CA CA - Modesto, WhtFem #UP58456,"Frosty Austin," Oct'18

[clorenc]

On second look, Helen seems to have wider-set, downturned eyes and a more bulbous nose tip. Although I’m not sure how much aging and weight gain could affect those facial features.

Are there any reports about whether Frosty had any dental work done?

 

[Bit of hope]

Are there any reports about whether Frosty had any dental work done?

Hi. Not that I ever have seen. Basically we know just a tiny bit about her and their are no Distinctive Physical Features entered in Namus. Maybe she had dentals or scars. Being estimated 68 years one would think she didn't have a baby skin anymore. Persons who cared for her must have known these things, but nothing seems to be public or it's simply not documented.

 

[clorenc]

Hi. Not that I ever have seen. Basically we know just a tiny bit about her and their are no Distinctive Physical Features entered in Namus. Maybe she had dentals or scars. Being estimated 68 years one would think she didn't have a baby skin anymore. Persons who cared for her must have known these things, but nothing seems to be public or it's simply not documented.

I’m just wondering because in her older photos, it looks as though she may have had a gap or a misaligned front tooth — although that may be due to poor photo quality. In her later photos, her teeth appear straight. It might be helpful to know what her teeth originally looked like when comparing with photos of possible matches. I assume if she lived in Stockton for 30+ years, she had a dentist. But yes, it seems we’re not privy to that info.

 

[Laura Avery]

So looking at a different way, I thought I'd run names of people who she was "caught' with at la bia (sp), to see if perhaps she went with a relative. This lady shares the same surname as one of the employees, (although I don't know if they are actually related) Bizarrely she was born 24th June 1950, and I can't find anymore records of her. I found the teeth comparison quite interesting against the earliest known picture of Frosty.

 

[kforbes862]

Is there any way to find out where Don Austin is now?

 

[azure]

Is there any way to find out where Don Austin is now?

Donald died in 2018. Is there a son named Don?

 

[BindingBloodline]

Personally i am getting bad vibes from this case for some reason. Some of my research indicates her relation to Philadelphia - specifically a case of money laundering and fraud. Adelphia Communications Corporation - Wikipedia

found this gem while researching what numbers/emails are tied to her name.
Also.. Becca Sue????

 

[UnlicensedPI]

Uhhh did we know about the "false imprisonment" case? I guess she was the manager of a Sambo's in 1981. Can't remember if I found this before.

DAVID R. THORPE v. FROSTY JAN O'MALLEY, ET AL :: Superior Court of California, County of Santa Clara :: State Civil Lawsuit No. 181CV485450

DAVID R. THORPE v. FROSTY JAN O'MALLEY, ET AL, Case No. 181CV485450 in the Superior Court of California, County of Santa Clara.

www.plainsite.org

 

[Laura Avery]

Uhhh did we know about the "false imprisonment" case? I guess she was the manager of a Sambo's in 1981. Can't remember if I found this before.

DAVID R. THORPE v. FROSTY JAN O'MALLEY, ET AL :: Superior Court of California, County of Santa Clara :: State Civil Lawsuit No. 181CV485450

DAVID R. THORPE v. FROSTY JAN O'MALLEY, ET AL, Case No. 181CV485450 in the Superior Court of California, County of Santa Clara.

www.plainsite.org

No!!! This is new, and puts her in the area 5 years prior to what we found before? Think it was 86 or 84 . Fantastic find!

 

[Laura Avery]

Looking at the name Rebecca or Becca there's this lady, think she looks like a young Frosty, but age and date of birth is off. However Rebecca's parents got married days after or before Frostys supposed birthdays 24.06.50 Thiers is something like 27.06.50 . The various names and general fraudulent lifestyle was similar.

 

[Laura Avery]

Uhhh did we know about the "false imprisonment" case? I guess she was the manager of a Sambo's in 1981. Can't remember if I found this before.

DAVID R. THORPE v. FROSTY JAN O'MALLEY, ET AL :: Superior Court of California, County of Santa Clara :: State Civil Lawsuit No. 181CV485450

DAVID R. THORPE v. FROSTY JAN O'MALLEY, ET AL, Case No. 181CV485450 in the Superior Court of California, County of Santa Clara.

www.plainsite.org

There's another potentially FROSTY O'MALLEY v. ROY LEE TURNER ET AL :: Superior Court of California, County of Santa Clara :: State Civil Lawsuit No. 182CV497511

 

[BindingBloodline]

Has anyone read the papers yet?? I skimmed it and it looks as though Plantiff is alluding to a form of false imprisonment via being kept in the restaurant despite wanting to leave, O'mallery alleged he "caused this himself through negligence", "committed a misdemeanor in front of police", and "defrauded inkeeper", this sounds to me like he was held against his will for failing to pay for something??

