CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), MEDIA, MAPS & TIMELINE - NO DISCUSSION

[PommyMommy]

Afternoon Testimony, Part 4
DAY NINE - April 17, 2023
https://twitter.com/KGETnews

(Testimony of Tammie Sullivan, Kern County search and rescue, continues.)

Back in session with Sullivan on the stand being cross-examined by Hennessy. He showed her a transcript of her testimony before the grand jury. #WestsTrial

Sullivan's assignment when she got to the home the first night was to follow the route of the van to see if the boys had been dumped. Sadie, the dog, showed no interest in the van or on a 2-mile walk that led into the desert. #WestsTrial

Hennessy ended his questioning and Torres Stallings asked Sullivan if she was aware if the search of the spot Sadie alerted on returned no human remains. Sullivan said she was aware of that. #WestsTrial

Under redirect examination by Smith, Sullivan said Sadie is trained to know the difference between human and animal remains. #WestsTrial

A law enforcement officer took a couple inches off the mound before Sadie smelled it, Sullivan said. After that layer was removed, Sadie "alerted" by lying down at that area, she said. #WestsTrial

"She was signaling to something. As to exactly what it was, I do not know," Sullivan said. Sullivan has been excused. #WestsTrial

 

[PommyMommy]

Afternoon Testimony, Part 5
DAY NINE - April 17, 2023
https://twitter.com/KGETnews

Detective Paul Hernandez has been called to the stand. He's in the BPD's robbery/homicide division. #WestsTrial

He reviewed multiple videos taken from surveillance footage, looking for any movement at the West home, seeing when people left or arrived, Hernandez said. #WestsTrial

This was from a 24-hour period he reviewed, from midnight on Dec. 21, 2020 to midnight of the next day. #WestsTrial

A motion-activated light turned on but nothing could be seen, then a front porch light later on. At 2:48 a.m. on Dec. 21 the porch light was again activated. There was no movement, Hernandez said. #WestsTrial

At 3:48 a.m. the front porch light again went and turned off a minute later. At 4:05 a.m. a vehicle drives by the residence. Hernandez said he tried to detect movement at the residence or in the yard. #WestsTrial

At 10 a.m. someone walks out the front door of the residence and appears to place items in the trash receptacle, Hernandez said. He does it again a short time later, and again a short time later at 10:06 a.m. #WestsTrial

At 12:21 p.m. someone leaves by the side door of the home and stays on the east portion of the residence for 3-4 minutes, Hernandez said. At 4:12 p.m. someone walks into the rear yard then bends over and stands up multiple times before walking into the home. #WestsTrial

The person entered the home at 4:20 p.m., Hernandez said. The van left the home at 4:33 p.m. At 4:39 p.m. it returned home and someone left the van. #WestsTrial

At 4:51 p.m. there are two people near the van. Shortly afterward law enforcement arrives. They start searching the area. The van leaves again and returns. #WestsTrial

The van returns at 5:05 p.m. The lights are turned off at 5:10 p.m. More officers arrive on scene and canvas the area, Hernandez said. #WestsTrial

Smith has requested to play 3 videos. #WestsTrial

Smith paused a video and Hernandez is pointing out the locations where he saw people or items. #WestsTrial

The video is playing. #WestsTrial
3:49 PM · Apr 17, 2023

Smith is now playing the 2nd video. #WestsTrial
4:05 PM · Apr 17, 2023

The 2nd video has finished and Smith has begun playing the 3rd and last video. All 3 videos are from a surveillance camera on a home west of the West residence, and the videos were from the day the Wests reported Orrin and Orson missing. #WestsTrial
4:24 PM · Apr 17, 2023

 

[PommyMommy]

Afternoon Testimony, Part 6
DAY NINE - April 17, 2023
https://twitter.com/KGETnews

The third video won't be shown in its entirety today. In the videos so far, lights have gone on and off, a couple vehicles are spotted and the Wests' white van drives away. #WestsTrial
4:26 PM · Apr 17, 2023

The van returns and someone gets out. #WestsTrial

Smith has paused the video and court is in recess for the day. The trial will resume at 9 a.m. tomorrow. #WestsTrial

 

[PommyMommy]

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[PommyMommy]

APR 17, 2023

Defense attorney targets interview of Cal City boys’ adoptive mother​

[...]

