GUILTY CA - Michelle Hoang Thi Le, 26, Hayward, 27 May 2011

  • #381
I'm just curious about GE. What has she been doing since she supposedly knocked on the neighbors' doors to apologize for the police presence? I remember that in one of the news reports, she claimed to be moving. I hope that the LE are keeping tabs on her. MOO.
 
  • #382
marie-chantal, I know I read something about GE's whereabouts, and found it at the link:
"As for Esteban, police say they know where she is and she has been cooperative."
http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/east_bay&id=8179319

Regarding the family's search plans, another new article states this interesting bit of information:
"He [Mark Klaas] added he did not know exact locations where they might begin searching but said they will be looking into the timeline surrounding Giselle Esteban, a former friend of Le’s whose apartment was twice searched by police."

http://sancarlos.patch.com/articles/michelle-le-supporters-canvass-hayward-neighborhood
 
  • #383
There's a relatively long video interview of Mark Klaas commenting on the case. The interview was taken from the day they were passing out fliers, I believe.

I am glad he is supporting and guiding ML's family!


http://sanlorenzo.patch.com/articles/supporters-canvas-hayward-in-search-for-michelle-le#video-6556814

Informative vid. I'm on there, the hippie grandma with the long hair (lol) wierd to see that on vid...

So onto today, I dislocated my shoulder during the weekend and had to have it reset yesterday in the ER. I'll have to be off work 2 weeks so I'm trying to adjust. I hope to help the Le family using my computer skills since I'm limited on doing much else. I still plan on having someone drive me to work this week to talk to Kaiser admin. to get flyers posted IN kaiser and IN the parking garages. I'm also trying to help the family find a local command center for the search this weekend.

Some things I was thinking about -

1. Did LE search GE's car? Wouldn't her leaving to San Diego compromise any evidence that may have ben in the car? Just speculating here.

2. And I agree with Wadsworth's assessment. I don't see a partnership with Michelles family and the Hayward PD. I don't know what Hayward PD is doing-they have been way too quiet lately IMHO. There needs to be direction here and I'm not sure how to help that can come about. Suggestions welcome because I have lots of time on my hands.

And it is OK to use some of the ideas here to post to the Le website? I think some posters here have some good info that could help with the search. I didn't want to do that without asking first.

Hope everyone is having a good day out there.
 
  • #384
Informative vid. I'm on there, the hippie grandma with the long hair (lol) wierd to see that on vid...

So onto today, I dislocated my shoulder during the weekend and had to have it reset yesterday in the ER. I'll have to be off work 2 weeks so I'm trying to adjust. I hope to help the Le family using my computer skills since I'm limited on doing much else. I still plan on having someone drive me to work this week to talk to Kaiser admin. to get flyers posted IN kaiser and IN the parking garages. I'm also trying to help the family find a local command center for the search this weekend.

Some things I was thinking about -

1. Did LE search GE's car? Wouldn't her leaving to San Diego compromise any evidence that may have ben in the car? Just speculating here.

2. And I agree with Wadsworth's assessment. I don't see a partnership with Michelles family and the Hayward PD. I don't know what Hayward PD is doing-they have been way too quiet lately IMHO. There needs to be direction here and I'm not sure how to help that can come about. Suggestions welcome because I have lots of time on my hands.

And it is OK to use some of the ideas here to post to the Le website? I think some posters here have some good info that could help with the search. I didn't want to do that without asking first.

Hope everyone is having a good day out there.

bolded by me.

DLynn, I am sorry about your shoulder. Ouch. I hope you'll feel better soon.

As far as posting ideas from here to the Le website: I don't know, but why don't you contact one of the moderators and ask? You'd get an answer more quickly that way!

Take care.
 
  • #385
1. Did LE search GE's car? Wouldn't her leaving to San Diego compromise any evidence that may have ben in the car? Just speculating here.

2. And I agree with Wadsworth's assessment. I don't see a partnership with Michelles family and the Hayward PD. I don't know what Hayward PD is doing-they have been way too quiet lately IMHO. There needs to be direction here and I'm not sure how to help that can come about. Suggestions welcome because I have lots of time on my hands.