 

[BindingBloodline]

Apparently he refused to pay for a meal due to misleading advertisements. Ordered an all-you-can-eat, but when requesting a second helping, Frosty flew off the handle and somehow detained him despite him repeatedly saying "I can pay, do not call the police, I have my wallet right here". Like according to him she went from 0 to 100, quick.

 

[UnlicensedPI]

Apparently he refused to pay for a meal due to misleading advertisements. Ordered an all-you-can-eat, but when requesting a second helping, Frosty flew off the handle and somehow detained him despite him repeatedly saying "I can pay, do not call the police, I have my wallet right here". Like according to him she went from 0 to 100, quick.

This is likely exaggerated (I'm mostly fluent in legalese). He asked for a second plate, but the waitress told him she had been mistaken when she said it would not count as a second order. He and the waitress got into it. He claims Frosty then wouldn't let him leave -- I think he refused to pay for his firsts unless he got seconds. He says he was willing to pay for what he got, but he wanted to get what he was paying for (i.e. all you can eat). Frosty called the police because she thought he was trying to dine and dash.

What's really important for us here is that Frosty called the police. That means she wasn't afraid of their involvement. It's unlikely she was on the run or hiding her identity because she was a criminal. I'm wondering how public-facing her role was as the restaurant manager, how long she'd been working there, if she started out as a waitress...that lack of fear of the police or public would indicate she wasn't in hiding.

 

[Laura Avery]

This is likely exaggerated (I'm mostly fluent in legalese). He asked for a second plate, but the waitress told him she had been mistaken when she said it would not count as a second order. He and the waitress got into it. He claims Frosty then wouldn't let him leave -- I think he refused to pay for his firsts unless he got seconds. He says he was willing to pay for what he got, but he wanted to get what he was paying for (i.e. all you can eat). Frosty called the police because she thought he was trying to dine and dash.

What's really important for us here is that Frosty called the police. That means she wasn't afraid of their involvement. It's unlikely she was on the run or hiding her identity because she was a criminal. I'm wondering how public-facing her role was as the restaurant manager, how long she'd been working there, if she started out as a waitress...that lack of fear of the police or public would indicate she wasn't in hiding.

I'm not so sure about the hiding, my Grandfather was hiding in plain site and quite well known, he's even on here But because all his hiding bad things happened before the rise of social media and the internet he never even bothered changing his name, he just moved countries, no-one believed me, but then when he passed I showed them everything. What I'm saying hiding is easy in past times because of the lack of proof online back then.
But on the side of her name actually being frosty, perhaps we need to think of names, Florence, Fiona, etc x

 

[UnlicensedPI]

There's another potentially FROSTY O'MALLEY v. ROY LEE TURNER ET AL :: Superior Court of California, County of Santa Clara :: State Civil Lawsuit No. 182CV497511

By the way, this is a personal injury lawsuit resulting from a car accident. Turner is alleged to have been intoxicated at the time of the crash. Frosty was driving the other vehicle and had a passenger who is another party to the lawsuit. I wonder about driver's license, insurance, etc. as well as the medical records (she went to the hospital).

 

[Laura Avery]

By the way, this is a personal injury lawsuit resulting from a car accident. Turner is alleged to have been intoxicated at the time of the crash. Frosty was driving the other vehicle and had a passenger who is another party to the lawsuit. I wonder about driver's license, insurance, etc. as well as the medical records (she went to the hospital).

Was there an name for the other passenger, location and date at all, please, many thanks! (sorry my question mark button is broken on my laptop x)

 

[Laura Avery]

Some info about Sambo resturants

https://localwiki.org/santacruz/Sambo%27s

The modest bee states in November 1981 they are really struggling sue to "Inexperienced managers" It does say on that note they (This restaurant) filed for bankruptcy not soon after. Given that Frosty was a manger here, she would have either had to have been a manager elsewhere or worked up from lower paid jobs in the same restaurant. Either way as a manager she would have probably been in charge of hiring and firing staff, with that in mind I looked at Employment ads, for Sambos, and Seasons, nothing for this restaurant. However, I now wonder if she wnt bankrupt or bought caused "her" restaurant, could this explain the "La Bahia" restaurant employee right to work issue, whilst I'm sure she does have a right to work, it might explain the lack of willing to show honesty.
Also if you look clearly there is a waitress named on the case, shes not actually that hard to find, but seemingly difficult to contact.

 

[UnlicensedPI]

Was there an name for the other passenger, location and date at all, please, many thanks! (sorry my question mark button is broken on my laptop x)

You can put the case number in here to find the records:

Public Portal - Superior Court of California, County of Santa Clara

Superior Court of California, County of Santa Clara Case Portal

traffic.scscourt.org

 

[Laura Avery]

You can put the case number in here to find the records:

Public Portal - Superior Court of California, County of Santa Clara

Superior Court of California, County of Santa Clara Case Portal

traffic.scscourt.org

Unfortunatly "access denied", possibly as im in the UK. Thanks though!