Ryan further testified he has previously worked on one or two missing children cases while serving in the patrol unit at BPD. He currently works as a BPD liaison for the FBI.

Previously, Ryan testified he examined surveillance video from a house close to the Wests’ residence in California City. He testified the footage showed there were only four children who walked into a van with Jacqueline and Trezell, which to him suggested Orrin and Orson weren’t with the kids.

[...]

Ryan also testified Monday he couldn’t distinguish in the footage each of the four children’s clothing, ages or facial descriptions. He acknowledged he couldn’t tell whether any of the individuals walking to and from the Wests’ house was carrying a child.

[...]

 

[Knox]

This is a lot of tedious stuff for the jury to be absorbing, I wonder if all the recordings/video's are getting to them. Hopefully lot's of caffeine available.

I was able to listen to a bit of the SAR dog handler today, much like all the others - not very professional or convincing
TS however is crushing her crosses, quite the bulldog.

Here's to hoping this is simply the prelude to the solid evidence which will convict Trezell & Jacqueline West.

Thanks Pommy for all your work in keeping us up to date every day!!

 

[PommyMommy]

Morning Testimony, Part 1
DAY 10 - April 18, 2023
https://twitter.com/KGETnews

Det. McNabb on the stand with security video from Superior Grocery and Gasko, taken Dec 19, 2020 at 2:35pm.

Still images shows JW buying something and TW at the counter.

Another image shows JW leaving the store.

One image shows TW in line for the cashier and another shows JW in line.

Trazell enters the store, goes out of frame, goes to counter and leaves the store.

Smith is showing the video from Superior Grocery.

McNabb was tasked with getting surveillance footage from Dec. 12, 2020, at the Gasko Food Mart at 430 E California Avenue, Superior Grocers at 1115 Union Avenue and a McDonald's on Weedpatch Avenue. #WestsTrial

Smith displayed an overhead map showing the locations of the Gasko and Superior Grocery. McNabb identified the locations. #WestsTrial

McNabb has been shown a series of screenshots, still images taken from the Gasko surveillance footage. The footage is from 2:35 p.m. on Dec. 19, 2020. #WestsTrial

Still images from Jacqueline West buying something in the store have been displayed, followed by images of Trezell West at the counter. #WestsTrial

Video footage is being played for the court. McNabb said it's from the interior of the Gasko, showing the entrance out toward the pumps. #WestsTrial

McNabb has identified a woman he believes was Jacqueline West at the counter then leaving the store. #WestsTrial

Trezell West enters the store, McNabb said while watching the footage. He walks out of the camera frame. #WestsTrial

Trezell goes to the counter of the business. He leaves the store. #WestsTrial

After Gasko, McNabb went to Superior Grocers on Union to retrieve surveillance footage. The Wests' white van appears in the footage. #WestsTrial

Smith is playing a video showing the parking lot of Superior Grocers. The camera faces north. Union Avenue is to the east, and California Avenue is to the north. #WestsTrial

Court is in recess for 15 minutes. #WestsTrial

Playing video of Superior Grocery parking lot. The West's white van parks. TW gets out and walks behind van and into the store.

TW puts cart away and enters driver side of van leaving in van.Goes East on California Ave and South on Union Ave.

Attempted to review McDonalds interior video with no success.

When asked if he had seen Orson and Orrin on video, he says he did not.

Smith ends questioning and cross exam from Nasser begins.

McNabb discusses the process of getting the video.

McNabb states there was no exterior video from Gas.

They were unable to get interior video from Superior Grocery because of unanswered calls from Manager.

McNabb is excused.

 

[PommyMommy]

Detective Phillip Richardi from BPD takes the stand.He was tasks with getting video surveillance from Dollar General on Cottonwood Road on Jan 8, 2021.

Prosecutor Smith displays map showing location of store.

The wests has stated they made a purchase at the store.He was looking at video from Sept 12,16, 20 and 22 2020.

On the 12th video he sees TW ride a bike to the Dollar General and purchase a case of water. On the 16th TW arrives at the store in the van, goes in and purchases item and leaves.

Sept 22 video he sees TW go in and purchase and leave. He states he never saw anyone else in video.

No cross exam and Det. Richardi is excused.

