CA CA - Nevada City, AsianFem UP17160, 25-45, found in wooded area near State Hwy 20, "Ming Shi Jia Ren" jeans, Sept'06

[Romulus]

Namus add this case in database with other details

https://www.identifyus.org/en/cases/17160

Blue "Ming Shi Jia Ren" jeans were found at the scene and also Chain necklace

 

[carbuff]

How about Namus MP #10090

Name: Noppajan Lo

She went missing on October 12th, 2004. I don't think that it's a 'smoking gun' kind of lead, but the face does match the composite sketch closely in my opinion. Accordingly, hair and race match and so does the age (low end of the range).

Lo is missing from California, but a different part. Also, she is missing with her son while our Doe was only found by herself. Furthermore, there's a focus on the Doe only been dead for a year, but those things aren't exact. Maybe time to open minds a little?

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http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/l/lo_noppajan.html
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/10090/793

 

[carbuff]

I put the GPS coordinates from the Namus file into Google Maps and came up with this as the location where the remains were found: https://goo.gl/maps/SHgo3rNwP4E2

I noticed that just on the other side of Route 20, there's the Burlington OHV area -- OHV is "off highway vehicle" area. The place to the south marked "Chalk Bluff Staging Area" is a place where aficionados can park their on-highway vehicles (usually pickup or trailer), remove the offroad vehicle, and hit the trails. I found information about the area in a database of offroad trails:
https://www.riderplanet-usa.com/atv/trails/info/california_12316/ride_6f85.htm
Apparently it's only for motorcycles, not ATVs or dune buggies.

It's probably not significant, except that it seems to be a reason for people from farther away to be in a relatively isolated area.

 

[carbuff]

Updated link: The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

No exclusions listed.

 

[digitective]

NamUs says "blue 'Ming Shi Jia Ren' jeans were found at the scene." I'm no expert but "Ming Shi Jia Ren" sounds like it may be Chinese...maybe Jane Doe was a Chinese immigrant?

 

[FireOwl9]

NamUs says "blue 'Ming Shi Jia Ren' jeans were found at the scene." I'm no expert but "Ming Shi Jia Ren" sounds like it may be Chinese...maybe Jane Doe was a Chinese immigrant?

Yes, very sure it is Chinese. Wondering if they have the Chinese characters that go with the pinyin as well?

 

[carbuff]

Yes, very sure it is Chinese. Wondering if they have the Chinese characters that go with the pinyin as well?

I found a 2012 Shanghai TV show "Luan Shi Jia Ren" which was translated as A Beauty in Troubled Times (
A Beauty in Troubled Times - DramaWiki

And a 1960 Hong Kong movie "Ru shi jia ren" which was translated as A Challenge of Love.

And a dictionary jue shi jia ren | Definition | Mandarin Chinese Pinyin English Dictionary | Yabla Chinese that says "jue shi jia ren" means "a woman of unmatched beauty"(idiom)

But no ming shi jia ren. "Ming" according to to the same dictionary is something like bright or famous, so the jeans name might translate to roughly "famous beauty" or something along those lines. Mayne. I'm guessing.

Given recent news about Chinese girls being held prisoner to work in sex shops, I'm afraid she might have been "imported" and unknown to anybody in this country.

 

[FireOwl9]

I found a 2012 Shanghai TV show "Luan Shi Jia Ren" which was translated as A Beauty in Troubled Times (
A Beauty in Troubled Times - DramaWiki

And a 1960 Hong Kong movie "Ru shi jia ren" which was translated as A Challenge of Love.

And a dictionary jue shi jia ren | Definition | Mandarin Chinese Pinyin English Dictionary | Yabla Chinese that says "jue shi jia ren" means "a woman of unmatched beauty"(idiom)

But no ming shi jia ren. "Ming" according to to the same dictionary is something like bright or famous, so the jeans name might translate to roughly "famous beauty" or something along those lines. Mayne. I'm guessing.

Given recent news about Chinese girls being held prisoner to work in sex shops, I'm afraid she might have been "imported" and unknown to anybody in this country.

'Ming' means along the lines of famous/bright, and 'ren' I'm very sure in this context means person. I can speak Chinese, but unfortunately I can barely read Chinese characters/pinyin. I do have quite a fair few clothes bought from China that have both the pinyin and Chinese characters, and if there's Chinese characters associated with the 'Ming shi jia ren', then it would provide another clue as to who our Jane Doe was. Right now I will ask my family members what 'Ming shi jia ren' means and if they know if it's a well known brand in China.

 

[Xyklone]

'Ming' means along the lines of famous/bright, and 'ren' I'm very sure in this context means person. I can speak Chinese, but unfortunately I can barely read Chinese characters/pinyin. I do have quite a fair few clothes bought from China that have both the pinyin and Chinese characters, and if there's Chinese characters associated with the 'Ming shi jia ren', then it would provide another clue as to who our Jane Doe was. Right now I will ask my family members what 'Ming shi jia ren' means and if they know if it's a well known brand in China.

I'm from China and I never heard of that brand.
and yes, "Jia Ren" means beautiful woman, "Ming" in this context means famous Imo, and "Shi" means world or time.

