Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020

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  • #681
Wow, if there isn't any proof of them living there, this gets even worse
I just learned about this about these two sweet boys today. Going to sit on my hands. MOO
 
  • #682
Ha, thanks for the welcome :) I’ve actually been around forever, I just didn’t make an account for YEARS.

I’m not saying there’s not a lot of suspicious things going on, I just think we need to be careful when painting broad generalizations on how people “should” act.
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Yes, I have no problem with that.

Waiting for news or an update is hard in this case, as it involves basically very young, helpless children. :(
If they were maybe 12-13, one might hope they'd 'run away' and were hiding out with a friend ?
Even then any responsible adult upon finding out-- would call the parents or police, to let them know!
So, yeah --this is heartbreaking.
Hoping for good news but it's looking grim.
Imo.
 
  • #683
Sadly I don’t think these boys ever lived in that house. I think it was coming up to Christmas and other family would be expecting to see the boys and this is the story they came up with!
Moo
 
  • #684
Sadly I don’t think these boys ever lived in that house. I think it was coming up to Christmas and other family would be expecting to see the boys and this is the story they came up with!
Moo
Unfortunately, I think you may be correct :(
I pray they find them soon.
 
  • #685
Someone said there are alot of RSO's in that town so I checked. YIKES - there certainly are! Heads up on that dynamic

Amateur opinion and speculation
 
  • #686
Sadly I don’t think these boys ever lived in that house. I think it was coming up to Christmas and other family would be expecting to see the boys and this is the story they came up with!
Moo
I agree. I believe the dad deliberately said how they’ve been staying inside all the time bc of COVID to stay ahead of questions about nobody seeing them. He’s only spoke publicly for about ten minutes and made a point to say how they’ve been strict about stay at home order. I’d be interested to see if LE has video showing then going in/out of town often.
I didn’t see the van. Does it have windows? Would video from local businesses be able to see if passengers were in the back anytime both the mom and dad were out and about.
 
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Someone said there are alot of RSO's in that town so I checked. YIKES - there certainly are! Heads up on that dynamic

Amateur opinion and speculation
That is one the top things LEO check when there is a missing child.
The other children were removed from the home, and LE served a search warrant with guns drawn. So I don't think any of the usual creepers have anything to do with it. MOO
 
  • #690
Anyone know if the adoptive parents own or rent that house?
 
  • #691
Wow. I don’t even know what to say to that clip.
I understand tensions run high, but please let LE do their jobs! MOO
If that's the way people excuse bad behavior, I feel for local LE. They are going to have their hands full at a time when they are already overtaxed.
 
  • #692
If that's the way people feel about bad behavior, I feel for local LE. They are going to have their hands full at a time when they are already overtaxed.
Absolutely agree. I know things look really bad for the adoptive parents, BUT LE have named NO suspects at this point.

IF they are truly innocent, there’s no way they can safely stay at that home IMO
(I’m not saying they are innocent)
 
  • #693
Anyone know if the adoptive parents own or rent that house?
Own, it's been bought and sold three times in three years. The latest in September of this year.
 
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Absolutely agree. I know things look really bad for the adoptive parents, BUT LE have named NO suspects at this point.

IF they are truly innocent, there’s no way they can safely stay at that home IMO
(I’m not saying they are innocent)
YES - Innocent or guilty, whatever the case. We're better than that - as people, communities and a nation. Vigilantism isn't going to solve anything!
 
  • #696
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Tensions rise amid search for 2 missing #California City boys by KGET #News 7 minutes ago 2 minutes, 30 seconds 7 views - Watch Video HERE > http://bako.com/I/2m4M #Bakersfield


ETA- Good intentions? Just wanted to bring the parents out of the house to talk? That's some scary stuff right there ...
Agreed.
Let LE do their jobs, people !

Also, that gas station attendant showed more concern than some -- that I've noticed so far !
She was speaking so quickly and you could tell she cared about these boys, that she's maybe not even met if they didn't make it to this address. :(
Imo.
 
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Even if the older children were not attending in person school, you'd still think children would be outside and visible to neighbors at some point. MOO
 
  • #699
Even if the older children were not attending in person school, you'd still think children would be outside and visible to neighbors at some point. MOO
Sounds eerily like the now infamous Turpins

Amateur opinion and speculation
 
  • #700
YES - Innocent or guilty, whatever the case. We're better than that - as people, communities and a nation. Vigilantism isn't going to solve anything!
Sounds more like vandalism to me. I don't know how they think trespassing on private property and breaking windows is going to help investigators find the boys.
 
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