Court is in recess until 1:30.

Still Missing - CA - Classic (Orson West, 3) & Cincere (Orrin West, 4) Calif. City, *parents charged* 21 Dec 2020 #8

Detective Phillip Richardi from BPD takes the stand.He was tasks with getting video surveillance from Dollar General on Cottonwood Road on Jan 8, 2021. Prosecutor Smith displays map showing location of store. The wests has stated they made a purchase at the store.He was looking at video from...

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[PommyMommy]

Det. Steven Pace with BPD is on stand and showing video of Lassers Grocery on California Ave. with a grocery receipt to retrieve video from Dec. 5 2020 at 11:59 am.

Video from the store shows TW in checkout line, makes purchase and leaves.

Video from same day at 12:38pm of Smart and Final on Stockade Highway. TW made a purchased a large quantity of items and left.

Video from another Smart and Final on White lane. On Dec 20 shows TW making purchase. Let. Pace retrieved a receipt of TW's purchase that day.

Another location Pace went to was The Wooden Nickel Trading company and retrieved a receipt where TW purchased a knife with 2 side straps.

Under cross Pace states TW used a debit card.

Det. Pace is excused.

Still Missing - CA - Classic (Orson West, 3) & Cincere (Orrin West, 4) Calif. City, *parents charged* 21 Dec 2020 #8

Detective Phillip Richardi from BPD takes the stand.He was tasks with getting video surveillance from Dollar General on Cottonwood Road on Jan 8, 2021. Prosecutor Smith displays map showing location of store. The wests has stated they made a purchase at the store.He was looking at video from...

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[PommyMommy]

Det. John Billdt with BPD takes the stand. Jan 20,2020 wrote a search warrant for credit report of the Wests.

Submitted report to Experian, Equifax and Experian.

From Equifax he found a homeland taken out on Sept. 2020 and Strata overdraft protection.

Billdt received evidence taken from 2 chrome books associated with 2 of the Wests children.

On March 17,2021 Billdt went to the AMPM on Madera to retrieve a video that shows a white Ford van in the lot and a female juvenile with an adult get out of the van.

Det Billdt is excused with no cross exam.

Still Missing - CA - Classic (Orson West, 3) & Cincere (Orrin West, 4) Calif. City, *parents charged* 21 Dec 2020 #8

Detective Phillip Richardi from BPD takes the stand.He was tasks with getting video surveillance from Dollar General on Cottonwood Road on Jan 8, 2021. Prosecutor Smith displays map showing location of store. The wests has stated they made a purchase at the store.He was looking at video from...

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[PommyMommy]

Louise James from BPD a task officer with the Dept of Homeland Security takes the stand.

On Dec. 23 2020 James went to Cali City to assist liaison officers and write warrants.

He wrote warrants for 4 cellphones related to the case.

He sent warrants to T-Mobile and Metro PCS.

He received detailed data from JW's phone, some shows GPS and cellphone data.

4 different phone numbers associated with 2 phones. One of the phones switched SIM card.

James wrote warrants for Facebook and Instagram.

He wrote warrants associated with TW and JW.

He reviewed the warrants and provided to FBI.

Smith ended questioning of James and Stallings cross examines.

James says he was in Cali. City for 5 days and did not requests phone data and social media from Orrin and Orson's bio family.

James says he relied on the info from the police and FBI to write his warrants. Warrants need probable cause.

James is excused.

Still Missing - CA - Classic (Orson West, 3) & Cincere (Orrin West, 4) Calif. City, *parents charged* 21 Dec 2020 #8

Detective Phillip Richardi from BPD takes the stand.He was tasks with getting video surveillance from Dollar General on Cottonwood Road on Jan 8, 2021. Prosecutor Smith displays map showing location of store. The wests has stated they made a purchase at the store.He was looking at video from...

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[PommyMommy]

Clifton Taylor a specialist with Kern County Dept. of Human Services.He is reading a record of confidentiality of the records in your possession.

Showing the 5 steps to becoming a foster parent. Attend Orientation, submit background check, attend training and home inspections.

Other children in the home are interviewed when someone applies to adopt.Parents go through a series of interviews.

You would not be able to adopt if fostering is your main income.

Taylor is not aware of followups to see if they have same income after the adoption.

