Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020

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  • #121
It seems some here have given up on the possibility of a rescue. :(
I think with everything that's transpired with the dog, them towing the parents van, the interviews done by police and then what happened last night, it seems like a forgone conclusion unfortunately. It would be great to see them found alive but, IMO, I don't see that happening
 
  • #122
These poor little boys should be looking forward to Christmas tomorrow.
Heartbreaking.....:(
 
  • #123
I always tell myself not to click on these children threads and then I do. Sigh.
I pray to God in Heaven this isn't another Maliyah Bass or Sherin Mathews scenario.

Against the odds, praying for a miracle that these tikes are still alive and harm free. I know it's a long shot, but still need to hang on to that small shred of possibility.

Ugh. Dang it.

Amateur opinion and speculation
 
  • #124
I think with everything that's transpired with the dog, them towing the parents van, the interviews done by police and then what happened last night, it seems like a forgone conclusion unfortunately. It would be great to see them found alive but, IMO, I don't see that happening

I somehow missed the info about the dog. Can you link to that please?
TIA
 
  • #125
I think with everything that's transpired with the dog, them towing the parents van, the interviews done by police and then what happened last night, it seems like a forgone conclusion unfortunately. It would be great to see them found alive but, IMO, I don't see that happening

I thought I read the entire thread, but I have no idea what you're talking about (dog? Something happened last night?) Maybe I missed a whole page of the thread accidentally. I'm going back.

@rosesfromangels Sherin, yes, her adoptive parents were monsters behind closed doors.
 
  • #126
I somehow missed the info about the dog. Can you link to that please?
TIA
It was in a post earlier in the thread. Hit scent inside the house but stopped outside.
 
  • #127
I thought I read the entire thread, but I have no idea what you're talking about (dog? Something happened last night?) Maybe I missed a whole page of the thread accidentally. I'm going back.

@rosesfromangels Sherin, yes, her adoptive parents were monsters behind closed doors.
They had brought in a dog on Tuesday and hit on a scent inside but stopped outside. And then last night, crime scene tape went up and they were searching the back yard for something
 
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“Police say they searched this house last night with K9s looking for the scent of the two boys inside. They smelled the scent inside the house, but they didn’t smell it leaving the house. So police are concerned that the children never even left the house”
 
  • #131
I believe the tape has been removed but will ask one of the neighbors that I know. Some of the area was blocked off last night in an effort to just give the neighbors a break from the onslaught of loitering types and people wanting to "help" or gawk. But it was also to give the LEOs a buffer so they could process the forensic search of where the boys were reportedly last seen. From what I know of CCPD they are often tight lipped about things like this, and it's not their first major case. Unfortunately, they have seen a lot of things like this for such a small town. One of the problems with this town (and I know having lived there for 10 years) is that because it is so remote it often attracts those who are trying to hide from the law. Probation and parole sweeps are very common out there. They had a major SWAT event just last week, and a man who had been missing for several years was finally found out in the vast desert. The town is known of it's missing people and unsolved murders, unfortunately. At least the locals are very familiar. It doesn't make the mainstream news very often. There's ONE hotel in town, a Best Western. There is no full-service grocery store, that's about 25 miles away in Mojave, though there is a small market a RiteAid and a Family Dollar. For some reason there are a ridiculous number of Mexican food and pizza restaurants, but only one fast food, a McDonald's that everybody hates. Any trip out of town usually take about 45 minutes to an hour... and people go north to Ridgecrest, west to Tehachapi, south to Lancaster/Palmdale or east to Barstow. So as you can imagine, the community is fairly...insular isn't quite the right word, but you get what I mean.

Quite a few people have been standing there just yelling and screaming at the LEOs, not really sure why. <modsnip: Removed rumor/hearsay>

BTW, I'm not suggesting this is what happened here, but to just give you guys an idea of the terrain we're dealing with. This house is on the eastern edge of town, and the area is very often visited by predatory animals like coyotes and cats. It's very common to find coyote dens in the vacant lots near these homes. There is also a major raptor breeding area just north of town, so large birds of prey are regularly seen out there. I used to live on the north end of town and my backyard was a constant stream of pretty amazing wildlife. It's a remote desert area, but it's also a beautiful area with a lot of wild animals. People in town regularly lose their cats and small dogs to predators.
 
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  • #132
I wonder how this family had the opportunity to adopt Orson and Orrin.
 
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Is there a official missing fb page set up?
 
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Hope this rain were getting now doesn't head that way, don't want to see the efforts getting stopped
 
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I really don’t like the fact that only two of the kids were sent outside while the mom wrapped presents.
 
  • #139
I really don’t like the fact that only two of the kids were sent outside while the mom wrapped presents.
Don't worry, IMO that never happened.
 
  • #140
I really don’t like the fact that only two of the kids were sent outside while the mom wrapped presents.
Yeah that didn't make sense at all. They allegedly sent them out to wrap presents yet the other kids are still in the house?
 
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