And it is OK to use some of the ideas here to post to the Le website? I think some posters here have some good info that could help with the search. I didn't want to do that without asking first.

LE issued a search warrant twice but it wasn't very clear on what they searched other than her residence. Her car wasn't mentioned - that I am aware of. Would it compromise evidence if she drove to San Diego? Not likely. The location where Michelle's car was found and the parking garage are WALKING distance. This hints that it might have been premeditated. Someone would park their own car near the hospital, commit the crime with her vehicle, and then park Michelle's vehicle close enough to where they could get back into their own car. I'd bet that a majority of the forensic evidence is within Michelle's car... not the perp.

As far as a better partnership with police, it simply requires a single liaison to coordinate with the lead investigator on the case. The police would appreciate that and might assist more if only ONE person is a conduit between the family and LE instead of a mob of people. There is a problem when the same information is repeated to several people over and over again. This is why in my post I was very specific about information vetting and flow - this is critical! Efficiency is very key to this investigation and search.

...and use whatever information I've presented - feel free to reach out otherwise. I'm planning on taking time off work on Friday and Sunday to assist in the search as long as the locations are reasonable and sensible to the investigation. (example, I won't be sent to search Novato unless evidence points in that direction...) I'll provide what support I can to the family.

She is out there...somewhere.
 
  • #386
LE issued a search warrant twice but it wasn't very clear on what they searched other than her residence. Her car wasn't mentioned - that I am aware of. Would it compromise evidence if she drove to San Diego? Not likely. The location where Michelle's car was found and the parking garage are WALKING distance. This hints that it might have been premeditated. Someone would park their own car near the hospital, commit the crime with her vehicle, and then park Michelle's vehicle close enough to where they could get back into their own car. I'd bet that a majority of the forensic evidence is within Michelle's car... not the perp.

As far as a better partnership with police, it simply requires a single liaison to coordinate with the lead investigator on the case. The police would appreciate that and might assist more if only ONE person is a conduit between the family and LE instead of a mob of people. There is a problem when the same information is repeated to several people over and over again. This is why in my post I was very specific about information vetting and flow - this is critical! Efficiency is very key to this investigation and search.

...and use whatever information I've presented - feel free to reach out otherwise. I'm planning on taking time off work on Friday and Sunday to assist in the search as long as the locations are reasonable and sensible to the investigation. (example, I won't be sent to search Novato unless evidence points in that direction...) I'll provide what support I can to the family.

She is out there...somewhere.

It's crazy how everything seems premeditated. Some sick person or persons planned this thing out. And it's crazy that they targeted Michelle. A girl who was on her way to doing something great in her life by helping the community with nursing. Someone must've had a big MO and the only person who seems to fit that "someone" is GE. LE should watch her like a hawk right now. Tap her phones, etc. If it was GE, would it be possible that she had assistance from people in San Diego. What if they took Michelle to San Diego where they are more familiar with the area? What if the pings from all the different cities were basically the people looking for i-5 so that they could take her to San Diego? Michelle could be anywhere though...
 
  • #387
bolded by me.

DLynn, I am sorry about your shoulder. Ouch. I hope you'll feel better soon.

As far as posting ideas from here to the Le website: I don't know, but why don't you contact one of the moderators and ask? You'd get an answer more quickly that way!

Take care.

Thanks it was more painful than a c-section I'd say.

And I'm just going to post snippets from here that might help the search.
 
  • #388
It's crazy how everything seems premeditated. Some sick person or persons planned this thing out. And it's crazy that they targeted Michelle. A girl who was on her way to doing something great in her life by helping the community with nursing. Someone must've had a big MO and the only person who seems to fit that "someone" is GE. LE should watch her like a hawk right now. Tap her phones, etc. If it was GE, would it be possible that she had assistance from people in San Diego. What if they took Michelle to San Diego where they are more familiar with the area? What if the pings from all the different cities were basically the people looking for i-5 so that they could take her to San Diego? Michelle could be anywhere though...