No guidelines on how much a person must make to adopt.

Typically money for each child adopted starts at $1,200. a month.

One resource officer assigned to each family and home visits once a month.

On occasion DNA will be taken from a child to establish paternity in a juvenile case.

Current photos of the child should be in their case files.

If a child goes missing here are no other means to identify a child besides perhaps medical records.

Foster children get medical evaluations once a month and babies every few months.

Behavioral issues assessed once a year.

Smith asks if there are rules on sharing photos of the child to other family members, Taylor says no.

To adopt the parents are asked a series of questions regarding their health, mental health and trauma from childhood.

If a child can not be reunited with birth family a foster parent or permanent home is looked for.

The process starts with reunification ending, child is freed for adoption and birth parents make an appeal.

Something is sent to the state to get permission to move forward with adoption.A meeting is set up to sign paperwork, filling out what the birth certificate will look like and financial assistance they receive.

Court is in 15 min. break.

Still Missing - CA - Classic (Orson West, 3) & Cincere (Orrin West, 4) Calif. City, *parents charged* 21 Dec 2020 #8

Detective Phillip Richardi from BPD takes the stand.He was tasks with getting video surveillance from Dollar General on Cottonwood Road on Jan 8, 2021. Prosecutor Smith displays map showing location of store. The wests has stated they made a purchase at the store.He was looking at video from...

www.websleuths.com

 

[PommyMommy]

Afternoon Testimony
DAY 10 - April 18, 2023
https://twitter.com/KGETnews

(Continuation of testimony from Clifton Taylor, a program specialist of the Kern County Department of Human Services)

Court is back in session. A judge or juvenile court would make a decision that a child is now free to be adopted. #WestsTrial
3:19 PM · Apr 18, 2023

From the time parental rights are terminated to a completed adoption takes a year to 18 months, Taylor said. #WestsTrial

Judge Charles R. Brehmer told the jury Taylor did nothing wrong when he cited certain codes before giving his testimony, and that the questioning of him won't go into areas he's not allowed to speak about due to confidentiality issues. #WestsTrial

Children are questioned if they would like to continue living in the foster home before they're adopted, if they enjoy living there. #WestsTrial

There's not a specific medical exam, but they have their annual exam completed to see if there are any developmental needs the child has, Taylor said. #WestsTrial

There are times when two families are competing to adopt the same child, Taylor said, but generally the foster home where the child was placed will have the advantage. #WestsTrial

A judge is present for the adoption to make it legal as it's a court proceeding, Taylor said. After adoption, there is "minimal" contact with the child and DHS. They're not actively monitored after that time, he said. #WestsTrial

There is no verification process Taylor is aware of to determine whether the stipend the adoptive parents get for the child is the sole source of income. #WestsTrial

Every 2 years they must fill out paperwork to keep getting the stipend, Taylor said. #WestsTrial

The renewal of the stipend doesn't include a home visit. #WestsTrial

Generally, once an adoption is completed you can't turn the child back in to the state if there are issues, Taylor said. There are counseling services they can link the family to, he said. #WestsTrial

If CPS removes the child from the home, the adoptive family would be responsible for child support, Taylor said. #WestsTrial

Asked about the Jamison Center, Taylor said it's a temporary shelter in Kern County for children. They try not to have them there for more than a few days. #WestsTrial

The children taken in a criminal investigation would be placed in an emergency foster home or, briefly, in the Jamison Center, Taylor said. #WestsTrial

A judge would make an order to remove children from the home and what visitation the parents would have, Taylor said. #WestsTrial

 

[PommyMommy]

Afternoon Testimony
DAY 10 - April 18, 2023
https://twitter.com/KGETnews

(Cross-examination of Clifton Taylor, a program specialist of the Kern County Department of Human Services)

Torres Stallings has begun cross-examination. #WestsTrial

Taylor said he's not aware of how many children in the foster system are Black, Hispnanic or white. He doesn't know the percentage of children who are Black or Hispanic who are reunited with their families. #WestsTrial

Across the board it's about 50 percent, he said. #WestsTrial

Torres Stallings is going over the process when there is a referral to CPS. She asked how much time the parent has until a child is removed from their home. Taylor said once the warrant is signed they do it immediately, there is no time frame. #WestsTrial

