CA CA - Matthew Weaver, 21, Santa Monica Mountains, 10 Aug 2018

[Razz]

This is an overhead view (Google earth) of Rosa's Overlook and the roads going to it including the road MW was on. You can zoom down to were his car was and it is truly frightening.

Follow the route back (as maybe he was doing). There is the tower parking lot to the left. Maybe he waded through the brush there (it doesn't look like a huge mass of shrubs) as it would have given him a shorter route.

https://earth.app.goo.gl/?apn=com.g...0FAIeSMF8G1qF3AKg5Sb3NhcyBPdmVybG9vaxgBIAEoAg

 

[Rguycali]

@joeconejo Have you guys checked over the embankments all the way down stunt road for possibly another car?

 

[ScorpioRising]

If you look again, it is there already.

Yes, but it says 11:53am which is the time the text messages were exchanged. His phone call to her according to his aunt was at 11:30am. (23 minutes earlier) I feel like this is significant since no other phone activity was shown between his call at 11:30 and the text message exchange 23 minutes later.

Sorry, not trying to be annoying about this at all. I really like the timeline..it helps to check up on things quickly.

 

[ZumaGirl]

Deputies Launch Major Search in Malibu Canyon

 

[Razz]

Yes, but it says 11:53am which is the time the text messages were exchanged. His phone call to her according to his aunt was at 11:30am. (23 minutes earlier) I feel like this is significant since no other phone activity was shown between his call at 11:30 and the text message exchange 23 minutes later.

Sorry, not trying to be annoying about this at all. I really like the timeline..it helps to check up on things quickly.

Yes, I see now. You're not being annoying. I just checked my paper notes and rechecked what I typed in the timeline. I typed 11:53 twice instead of 11:30 when he called her.

Not sure how to change it. I think edit options are not available after a certain time. Any suggestions? I do everything on my phone and it's difficult navigating.

 

[ZumaGirl]

Deputies Launch Major Search in Malibu Canyon

This is happening right now.

 

[Alethea]

Deputies Launch Major Search in Malibu Canyon

More than a dozen LA County Sheriff's deputies Saturday combed Malibu Canyon with the aid of three helicopters after a park worker reported talking to a man who fit the description of a rifle-toting burglar spotted in the area last Sunday.

Bloodhounds were being brought in to search the canyon south of the Malibu Creel State Park campgrounds, where 35-year-old Irvine resident Tristan Beaudette was shot to death in his tent June 22 while camping with his two daughters.

Sheriff's Enforcement Bureau deputies used a helicopter to ferry more than a dozen crates of surveillance gear and other tactical items for a search that may extend into the night.

Dozens of squad cars were spotted in the canyon between Calabasas and Malibu by a reporter from KBUU radio.

 

[L7335]

This is happening right now.

For some context for folks outside the area: the entrance to Malibu Creek State Park is about 9 miles (by road) from the place where Weaver's car was found. Yes - it's all part of the Santa Monica Mountains but the two places really aren't that close.

 

[Razz]

Yes, but it says 11:53am which is the time the text messages were exchanged. His phone call to her according to his aunt was at 11:30am. (23 minutes earlier) I feel like this is significant since no other phone activity was shown between his call at 11:30 and the text message exchange 23 minutes later.

Sorry, not trying to be annoying about this at all. I really like the timeline..it helps to check up on things quickly.

So sorry again about the mistype.

Maybe in that 20 minute gap he continued driving and took the right fork around the Rosa's Overlook.
Maybe she didn't respond right away because she's not allowed to have her phone out at work. He may have known that and didn't attempt to call anyone else because he didn't have their numbers and he may have been too frightened to call home knowing they'd be upset and worried.

If you look at the Google earth shot (and dang, my link didn't work) you can zoom down to the path where he ended up. I don't know how accurate the picture is of that path is but it was very narrow with the drop off on the one side.
He may have continued to think this was a "legitimate" road and thought it would lead him out eventually. Instead, his wheel went over the side and he was stuck.
So the next question (if you believe this scenario) is what would he have done next.

 

[Rguycali]

So sorry again about the mistype.

Maybe in that 20 minute gap he continued driving and took the right fork around the Rosa's Overlook.
Maybe she didn't respond right away because she's not allowed to have her phone out at work. He may have known that and didn't attempt to call anyone else because he didn't have their numbers and he may have been too frightened to call home knowing they'd be upset and worried.

If you look at the Google earth shot (and dang, my link didn't work) you can zoom down to the path where he ended up. I don't know how accurate the picture is of that path is but it was very narrow with the drop off on the one side.
He may have continued to think this was a "legitimate" road and thought it would lead him out eventually. Instead, his wheel went over the side and he was stuck.
So the next question (if you believe this scenario) is what would he have done next.

Used his phone to call for help? If phone was dead and he had no charger in his car maybe hike up to the platform to look for someone, or hike to the microwave tower. From what I've read the microwave tower is now private property and was being turned into a private residence.