No doubt premeditated. LE has suggested that the person who did this knew her. If they searched GE's house twice then they had probable cause to do so. Do they have enough evidence to convict? I'm sure this might have something to do with why they are being so quiet. They don't want to tip off anyone who might try to get rid of evidence. LE is watching a few people, no doubt.

I don't like to wildly speculate. Is it possible GE had help from people in San Diego? Perhaps. It is also possible she hired someone. Yet, everything up to this point seems to fit the bill of ONE perp, not several. It didn't appear to be a team effort. The more people you add to a situation like this on the perp side, the more things that can go wrong, people that can talk and offer testimony, and it becomes a huge mess. I'd bet this was done by a single individual male or female with decent knowledge of the area.

The pings on her cell phone hint to four LOCAL cities. If you know the area, it isn't hard to get to I5 from Hayward using 580 but if the cellular pings are accurate: Oakland, Hayward, Union City, and Fremont - then it's clear the person was looking for a place to put Michelle. TV makes hiding a body SO easy. It isn't. They certainly wouldn't be driving Michelle all the way down to San Diego. It's too much risk. I'd also point out that WHITE scrubs are very easy to spot from the air or at a distance.

There is a limited time frame from the time Michelle left the building to the time she was reported missing. The walk from the building or parking garage to where her car was located is less than fifteen (15) minutes.

No, my suspicion all along is the same LE appears to have - Michelle Le is in this area some place. She will be found, God willing.
 
  • #389
Thanks it was more painful than a c-section I'd say.

And I'm just going to post snippets from here that might help the search.

I've never had a c-section but it all sounds extremely painful. Once your shoulder's back in place I hope it doesn't hurt so much.

As far as the search ideas, anything that helps find Michelle.
 
  • #390
Marc Klaas, Brad Dennis, and the KlaasKids organization is heading to Hayward California to assist in the search for Ms. Le.

Websleuths will be providing help with the purchase of food for the searchers and hopefully as many Websleuths members as possible will show up for the search.

I will have all of the details hopefully within 36 hours.
 
  • #391
Marc Klaas, Brad Dennis, and the KlaasKids organization is heading to Hayward California to assist in the search for Ms. Le.

Websleuths will be providing help with the purchase of food for the searchers and hopefully as many Websleuths members as possible will show up for the search.

I will have all of the details hopefully within 36 hours.

Awesome!!

I hope they consider the Oakland area to search. I was told over the weekend that that was a place of speculation. One of her soriety sisters mentioned it while passing out flyers.
 
  • #392
So onto today, I dislocated my shoulder during the weekend and had to have it reset yesterday in the ER. I'll have to be off work 2 weeks so I'm trying to adjust. I hope to help the Le family using my computer skills since I'm limited on doing much else.

Take it easy! Let the young energetic people do the grunt work :D

The family is not from around here so I'm sure you are more valuable doing logistics and being on the administrative side.

I'm too pooped each day from work so I can't help out in the searches. I've donated money and will each month. That's the least I could do. I've also talked with family and friends and kept them updated on the story. I'm seeing if they could help out in anyway. The family's website stated they need a 2-3 bedroom place around here. I've asked family and coworkers if they knew of anything but so far nothing yet.
 
  • #393
I am so blown away by the goodness of the posters and admin on this WS site.

You all don't just talk about the cases, you get involved and help where you can towards solving it, too.

We are joined here because of people missing who are often victims of the evil or dark side of humanity, but here we see that there are a lot of stellar people in this world, as evidenced by our own posters.

You all make me feel so good. Thank you, all. :cheerful:
 
  • #394
"We’re planning search parties for this Friday, Saturday, and possibly Sunday. We’re in contact with people trained in search and rescue so we’re going to do it big and it’s going to be organized. Volunteers will be directed where to go and how to perform the search. So if if you could please free up one or multiple days out of your weekend, that would be amazing."

http://michellelemissing.com/?p=221

They are asking those who can participate to rsvp on facebook pages.