Recommendations to the judge will involve multiple social workers, Taylor said. The court social worker gets info from other social workers who investigate the referral. The judge then makes a determination. #WestsTrial

When a child is removed from a home, relatives would be considered for placement of the child. For example, if a boyfriend or husband was involved in an incident, the birth mother might be considered if she lived in another residence and had minimal contact with him. #WestsTrial

Taylor testified he has been to the Jamison Center 10 to 20 times. Under questioning by Torres Stallings, he said younger children are placed out of the center immediately, within hours. He said he believes the baseline for emergency foster care is 4 and under. #WestsTrial

Taylor said he's unaware of rapes and robberies at the Jamison Center. He is aware of assaults that occur there. #WestsTrial

A sidebar has been called following an objection by Smith. #WestsTrial

Attorneys and judge are back. #WestsTrial

In a 14-day notice, a foster family can write something saying they can no longer have the child in their care. Taylor said the child "may or may not" be made aware of the reason why the family wants them to move. #WestsTrial

Once the notice is filed, the parents, child and DHS and birth parents (if still involved) come together to discuss the issues and see what's best for the child, Taylor said. #WestsTrial

Torres Stallings asked what recourse the foster family has if they don't get along with the social worker assigned to them. Taylor said they could talk with a supervisor to work out issues, or file a formal complaint. #WestsTrial

He said it would be unusual to have another social worker assigned. #WestsTrial

Part of the foster parent process requires looking for a criminal background, as well as checking them in a system called CACI (Child Abuse Central Index) to see if there is a substantiated allegation of child abuse against them any state. #WestsTrial

Asked if he encounters families who say an adoption isn't working out, Taylor said yes. #WestsTrial

Taylor said DHS contracts with an agency for post-adoption services, they would no longer be directly involved. The family's point of contact would probably be Kern County adoptions, and they would refer the family to the agency. #WestsTrial

Taylor testified he doesn't know if those requests by adoptive parents would be noted somewhere. #WestsTrial

The amount given to adoptive parents for a child changes each year, the rates go up, Taylor said. Children with a disability could get a "special care increment," he said. #WestsTrial

Torres Stallings asked if children with those types of issues aren't as readily adopted. Taylor testified children with "more issues" are less likely to be adopted. Torres Stallings ended questioning. #WestsTrial

Taylor has been excused. #WestsTrial

 

[PommyMommy]

Afternoon Testimony
DAY 10 - April 18, 2023
https://twitter.com/KGETnews

Rosa Espinoza has been called to the stand. She is a manager of Casa Loma Apartments on Lotus Lane. #WestsTrial

There are 8 apartments in each of the 14 buildings, she said. #WestsTrial

Espinoza testified Maria Martinez, Jacqueline West, lived in one of the apartments in 2020. She said she is aware Trezell and Jacqueline West had lived in one of the apartments. #WestsTrial

The Wests moved out of the apartment on Sept. 24, 2020, Espinoza said. #WestsTrial

Smith is displaying photos of the exterior of the apartment complex. #WestsTrial

Espinoz identified a trash enclosure that has two bins inside it. #WestsTrial

After Trezell and Jacqueline West moved the apartment was repainted and the carpet changed, she said. There were no complaints from other tenants, she said. #WestsTrial

Smith ended his questioning and Torres Stallings has begun cross-examination. #WestsTrial

The Wests made a maintenance request to fix the AC in the apartment sometime in September of 2018, Espinoza said. #WestsTrial

Espinoza testified she can't recall if they had maintenance requests in 2020 other than a carbon monoxide issue. #WestsTrial

Torres Stallings ended her questioning. Espinoza has been excused. #WestsTrial

 

[PommyMommy]

Afternoon Testimony
DAY 10 - April 18, 2023
https://twitter.com/KGETnews

Alfredo Bayaca has been called to the stand. He works at the Kern Regional Crime Lab. #WestsTrial

Bayaca said he takes photos and documents crime scenes. #WestsTrial

He is a "criminalist" -- a scientist who uses scientific techniques to test evidence brought to them by law enforcement. #WestsTrial

Bayaca testified they can go to a crime scene or process items -- such as a vehicle -- brought to the crime lab. They have vehicle exam bays. #WestsTrial

On Dec. 23, 2020, Cal City requested the Wests' van be examined at the crime lab, Bayaca said. #WestsTrial

Court is in recess until 9 a.m. tomorrow. #WestsTrial

 

[PommyMommy]

APR 18, 2023

West Trial resumes for 10th day​

The day began with Detective Paul Hernandez of the Bakersfield Police Department on the stand. Hernandez examined the surveillance video footage taken from a residence across the street from the Wests' home that was used as evidence in the case. When asked if he had viewed the footage, Hernandez answered "Once or twice."

