Identified! CA - Pacifica, WhtFem 593UFCA, 25-46, found in tent, Jun'06 - Christine Kuhn

[tamar]

Webrocket- I believe that is her booking photo before death-- she gave false information to LE.

 

[webrocket]

Webrocket- I believe that is her booking photo before death-- she gave false information to LE.

see what happens when I read things too literally!

 

[bflocket]

I'm in a rush, so I may have just overlooked this...

Did she "give" (ie tell/say) the birthplace as Louisville, Jefferson Co, KY?

If that's what she said, she should indeed have ties to the area. With Louisville indeed in Jefferson County, she seemed to know. It's different from LA, where there is indeed an LA County also (no "Louisville County" in KY),

 

[Sue Doe Nimm]

There is a missing persons FB page called Seeking the Lost. The page has recently posted a photo of a woman wanted for child . My first thought was that the woman looks so similar to this Jane Doe.

They caught the woman in the child video maybe a month and a half ago, so unless she's a walker she isn't Sam Smith.

I know someone mentioned a possible match for a woman who required medication due to a high ammonia level in her liver. Unmedicated, that condition would kill her much sooner than ten years after her disappearance. I'd say within a few months at the most.

This lady really gets to me. My uncle is schizophrenic, and the idea that she died alone from such a horrible illness breaks my heart. I pray that her identity is discovered soon, and that her final resting place will be one that has her name and more peace than she had in life.

 

[sfbaynancydrew]

Hi everyone, just checking out this forum.

In regards to her eyebrows, she could have had them permanently shaped (electrolysis, laser, etc) back when she was having expensive dental work and skin treatment. She may have once cared very much about her appearance.

If she *is* mentally ill (and she sounds like it from her descriptions and that picture), her family may have just written her off years ago. It's really sad that no one has noticed or cared that she's gone.

 

[carbuff]

Her NamUs entry: https://identifyus.org/en/cases/10647

Not a lot there -- but 31 names on the ruleouts list.

Kathryn Adam 1958 Kansas
Peggy Ashley-Vinson 1977 Kentucky
Stephanie Banks 1976 Kentucky
Sonya Bradley 1967 Kentucky
Michelle Burchell 1972 Kentucky
Rose Cole 1956 California
Zola Combs 1956 Kentucky
Joyce Crider 1970 Kentucky
Vicky De Laurier 1961 Kentucky
Loy Evitts 1947 Kansas
Sandra Fisher 1947 Kentucky
Paula Godfrey 1965 Kansas
Shannon Green 1969 Kentucky
Ylva Hagner 1954 California
Dawn Haines 1967 Kentucky
Carole Hamilton 1971 Kentucky
Angelia Hilbert 1966 Kentucky
Ginger Hudson 1960 Kansas
Mary Lang 1952 Kansas
Barbara Laster 1964 Kentucky
Elizabeth Maggard 1961 Kentucky
Georgia Nolan 1946 Kentucky
Bridgett Pendell-Williamson 1973 California
Angela Pilkerton 1960 Kentucky
Susan Riedling 1967 Kentucky
Sherry Roach 1959 California
Martha Shelton 1944 Kentucky
Patrick Sturbaum 1921 California
Carol Sullens 1972 Kansas
Margaret Warrington 1962 Kentucky
Rose West 1944 Kentucky

 

[sfbaynancydrew]

Thank you carbuff, excellent to know the ruleouts.

Has she been ruled out as Anna Christian Waters? I know it's far fetched, but same neck of the woods, matches description and with the fake name...just wondering.

 

[carbuff]

Thank you carbuff, excellent to know the ruleouts.

Has she been ruled out as Anna Christian Waters? I know it's far fetched, but same neck of the woods, matches description and with the fake name...just wondering.

No, and the other name I don't see on the list is Monica Appleton. I thought there was a ruleout on her several years ago?

 

[websurfer]

Her NamUs entry: https://identifyus.org/en/cases/10647

Not a lot there -- but 31 names on the ruleouts list.