 

[Melt71]

Are there still no ruleouts?

Timeframe may not fit, but perhaps Janice Chai Hsi Lo missing from CA in 1996. Her family live in Taiwan, could explain clothing with Chinese name.
The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

 

[Xyklone]

Are there still no ruleouts?

Timeframe may not fit, but perhaps Janice Chai Hsi Lo missing from CA in 1996. Her family live in Taiwan, could explain clothing with Chinese name.
The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
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however, Min Shi Jia Ren isn't Romanized Pinyin, which Taiwanese brands use.

 

[Melt71]

however, Min Shi Jia Ren isn't Romanized Pinyin, which Taiwanese brands use.

Agreed, and sorry I should have explained my thinking in the earlier post. I lived in Taiwan for a few years until 2003, so not long before this UID died. It was common for my colleagues to travel to Hong Kong on vacation and go on shopping sprees of mainland-made clothes, handbags, makeup etc. Those who held a foreign passport (back then China was not yet open to Taiwanese) often crossed over the border to shop in China itself. Not saying you are wrong, just throwing it out there.

 

[Melt71]

P.S. Xyklone and Fireowl9 I can't work out how to tag you.. wanna take a look at the Chinese language tatts at MA - MA - Boston, WhtMale 1068UMMA, 35-45, full-sleeve & multiple tats, Jun'06 I think I see a "tien" (like ricefields - a square with a cross in the middle - but that's the extent of my mandarin!)

 

[Nate_Bro]

I know it is a stretch, but Cynthia Sunga who went missing from Canada comes to mind. She is listed as Asian, had moved to Canada from the Philippines, and had a tattoo with Chinese lettering.
Canada's Missing | Case details

Also if the remains had been there longer, Jin Mei Li is another possibility. She was in the US on a performing arts Visa and disappeared from her Hotel in California. There is no picture however.
The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

 

[carbuff]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
One exclusion:

MP12715 Xiang Sun 09/23/2000 Boone MO

And the reconstruction:

 

[citizen_sleuth]

Unidentified Person / NamUs #UP17160​

Case Information​

NCMEC Number: N/A
ME/C Case Number: 10602865

Demographics​

Sex: Female
Race/Ethnicity: Asian
Estimated Age Group: Adult
Estimated Age Range (Years): 25-45
Estimated Year of Death: N/A
Estimated PMI: N/A
Height: Cannot Estimate
Weight: Cannot Estimate

Circumstances​

Type: Unidentified Deceased
Date Body Found: September 3, 2006
NamUs Case Created: October 24, 2017
Location: Nevada City, California
County: Nevada County
GPS Coordinates (Not Mapped): N39\'ba18.677 W120\'ba 46.068.
Found On Tribal Land: N/A
Circumstances of Recovery: Human remains were discovered in a wooded area off State Highway 20 in Nevada City, California.
Inventory of Remains: One or more limbs not recovered
One or both hands not recovered
Condition of Remains: Not recognizable - Partial skeletal parts only

Physical Description​

Hair Color: Black
Head Hair Description: N/A
Body Hair Description: N/A
Facial Hair Description: N/A
Left Eye Color: N/A
Right Eye Color: N/A
Distinctive Physical Features: No information entered

Clothing and Accessories​

Clothing: blue "Ming Shi Jia Ren" jeans were found at the scene (Near the Body)
Jewelry: Chain necklace (On the Body)

 

[citizen_sleuth]

Senovia Medina / NamUs #MP23159
DLC: January 5, 2006
Missing age: 37
Missing from: Houston, TX
Circumstances: Senovia Medina was last seen on January 5, 2006. Her 1995 Isuzu Rodeo bearing Texas license plate X13 HVJ was located abandoned.

Noppajan Lo / NamUs #MP10090
DLC: October 12, 2004
Missing age: 30
Missing from: Los Alamitos, CA
Circumstances: Noppajan is missing with her son, Justin Lo, and were last seen on October 12, 2004, in Los Alamitos.

Deling Sun / NamUs #MP22287
DLC: July 30, 2003
Missing age: 29
Missing from: Glendora, CA - Glendora approximately a 45 min drive from Los Alamitos & LAX is 30 minutes from Los Alamitos
Circumstances: She was last seen July 30, 2003 in a parking lot at a parking lot at Valley Boulevard and New Avenue in San Gabriel, California. Her car was located three months later at the Tom Bradley Terminal at the Los Angeles International Airport.

 

[tinynest]

One rule out is now listed on NAMUS:
MP12715, Xiang Sun, DLC: 09/23/2000, Boone MO

 

[Goecke]

I'm not local to the area but have spent a decent amount of time in San Francisco's Chinatown. There's a lot of stores there that sell Chinese brand clothes, and I don't think any of them are 'big name' brands in China. SF is about a 3 hour drive from Nevada City and has a very large Chinese population, so perhaps she could be from there?

 

[AguaFlorida2001]

It's odd that I can't find anything about "Ming Shi Jia Ren" on the internet, besides these pants. I mean wouldn't there at least be some sort of record that this brand existed somewhere?
Maybe they were custom-made at a boutique or something like that?