During cross-examination, Alekxia Torres-Stallings, Jaqueline's defense attorney, pointed out multiple vehicles driving around the residence on the day the boys went missing, contradictory to some previous testimonies. She also pointed out lights inside and outside of the West residence turning on and off.

When asked about the vehicles, Hernandez testified that he did not document any of them in his report, even referring to the report while on the stand to be sure. Hernandez also did not note the lights and said he did not recall if he had seen the lights at the time.

[...]

 

[PommyMommy]

APR 18, 2023

Cal City boys not seen in footage taken days before reported missing: detective​

Jurors were shown surveillance footage Tuesday in which murder suspects Trezell and Jacqueline West visited multiple Bakersfield locations on Dec. 19, 2020, after dropping off four of their six children with relatives.

The Wests said they kept their two youngest — Orrin, 4, and Orson, 3 — with them in their van after leaving the Bakersfield home of Trezell West’s parents. Receipts and statements from the couple indicated they stopped at a convenience store, grocery store and McDonald’s before eventually heading back to their California City home.

Bakersfield police Detective Kyle McNabb reviewed footage from those locations. He spotted Trezell and Jacqueline West.

Orrin and Orson, however, were nowhere to be seen, the detective said.

[...]

 

[PommyMommy]

Morning Testimony, Part 1
DAY ELEVEN - April 19, 2023
Twitter - Bakersfield Now

Court is back in session. #Westtrial
9:16 AM · Apr 19, 2023

Ralph Mosley is at the stand being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-He is the biological father of Cincere Pettus (Orrin West). He says Cincere was born August 4, 2016. He took a mouth swab DNA paternity to learn he was Cincere’s Father. #Westtrial

Ralph Mosley is at the stand being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-He was told Cincere was being adopted. He was told his parental rights were terminated. #Westtrial

Ralph Mosley is at the stand being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-He went to California City two or three days after he saw on the news Cincere and Classic were missing. He went with his wife. #Westtrial

Ralph Mosley is at the stand being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-He did a search in California City. He did not talk to Trezell or Jacqueline West. He has never had contact with Trezell or Jacqueline West. #Westtrial

Ralph Mosley is at the stand being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-Before going to California two or three days after the boys were reported missing he had never been to California City before. #Westtrial

Ralph Mosley is at the stand being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-BPD contacted him and asked him to give them a DNA swab for a paternal test. He did the test and gave it to them. #Westtrial

Ralph Mosley is at the stand being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-Smith asked if at any point he went to California City and took Cincere or Classic. He said no. #Westtrial

Ralph Mosley is at the stand being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys, Torres Stallings-When he went to California City less than 10 people that he considers family, were there. They were not blood family. #Westtrial

Ralph Mosley is at the stand being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys, Torres Stallings-His parental rights were terminated by the court. He had one visit with Classic in 2017 or 201&. That was the last time he saw him. #Westtrial

Ralph Mosley has been excused. #Westtrial

 

[PommyMommy]

Morning Testimony, Part 2
DAY ELEVEN - April 19, 2023
Twitter - Bakersfield Now

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being is at the stand speaking through at interpreter. She told prosecuting attorney Eric Smith she lives at Casa Loma Apartments on Lotus Lane. She has lived there for 10 years. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being is at the stand speaking through at interpreter. She told prosecuting attorney Eric Smith on September 19, 2020 her daughter left for Massachusetts. Her daughter had lived in Casa Loma Apartments. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being is at the stand speaking through at interpreter. She told prosecuting attorney Eric Smith on September 19, 2020 She was in her apartment, cleaning it up until almost 11PM. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being is at the stand speaking through at interpreter. She told prosecuting attorney Eric Smith on September 19, 2020 she walked out of her daughter’s apartment and saw a couple came out of the dumpster, a man and a woman. #Westtria