Kathryn Adam 1958 Kansas
Peggy Ashley-Vinson 1977 Kentucky
Stephanie Banks 1976 Kentucky
Sonya Bradley 1967 Kentucky
Michelle Burchell 1972 Kentucky
Rose Cole 1956 California
Zola Combs 1956 Kentucky
Joyce Crider 1970 Kentucky
Vicky De Laurier 1961 Kentucky
Loy Evitts 1947 Kansas
Sandra Fisher 1947 Kentucky
Paula Godfrey 1965 Kansas
Shannon Green 1969 Kentucky
Ylva Hagner 1954 California
Dawn Haines 1967 Kentucky
Carole Hamilton 1971 Kentucky
Angelia Hilbert 1966 Kentucky
Ginger Hudson 1960 Kansas
Mary Lang 1952 Kansas
Barbara Laster 1964 Kentucky
Elizabeth Maggard 1961 Kentucky
Georgia Nolan 1946 Kentucky
Bridgett Pendell-Williamson 1973 California
Angela Pilkerton 1960 Kentucky
Susan Riedling 1967 Kentucky
Sherry Roach 1959 California
Martha Shelton 1944 Kentucky
Patrick Sturbaum 1921 California
Carol Sullens 1972 Kansas
Margaret Warrington 1962 Kentucky
Rose West 1944 Kentucky

:twocents:
I've noticed in some Missing Person's profiles/cases that some are reported missing much later[ even years] after they have gone missing so I was thinking?
Why don't we all just look after the found date as well as the ones before?
Plus I also recall reading that some people are never reported missing so?
I am hoping this lady has had a report filed maybe even years after she went missing right?
:waitasec:

 

[carbuff]

:twocents:
I've noticed in some Missing Person's profiles/cases that some are reported missing much later[ even years] after they have gone missing so I was thinking?
Why don't we all just look after the found date as well as the ones before?
Plus I also recall reading that some people are never reported missing so?
I am hoping this lady has had a report filed maybe even years after she went missing right?
:waitasec:

It's certainly a possibility for people whose missing date is uncertain.

 

[bambi_sue]

I'm attaching a side by side of this doe and Jennifer Casper-Ross. Jennifer was mentioned a few pages (and years) back, but without much discussion.

30 year-old Jennifer was last seen in Reno, NV on May 5, 2005, intoxicated and fleeing barefoot from a cab she could not pay. She had a history of mental illness (bipolar disorder) and had been hospitalized for it before. She also had a history of mixing her medications with alcohol. She had been a dancer and at one time a showgirl, so she took great care with her appearance. She was also an accomplished student - presumably well read. When she disappeared she had blonde highlights in her brown hair. She had had extensive dental work done. Jennifer was 5'9" and 130 lbs.

Link to her thread:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79177


The NamUs page for this Jane Doe lists that x-rays are available. Jennifer had at one time broken her tailbone - that should make this an easy rule-out, right? Anyone have thoughts on this one?

 

[Claudette]

I'm attaching a side by side of this doe and Jennifer Casper-Ross. Jennifer was mentioned a few pages (and years) back, but without much discussion.

30 year-old Jennifer was last seen in Reno, NV on May 5, 2005, intoxicated and fleeing barefoot from a cab she could not pay. She had a history of mental illness (bipolar disorder) and had been hospitalized for it before. She also had a history of mixing her medications with alcohol. She had been a dancer and at one time a showgirl, so she took great care with her appearance. She was also an accomplished student - presumably well read. When she disappeared she had blonde highlights in her brown hair. She had had extensive dental work done. Jennifer was 5'9" and 130 lbs.

Link to her thread:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79177


The NamUs page for this Jane Doe lists that x-rays are available. Jennifer had at one time broken her tailbone - that should make this an easy rule-out, right? Anyone have thoughts on this one?

MOO the angle of her eyebrows and jaw shape are different

 

[belfastgirl73]

I'm attaching a side by side of this doe and Jennifer Casper-Ross. Jennifer was mentioned a few pages (and years) back, but without much discussion.

