21-year-old Simi Valley native was found abandoned in the Topanga Canyon area of the Santa Monica Mountains on Aug. 11.

Weaver was last seen Aug. 10 in the 2600 block of Stearns Street in Simi Valley, the Los Angeles Police Department told the Acorn.His car was found the next day near the Rosas Overlook above the Backbone Trail and Hondo Canyon.

Malibu Search and Rescue conducted several searches for the missing man but nothing turned up.

Weaver’s family questions whether the summer’s shootings and dead bodies might have a connection. Sheriff’s investigators so far have said no.
The LAPD confirm the last known sighting in Simi here.

(The Local has criticized the Acorn's reporting but Ian Bradley has been covering the shootings/bodies all summer and does routinely ask LE for confirmation before he goes to publish.)

There's also a very useful map which I will upload.

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  • #139
This is beyond distressing:

1). The response time is shameful-if the reporting party did indicate screams & cries for help - why did it take so long for help to arrive?

2). Did the reporting party, Chippy, or Fire Department that heard the screams and cries for help try to make contact? If you can hear them/they can hear you. Both of their units have equipment with loud speaker capability that could have been used to potentially narrow down search by asking yes and no questions.

3). Did the MFD shine their engine lights where they heard the screaming voice coming from? What was done that night with the equipment they had to find the injured party?

4.). Was West Hills Sheriff’s Station called that night to see if a tracking dog was available to find the injured party?

5). As at least a Chippy & a MFD heard the screams & cries for help, did they radio in for an ambulance to join them to take the injured party to the hospital once they were located?

Where in the world is Malibu, Calabasas, Agoura Hills, Topanga, Westlake Village, Hidden Hills, West Hills and Chatsworth Lake Manor’s tax payer money going?
I live in chatsworth, the response time is always low, but now there’s news going around they have found many make bodies in the chatsworth Hills, these locations are not all all easy to get to.
 
  • #140
The top of Topanga is a nice place to over look all the valleys (July 4th being the best), we live in a very populated city so seeing stars is hard from our homes. We do have wild peacocks in the hills so that could be the screams? Everyone and myself personally would never drive up that trail you park and hike up. It’s definitely a party spot and has been for years.
 
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