 

[Razz]

Used his phone to call for help? If phone was dead and he had no charger in his car maybe hike up to the platform to look for someone, or hike to the microwave tower. From what I've read the microwave tower is now private property and was being turned into a private residence.

Yes. I thought perhaps he hiked away from the car to where the 2 paths join, hike a bit down that main trail until he could diagonally go through the brush to the tower place.

 

[ScorpioRising]

So sorry again about the mistype.

Maybe in that 20 minute gap he continued driving and took the right fork around the Rosa's Overlook.
Maybe she didn't respond right away because she's not allowed to have her phone out at work. He may have known that and didn't attempt to call anyone else because he didn't have their numbers and he may have been too frightened to call home knowing they'd be upset and worried.

If you look at the Google earth shot (and dang, my link didn't work) you can zoom down to the path where he ended up. I don't know how accurate the picture is of that path is but it was very narrow with the drop off on the one side.
He may have continued to think this was a "legitimate" road and thought it would lead him out eventually. Instead, his wheel went over the side and he was stuck.
So the next question (if you believe this scenario) is what would he have done next.

What happened inbetween the phone call and the texts...that is exactly what I'm trying to figure out. I did at first think that maybe he was driving inbetween, however it sounds like @joeconejo said his car was on the video from the tower going up the hill early in the morning (7.12am). So if something happened at 11:30 that triggered him to call his new female friend and to talk while he still can as he said...then why didn't he call or text anybody else when she didn't answer the phone? I don't know it seems fishy to me.
@joeconejo Did your family hear the 911 call? Were you able to find out whether the female friend mentioned anything about them using drugs that night? Was she able to give information about MW's plans after he dropped her off? Have you considered a private investigator?

 

[Rguycali]

What happened inbetween the phone call and the texts...that is exactly what I'm trying to figure out. I did at first think that maybe he was driving inbetween, however it sounds like @joeconejo said his car was on the video from the tower going up the hill early in the morning (7.12am). So if something happened at 11:30 that triggered him to call his new female friend and to talk while he still can as he said...then why didn't he call or text anybody else when she didn't answer the phone? I don't know it seems fishy to me.
@joeconejo Did your family hear the 911 call? Were you able to find out whether the female friend mentioned anything about them using drugs that night? Was she able to give information about MW's plans after he dropped her off? Have you considered a private investigator?

That's what the gofundme is for. To hire a private investigator.

 

[Steph9676]

Used his phone to call for help? If phone was dead and he had no charger in his car maybe hike up to the platform to look for someone, or hike to the microwave tower. From what I've read the microwave tower is now private property and was being turned into a private residence.

Yes I also heard the microwave tower is privately owend and has construction trucks in and out of the road.

 

[slowpoke]

That's what the gofundme is for. To hire a private investigator.

In our thread, post #347, inmyhumbleopinion shared a video from a drone operator showing the terrain, but also of a group of volunteer searchers that day gathered and being spoken to by, presumably, a family representative. Our WS member thinks this person said that the first PI was fired, and they then got another one.

CA - CA - Matthew Weaver, 21, Santa Monica Mountains, 10 August 2018

 

[passepartout]

This video shows the situation at the microwave tower.

IIRC, the tower changed hands a few years ago and that's when the security came in.

 

[ScorpioRising]

This video shows the situation at the microwave tower.

IIRC, the tower changed hands a few years ago and that's when the security came in.

Interesting. Is a security guard still around? If they gate was left open for MW to drive up there, somebody could have been up there by car, maybe working at the tower? @joeconejo How did the family get the security footage from the tower?

Unrelated but...another questions for @joeconejo Any information on where MW met his female friend that night? From the text messages it sounds like it wasn't at her house.

 

[UncoolNegated]

I spoke with the Facebook group admin. He/she said that Matthew had a tattoo across his chest that said Jeremiah. Also, I was able to get a likeness of his baseball cap. It was a LA Angels cap but it seems sports teams have a dozen variants nowadays. Profiled him at my website. Very strange case.

 

[joeconejo]

@joeconejo Have you guys checked over the embankments all the way down stunt road for possibly another car?

Yes we have.

 

[joeconejo]

What happened inbetween the phone call and the texts...that is exactly what I'm trying to figure out. I did at first think that maybe he was driving inbetween, however it sounds like @joeconejo said his car was on the video from the tower going up the hill early in the morning (7.12am). So if something happened at 11:30 that triggered him to call his new female friend and to talk while he still can as he said...then why didn't he call or text anybody else when she didn't answer the phone? I don't know it seems fishy to me.
@joeconejo Did your family hear the 911 call? Were you able to find out whether the female friend mentioned anything about them using drugs that night? Was she able to give information about MW's plans after he dropped her off? Have you considered a private investigator?

We did not hear the 911 call - only what LE has told us.
Female friend admitted to drug use that night.
She had no information to give regarding Matthews plans or intent.
P.I. services are being contracted.