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-She said a man and a woman said the man was tall dark skinned, slim. The woman had light skin, curly and wavy and hair down about 6 to 8 inches below her shoulder. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-She saw the couple carrying an ice chest. It was blue with a white lid. They were each holding a handle. Smith asked her how big it was. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-She spread out her hands and said it was about this big. The judge took out a tape measure and said it was 21 inches. They came out of the dumpster and she saw me head on. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-They got on the curb and crossed on the curb in front. They were walking very slowly. They were speaking in English and laughing very loudly. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-When they came out the dumpster area they were by themselves. They walked to a die walk. They stopped and saw her again. They continued walking and went into an apartment. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-They grabbed something, something skinny. The man placed it on his shoulder. They continued walking like they were going to the grass area and then they made a turn. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-When they walked to the grassy area they were by themselves. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-Her daughter lived in building G. The trash can area was near that. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-She is describing the path the man and woman she saw took from the apartment to the dumpster. #Westrrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-She saw the man before that once. He had a stick in one hand and a diaper in another. That time was a month prior to when she saw him with the woman and the ice chest. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-Smith is showing a police report of Trezell West with his picture. She confirmed that picture was the man he observed, he just didn’t have the mustache that he did in the picture. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by Eric Smith-Smith is showing a police report of Jacqueline West with her picture. She confirmed that picture was the woman she observed, because her beautiful hair stood out to her. It was wavy.#Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by Eric Smith-She spoke about this with a neighbor Laura Aguirre. She called law enforcement and told them about this. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by Eric Smith-She says the couple was by themselves this whole time when she saw them in September. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys Fatima Rodriguez-The people she saw carried a blue cooler with a white lid. She confirmed she never saw them throw something into the dumpster. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys Fatima Rodriguez-What prompted her to look was the noise she heard. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys Fatima Rodriguez-She did an interview with two police officers, one translating on January 7, 2021. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys Fatima Rodriguez-Fatima asked her do you remember telling law enforcement you never saw her face? She said saw her face. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys Fatima Rodriguez-On January 7, 2021, she tells officers her friend Laura Aguirre sent her a link of the West’s press conference outside of their home in California City. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys Fatima Rodriguez-She was going to go out of town and Laura told her these kids were missing and Maria said what kids. Laura asked her to look at the Wests carefully. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys Fatima Rodriguez-When she saw the press conference she noticed it was the same man and woman she saw. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys Fatima Rodriguez-Rodriguez asked Salas if she remembers telling law enforcement she did not see the man and woman’s face. She said no I don’t. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys Fatima Rodriguez-She says she doesn’t remember telling law enforcement there wasn’t enough light and it was hard to see. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys Fatima Rodriguez-She says maybe the Officers misunderstood me or translated it incorrectly. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys Fatima Rodriguez-She says the light came on when they went to the dumpster. She could see them very clearly. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by defense attorney Fatima Rodriguez-Rodriguez asked do you not remember telling officers you could not see their faces and that it was too dark to see and now two years later you are saying you could see them? #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by defense attorney Fatima Rodriguez-She said no I don’t remember that. I remember that day very well. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys, Fatima Rodriguez-She confirmed those DMV photos of Trezell and Jacqueline were the people she saw. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys, Fatima Rodriguez-Rodriguez said at a prior hearing you said the male looked lighter and the female’s face looked fuller. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys, Fatima Rodriguez-She said yeah his face is going to look lighter when it is in the light. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys, Fatima Rodriguez-Rodriguez asked her do you remember telling law enforcement you saw two black people? Maria responded he was black, not her. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys, Fatima Rodriguez-She said I’ll repeat myself, the couple I saw on the news was the couple I saw. I saw them very clearly. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas’s interpreter is translating for her the report of the interview she had with law enforcement January 7, 2020. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys, Fatima Rodriguez-Rodriguez asked why did you lie to law enforcement that you didn’t see the man and woman’s faces and that it was too dark. She said maybe because I was nervous . #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys, Fatima Rodriguez-I felt since that night something wasn’t right and I sensed danger and felt fear. #Westtrial