Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020

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They are listed because that is what they were also known as. IMO
I have to wonder then how common that is, when two toddlers in foster care for a couple years, get adopted and have their names changed.
These are wee little humans, I dont suspect they remember what they used to be called.
It just strikes me as odd.

jmo
 
Changing a child’s given name at birth can be a heated debate within the adoption community. Some believe that parents should name the child when adopting, others believe that if the birth parents have named the child then the name ought to remain unchanged. Some people strongly believe that you ought to maintain any and all possible connections, including the given name, that a child may have to their birth family. How do you know when it is appropriate to change your child’s name, and when you should keep the given name?

To be honest, there is no rule set in stone regarding what to do in these situations. If there were an actual rule written somewhere, it would lighten the stress load for adoptive parents who are not sure what they should do. Then, they could look to the rule book and follow along. Or, if they are the rebellious type, they could break the rules and welcome the judgment that follows.

But, as we all know and have heard many times, there is no parenting manual.

There are no rules in parenting. Nobody can tell you what is right or wrong. We are all just winging it and hoping we are making the best decisions. As long as the best interest of the child is at the heart of your decisions, you are doing a good job! And, no matter what you do, there will be those who disagree. So, the truth is, you need to decide if you feel it is appropriate to change your child’s name at adoption.

When Is It Appropriate to Change Your Child’s Name?
 
I'm an adoptee. By sheer coincidence, one of the two girl names my parents had picked out matched the name my bio-mom gave me. They chose a new middle name.

Then they mostly called me by a nickname, as was custom in my dad's family.

My personal belief is that it was up to my parents to decide my name and I wouldn't have wanted it any other way. My parents are of course the people who raised me. Mom and dad.
 
It is odd to me that birth names is listed in the missing info. I thought most adoption records are sealed.

It's because the birth mother is all over the media releasing this information. She's also telling people she was still trying to get them back, which I find kind of odd. Her rights were long terminated and she hadn't seen them in over 2 years.
 
I'm an adoptee. By sheer coincidence, one of the two girl names my parents had picked out matched the name my bio-mom gave me. They chose a new middle name.

Then they mostly called me by a nickname, as was custom in my dad's family.

My personal belief is that it was up to my parents to decide my name and I wouldn't have wanted it any other way. My parents are of course the people who raised me. Mom and dad.
And look at you. A stable person as your parents raised you to be.
 
The kids may actually answer to their birth names. They were under their grandmother’s care, and as far as I know, they went to the West’s care and got adopted last year, but I might be wrong. Either way, they were adopted in 2019, the oldest boy would be 3. I have a really hard time believing a 3 year old wouldn’t know his name.

So yeah, he remembers. I have a 3-year-old niece, she knows her name. We have a bunch of nicknames for her, but she knows her name.

Plus, we don’t know when the contact with birth mother stopped if it ever stopped. So, if they were still getting visits from their mother, I’m sure she was calling them by the names she gave them.

I actually wonder if someone was supposed to visit this family on Christmas or if they were supposed to go visit someone, making the absence of two toddlers very hard to explain. If you know what I mean.

I would also like to see recent pictures of this children. Where are the recent pictures?
 
My guess would be because if the boys were found, they may identify with their birth names, seeing as they new names are still somewhat new.
True. They were reportedly adopted in April 2019 so their names likely were legally changed in the past year or so. Someone else might know them by their birth names, too.

I don't know if that means the adoption process began in April or was finalized in April 2019, though. It's not really clear in media reports. Imo
 
Search continues for missing boys Orrin and Orson West, reported missing Monday

"Lamiya Patrick, a California City resident also told 23ABC that the believed to be foster parents have not come out of the house besides to speak to law enforcement."

“He came out and spoke to the police but he did not come out and greet the people who are trying to help find the babies,” said Patrick.

“The parents haven’t come out to say boo, or hi, or thank you for helping or anything,” added Wood.

"23ABC did speak to the believed to foster father of the two missing boys, but he declined an interview and wished to keep his name private."
 
Community holds prayer vigil for two boys missing in California City | KGET 17

"City leaders have also helped in the search for these little boys."

“I was out here a couple nights ago, there were several people out here,” said Jeanie O’Laughlin, the Mayor of California City. “I brought blankets out and people were walking. Everybody’s concerned, almost everybody I run into that’s the first thing they say – ‘Have you heard anything about those babies."

"The mayor, a couple of police officers, and dozens of local residents came together to pray for justice."
 
Changing a child’s given name at birth can be a heated debate within the adoption community. Some believe that parents should name the child when adopting, others believe that if the birth parents have named the child then the name ought to remain unchanged. Some people strongly believe that you ought to maintain any and all possible connections, including the given name, that a child may have to their birth family. How do you know when it is appropriate to change your child’s name, and when you should keep the given name?

To be honest, there is no rule set in stone regarding what to do in these situations. If there were an actual rule written somewhere, it would lighten the stress load for adoptive parents who are not sure what they should do. Then, they could look to the rule book and follow along. Or, if they are the rebellious type, they could break the rules and welcome the judgment that follows.

But, as we all know and have heard many times, there is no parenting manual.

There are no rules in parenting. Nobody can tell you what is right or wrong. We are all just winging it and hoping we are making the best decisions. As long as the best interest of the child is at the heart of your decisions, you are doing a good job! And, no matter what you do, there will be those who disagree. So, the truth is, you need to decide if you feel it is appropriate to change your child’s name at adoption.

When Is It Appropriate to Change Your Child’s Name?

It is a tough and very personal decision I think. Personally if you are adopting a new baby I think its absolutely fine to give them a name you have chosen but if adopting older children who already have a name and an identity I don't think it is fair to take their name away but that is of course my personal opinion and I wouldn't seek to impose it on anyone else.
 
True. They were reportedly adopted in April 2019 so their names likely were legally changed in the past year or so. Someone else might know them by their birth names, too.

I don't know if that means the adoption process began in April or was finalized in April 2019, though. It's not really clear in media reports. Imo
I believe that's when it was finalized. Here in California it's a long process. They do a family assessment which is six months to a year and then after that is done, anywhere from 1-6 months for everything to become final.
 
I am wondering if anyone connected to these children in the past snatched them. The disappearance being in such close proximity to Xmas makes me wonder this. Emotions run high during the holidays, and perhaps someone made an impetuous decision.

This is a wild card theory, but I can't help but hang on to the hope that they will still be found alive...against the odds.
Prayers continued

Amateur opinion and speculation
 
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