30 year-old Jennifer was last seen in Reno, NV on May 5, 2005, intoxicated and fleeing barefoot from a cab she could not pay. She had a history of mental illness (bipolar disorder) and had been hospitalized for it before. She also had a history of mixing her medications with alcohol. She had been a dancer and at one time a showgirl, so she took great care with her appearance. She was also an accomplished student - presumably well read. When she disappeared she had blonde highlights in her brown hair. She had had extensive dental work done. Jennifer was 5'9" and 130 lbs.

Link to her thread:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=791

The NamUs page for this Jane Doe lists that x-rays are available. Jennifer had at one time broken her tailbone - that should make this an easy rule-out, right? Anyone have thoughts on this one?

I actually think their facial shapes are quite similar. If she had not been eating or looking after herself she would look older/rougher. I would call it in. Can't hurt - right?

 

[not_my_kids]

I won't post it here, because I know that there is no way to link the case with the profile, but if you google "No go, no eat, no drink, murder" a Myspace profile pops up with that exact line in a poem from 2009.

Possibly linked in some way? no idea. Might it have been that the person that wrote the poem saw that line on a website related to this case and decided to use it? Might it be that the person had some connection to the case? Might it be that the person that wrote the poem has a similar form of mental illness and randomly wrote the same line? Maybe, because I know that a lot of mental illnesses cause issues related to words and speech. My cousin is schizophrenic, and I know that when he goes off his meds, he plays word games, so like if I say "pass the potatoes", he will twist those three words, read hidden meanings into them and interpret it as me saying that the potatoes are poisoned and we are tying to kill him. So if the person that wrote the poem and the UID had similar delusions or mental illness it is possible.

Like I said, I won't post the link to the profile, but Google brings it up on the first page of results, it's a myspace profile, open to public view and the name of the poem is Rotten. I just found it interesting and I am thinking out loud, not accusing anyone of anything.

 

[masnitram]

How about Phyllis Ellen Lewellen? Forgive me if she has been brought up, and or ruled out. I'm at work and don't have a lot of time to post a side-by-side.

http://www.nampn.org/cases/lewellen_phyllis.html

 

[Donjeta]

One of the lines of the poem is " Whoever you were - your pain is over" which might be something you write if you're inspired by a Jane Doe case. Who knows.

 

[Fin]

No, and the other name I don't see on the list is Monica Appleton. I thought there was a ruleout on her several years ago?

I have always felt this UID looks like the most recent Monica Appleton photo. Monica was fearful and making paranoid type statements to her mother the last time she saw Monica. Perhaps, things worsened in the time she went missing in 1999. This UID photo was believed to have been taken in early 2006?

There are now 70 rule out names on the UID Namus page. Monica's name is not on the rule out page.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/a/appleton_monica.html

 

[carbuff]

I have always felt this UID looks like the most recent Monica Appleton photo. Monica was fearful and making paranoid type statements to her mother the last time she saw Monica. Perhaps, things worsened in the time she went missing in 1999. This UID photo was believed to have been taken in early 2006?

There are now 70 rule out names on the UID Namus page. Monica's name is not on the rule out page.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/a/appleton_monica.html

Do you think we should resubmit her? Every time I look at that photo, I think, "Yeah, that's either her or her dopelganger." They both have that haunted terrified look to their eyes.

 

[CarlK90245]

Do you think we should resubmit her? Every time I look at that photo, I think, "Yeah, that's either her or her dopelganger." They both have that haunted terrified look to their eyes.

She does look amazingly close. But I do see a couple of subtle but significant differences. (1) The space between the Jane Doe's nose and upper lip is narrower, and (2) The Jane Doe has ridges between her nostrils and above her upper lip that Monica doesn't have.

BTW, the shapes around the nostrils are often a very good place to look when making these comparisons.

 

[Irish_Eyes]

On these types of cases, I almost wish they'd do age regression....what she might look like with a little less gray, and her hair combed, and smiling, and a few years younger...