Further details at the link.

They still are seeking a staging area. Oh, I hope they get a good turnout!
 
  • #395
I just caught the tail end of a local story about GE. She didn't show up today at the Fremont Court to answer to the restraining order that was filed against her by her ex. Apparently the ex also added their daughter today to the RO,and the news said GE was with family. The judge said if she didn't show up to the next hearing that she would be facing criminal charges.

I don't blame the ex for adding the little girl. I would'nt let my daughter go 10 feet within GE's presence right now with the possible charges against her concerning Michelle.

She would have to be totally cleared of any involvement before I would even allow supervised visits.

Just found a link to the latest news:

http://sanmateo.patch.com/articles/le-case-restraining-order-continued-against-person-of-interest
 
  • #396
I just caught the tail end of a local story about GE. She didn't show up today at the Fremont Court to answer to the restraining order that was filed against her by her ex. Apparently the ex also added their daughter today to the RO,and the news said GE was with family. The judge said if she didn't show up to the next hearing that she would be facing criminal charges.

I don't blame the ex for adding the little girl. I would'nt let my daughter go 10 feet within GE's presence right now with the possible charges against her concerning Michelle.

She would have to be totally cleared of any involvement before I would even allow supervised visits.

Just found a link to the latest news:

http://sanmateo.patch.com/articles/le-case-restraining-order-continued-against-person-of-interest

For the safety of the child and SM (the boyfriend) I wish that the court could take into account that GE is a POI and not allow any visits at all with GE.
I feel so sorry for that little girl. How horrendous for her to be exposed to such a crazy woman, and have to be in this situation at all.
 
  • #397
No doubt premeditated. LE has suggested that the person who did this knew her. If they searched GE's house twice then they had probable cause to do so. Do they have enough evidence to convict? I'm sure this might have something to do with why they are being so quiet. They don't want to tip off anyone who might try to get rid of evidence. LE is watching a few people, no doubt.

I don't like to wildly speculate. Is it possible GE had help from people in San Diego? Perhaps. It is also possible she hired someone. Yet, everything up to this point seems to fit the bill of ONE perp, not several. It didn't appear to be a team effort. The more people you add to a situation like this on the perp side, the more things that can go wrong, people that can talk and offer testimony, and it becomes a huge mess. I'd bet this was done by a single individual male or female with decent knowledge of the area.

The pings on her cell phone hint to four LOCAL cities. If you know the area, it isn't hard to get to I5 from Hayward using 580 but if the cellular pings are accurate: Oakland, Hayward, Union City, and Fremont - then it's clear the person was looking for a place to put Michelle. TV makes hiding a body SO easy. It isn't. They certainly wouldn't be driving Michelle all the way down to San Diego. It's too much risk. I'd also point out that WHITE scrubs are very easy to spot from the air or at a distance.

There is a limited time frame from the time Michelle left the building to the time she was reported missing. The walk from the building or parking garage to where her car was located is less than fifteen (15) minutes.

No, my suspicion all along is the same LE appears to have - Michelle Le is in this area some place. She will be found, God willing.

The LE did send an investigator to San Diego just recently though.
 
  • #398
For the safety of the child and SM (the boyfriend) I wish that the court could take into account that GE is a POI and not allow any visits at all with GE.
I feel so sorry for that little girl. How horrendous for her to be exposed to such a crazy woman, and have to be in this situation at all.

If you've watched some of the videos from the San Diego TV news reports online, they show a picture of GE. She looks crazy!
 
  • #399
In support of Michelle & her family, my wife & I decided to ride our motorcycle with our Michelle Le missing shirts on and rode around the bay area. The motorcycle tends to get a lot of attention, so we knew people would look at the shirt. We plan on riding again this Thursday and Friday.

support_michelle_1.jpg
 
  • #400
If you've watched some of the videos from the San Diego TV news reports online, they show a picture of GE. She looks crazy!

All I've seen is a still photo. It was hard to tell her mental status from that but of course, I was biased by reports :(...I'll try to check out the San Diego videos.
 

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