Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020 #5

[Laughing]

The house had solar panels already, I suspect due to it previously being a grow house.

If those are modern, high quality solar panels -- the house is likely off the electrical grid, and that's the origin of the phrase.

But where are those two adorable, rambunctious boys???

jmho ymmv lrr

 

[Knox]

If those are modern, high quality solar panels -- the house is likely off the electrical grid, and that's the origin of the phrase.

But where are those two adorable, rambunctious boys???

jmho ymmv lrr

Look modern to me (within 4-5 years) and yes, to origin of the phrase.

 

[Auntie Cipation]

(forgot to insert quote -- this is in reply to @Laughing )

Disagree -- those solar panels are almost guaranteed to be grid-intertied, meaning they are connected to the grid and run the meter backwards when it's sunny.

Literal "off-grid" electrical system means no meter, and a battery bank to store the energy. Battery bank requires maintenance and also a careful, electricity-minimized lifestyle, by which I mean: unless they had a huge photovoltaic array (bigger than what I see on the roof), no electric heat, no electric range, no electric water heater.*

Does anyone recall from the zillow tour whether the range was electric or gas?


*based on my personal current and past experience living literally off-grid.

 

[Tired Professor]

(forgot to insert quote -- this is in reply to @Laughing )

Disagree -- those solar panels are almost guaranteed to be grid-intertied, meaning they are connected to the grid and run the meter backwards when it's sunny.

Literal "off-grid" electrical system means no meter, and a battery bank to store the energy. Battery bank requires maintenance and also a careful, electricity-minimized lifestyle, by which I mean: unless they had a huge photovoltaic array (bigger than what I see on the roof), no electric heat, no electric range, no electric water heater.*

Does anyone recall from the zillow tour whether the range was electric or gas?


*based on my personal current and past experience living literally off-grid.

Looks like gas maybe? I’ll attach a pic. It came from the video tour.

Edited By Me: The picture is apparently too large to attach.

 

[Rachelj1]

Looks like gas maybe? I’ll attach a pic. It came from the video tour.

Edited By Me: The picture is apparently too large to attach.

See I just figured he meant off grid like more privacy , not a lot of people around them? I don’t think he meant it literal ? I could be wrong .

moo

 

[Laughing]

(forgot to insert quote -- this is in reply to @Laughing )

Disagree -- those solar panels are almost guaranteed to be grid-intertied, meaning they are connected to the grid and run the meter backwards when it's sunny.

Literal "off-grid" electrical system means no meter, and a battery bank to store the energy. Battery bank requires maintenance and also a careful, electricity-minimized lifestyle, by which I mean: unless they had a huge photovoltaic array (bigger than what I see on the roof), no electric heat, no electric range, no electric water heater.*

Does anyone recall from the zillow tour whether the range was electric or gas?


*based on my personal current and past experience living literally off-grid.

Yup!

 

[nyvictoria]

See I just figured he meant off grid like more privacy , not a lot of people around them? I don’t think he meant it literal ? I could be wrong .

moo

I think he meant privacy, as well. They were in an apartment prior to moving to Cal City, weren’t they? I think he wanted the privacy that a house would provide. Most people would want a house so the kids could enjoy the fresh air and play in the backyard safely. I guess that wasn’t as important to the Wests.

 

[rosesfromangels]

I think he meant privacy, as well. They were in an apartment prior to moving to Cal City, weren’t they? I think he wanted the privacy that a house would provide. Most people would want a house so the kids could enjoy the fresh air and play in the backyard safely. I guess that wasn’t as important to the Wests.

I’m giving them a pass on this one. With six small children, they needed more space, and I’m sure this was off the grid compared to their previous populated location.

amateur opinion and speculation

 

[MsBetsy]

There is a 13 year old girl named Neveah Freeman who recently went missing from Bakersfield on January 15th. I can't find many details about what happened.

I think I read that as of June 2020, there were 15 children missing from that area, so including Orson and Orrin, that makes 18 kids still missing from Kern County.

Where can the boys be? It's been almost two months, I hope LE makes a statement soon.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

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[Knox]

KGET 17 News[URL='https://twitter.com/KGETnews']@KGETnews[/URL]
New billboard goes up along Highway 99 seeking information for missing California City boys

 

[imstilla.grandma]

The new billboard was spotted on southbound of Highway 99 near the Norris Road exit. It shows images of 3-year-old Orson and 4-year-old Orrin along with information about the reward for over $120,000.
New billboard goes up along Highway 99 seeking information for missing California City boys | KGET 17

 

[imstilla.grandma]

KGET 17 News@KGETnews
New billboard goes up along Highway 99 seeking information for missing California City boys

Jinx! You owe me a coke. lol. And can I have it right now? I’m so thirsty. Can it be an ice cold coke?

 

[imstilla.grandma]

(forgot to insert quote -- this is in reply to @Laughing )

Disagree -- those solar panels are almost guaranteed to be grid-intertied, meaning they are connected to the grid and run the meter backwards when it's sunny.

Literal "off-grid" electrical system means no meter, and a battery bank to store the energy. Battery bank requires maintenance and also a careful, electricity-minimized lifestyle, by which I mean: unless they had a huge photovoltaic array (bigger than what I see on the roof), no electric heat, no electric range, no electric water heater.*

Does anyone recall from the zillow tour whether the range was electric or gas?


*based on my personal current and past experience living literally off-grid.

Adding to your list: water well (my son bought acreage out in the boondocks -he’s staying with us until he gets his well built -after he puts in a concrete retaining wall) He’s been working to clear the land for two years. Oh yeah, and where’s the outhouse in their backyard? There is no Starbucks or McDonalds. The only buildings in his town are a post office and a one stop gas/food/drink.


https://www.turnto23.com/news/local...rothers-now-displayed-on-billboard-in-oildale

 

[PommyMommy]

Adding to your list: water well (my son bought acreage out in the boondocks -he’s staying with us until he gets his well built -after he puts in a concrete retaining wall) He’s been working to clear the land for two years. Oh yeah, and where’s the outhouse in their backyard? There is no Starbucks or McDonalds. The only buildings in his town are a post office and a one stop gas/food/drink.

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https://www.turnto23.com/news/local...rothers-now-displayed-on-billboard-in-oildale

From the link:

The boys biological family told 23ABC News Saturday that they are working to get the boys' photos on two more billboards in the Bakersfield area.

The next billboard is expected to go up near the 58 East and Mount Vernon Avenue over the next week.

 

[Aloe]

From the link:

The boys biological family told 23ABC News Saturday that they are working to get the boys' photos on two more billboards in the Bakersfield area.

The next billboard is expected to go up near the 58 East and Mount Vernon Avenue over the next week.

Bakersfield is a sprawling city. Norris @ 99 is north of Bakersfield in Oildale, the news said the billboard is on the southbound side. Mt. Vernon @ 58 is in East Bakersfield. Maybe they will place one south of Bakersfield where Hwy 99 and Interstate 5 merge.

 

[PommyMommy]

FEB 13, 2021
Photos of missing California City toddlers now on Bakersfield billboard

 

[JudiK]

FEB 13, 2021
Photos of missing California City toddlers now on Bakersfield billboard

I am so glad to wake up to seeing this. Hopefully it will jog someone's memory. Someone has to know something!!

 

[Bbybluz]

Happy Valentines Day Orrin (Classic) & Orson (Cinsere). I hope wherever you are you feel the love so many of us have for you!

#wherearetheboys

 

[Rachelj1]

Where are the boys ??!!! That’s so great about the billboards , keep their faces everywhere ... so no one thinks it’s going away especially!!!