CA CA - Patrick McDermott, 48, San Pedro, 1 July 2005

  • #21
John's missing boyfriend has a history of violence, abuse and welshing on childcare payments.

Just weeks before disappearing, Patrick McDermott – who vanished after he went on a July 1 overnight fishing trip off the California coast – was ordered by a court to pay outstanding child maintenance payments.

McDermott also has a long-standing bitter custody dispute with his ex-wife, CSI actress Yvette Nipa, over their son Chance and was accused of assaulting and abusing her.
http://www.thecouriermail.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,16370666%5E954,00.html

The 48-year-old photographer also holds a $132,000 life insurance policy that will be paid out to his son if he dies or is presumed dead.
http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/story.jsp?sectionid=1260&storyid=3667168
 
  • #22
Just heard an "inkling" on talk radio asking/suggesting about ONJ. Hmmmmm.
 
  • #23
OY!!! If this doesn't scream "starting a new life under a fake name" I don't know what does. I just wonder how much info ONJ has. IMO, if I were famous and my long time BF disappeared I would be on every TV show, Radio anything and use my celebrity to find him and I have only heard about this HERE. Is it just me or does this seem fishy, get it fishy? :D
 
  • #24
SpongeBathHotPants said:
OY!!! If this doesn't scream "starting a new life under a fake name" I don't know what does. I just wonder how much info ONJ has. IMO, if I were famous and my long time BF disappeared I would be on every TV show, Radio anything and use my celebrity to find him and I have only heard about this HERE. Is it just me or does this seem fishy, get it fishy? :D

It is kind of fishy! I found an article talking about how grieving ONJ is NOW cancelling appearances in the US to promote her new album being released soon. He's been missing since June. Why is she just now cancelling appearances now that the news is out? I'm sure those appearances have been scheduled for a while. Just seems strange to me. I get the impression that ONJ didn't want the news to get out, and now that it is, she's cancelling her appearances. Hmmm. No offense to ONJ or to her fans, but is just seems strange.
 
  • #25
This is a strange case. Olivia said that she hasn't come forward out of respect for his family. I don't know when she found out that he was missing. She may have known from the beginning but didn't come forward until recently.

I don't understand how he could be faking his own death. He would have had to had a way to get off the boat somewhere and it didn't dock anywhere. He paid his food bill in the galley when they were on the way home and 3 miles from docking. If he was going to fake his own death he wouldn't have waited till he was that close to home I wouldn't think anyway.

He may not have had any cash with him after he paid his food bill or he could have paid that with a debit/credit card. Now days there are a lot of people who don't carry any cash.

It was just a bunch of guys going fishing on a chartered boat to my knowledge. Maybe some of the guys were buddys but I don't think he knew the other fishermen so no one really paid any attention to him. It is my understanding that no one really knows if he got off the boat or not but they do know that he left his backpack behind with his license, credit cards, passport, etc in it. His car was still in the parking lot.

Truly a puzzle. Don't know why anyone would want to do him harm on the boat as he didn't seem to know anyone....if he fell or jumped overboard it had to have been within 3 miles of docking back at home. If he faked his own death he had to have a way to get off the boat and to get somewhere else.
 
  • #26
The word is that at least two witnesses saw him disembark with the rest. Where he went after that is a mystery.
 
  • #27
You would have thought with her celebrity she could get more attention for his case. odd indeed.

Thanks for reading my post.;)
 
  • #28
Apparently she chose not to. Said out of respect for his family.
 
  • #29
I'm also curious why it's taken so long for it to become public. I wonder if he has developed mental issues [depression or something?] and they thought they could find him quickly without it becoming public?

There are so many missing persons cases screaming for publicity, yet here is one that involves another celebrity and it appears to have been kept quiet deliberately. :confused:

Cancelling tours/appearances etc this late could be that they thought it would be a non issue by now? It's not like she has been on tv begging for info [well, not that I've seen here in Oz] which I would be if my long term BF suddenly vanished.

T'is all very strange.
 
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  • #31
The disappearance case of Olivia Newton-John’s long-time boyfriend keeps getting stranger. Patrick McDermott vanished on an overnight fishing trip almost eight weeks ago, stumping authorities. His ex-wife reported him missing almost two weeks later after he didn’t show up at a family party and she found his car. But why did it take so long for Newton-John to notice he was gone?

MSNBC-TV’s Dan Abrams talks to Louise Pennell, Foreign Correspondent for Seven Network Australia, who has been closely following the case. Frank Liversedge, the manager of the 22nd Street Landing where McDermott's charter boat set sail, also joins the show with information.
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9068728/
 
  • #32
A "soul mate"; a "dear friend"; a 9 year common law husband/lover.........

I've never gone for more than 24 hours without talking with my husband EVER. NEVER. Unless he's in South Pole and I'm in the North Pole without any telephones, to wait more than 2 weeks and she's not even the one to call in the dissappearance????

One of two things: They either had a huge argument and was "normal" not to talk for days orrrrrrrrrrrrr Olivia knows he planned his disapperance.

Very very strange. very.
 
  • #33
I have read they had an "intense" relationship. I do wonder if maybe they argued and then she left for Austrailia and he to go to the fishing trip. Maybe he was in the habit of "pouting" and she may have thought he would show up when he had cooled down or they may have actually separated. Still after a couple of weeks when he didn't show up anywhere else- you would think she would have been concerned.
 
  • #34
THIS is actress Yvette Nipar, the former wife of Olivia Newton-John's missing lover Patrick McDermott and the mother of his 15-year-old son.

It was Ms Nipar who reported him missing when he failed to turn up to a family function five days after he went on an overnight fishing trip.

But speculation was growing yesterday that it was their troublesome relationship that may have driven Mr McDermott to fake his disappearance.

While crew aboard the charter boat Freedom have told police they have no recollection of seeing him leave the boat, other customers aboard the fishing vessel have told police they saw him walk off the boat when it reached port.
http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/story.jsp?sectionid=1260&storyid=3661883

"There have been a couple of leads generated by all the press and we're following up on those," U.S. Coast Guard Chief Warrant Officer William Epperson said.
http://www.curlio.com/new_showarticle.php?id=7446

McDermott's imperfect past--a bankruptcy, outstanding child-support payments, allegations of "abusive" behavior--is under the microscope as the search for Newton-John's "dear friend" continues.
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/eo/20050825/en_celeb_eo/17234

OLIVIA Newton-John's failure to tell authorities her boyfriend of nine years was missing is under investigation.

The US coastguard told The Daily Telegraph Newton-John's failure to raise the alarm was "one of the things we are looking into".

"As to why she didn't report it - we don't know," Coast Guard Chief Petty Officer Nathan Henise said yesterday.

Another coastguard official, Chief Petty Officer Scott Epperson, also confirmed yesterday that "the investigators are looking into all aspects of this - the relationships, friendships and stuff like that are all part of the investigation".
http://www.sundaytimes.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,7034,16389908%5E10431,00.html
 
  • #35
blueclouds said:
A "soul mate"; a "dear friend"; a 9 year common law husband/lover.........

I've never gone for more than 24 hours without talking with my husband EVER. NEVER. Unless he's in South Pole and I'm in the North Pole without any telephones, to wait more than 2 weeks and she's not even the one to call in the dissappearance????

One of two things: They either had a huge argument and was "normal" not to talk for days orrrrrrrrrrrrr Olivia knows he planned his disapperance.

Very very strange. very.
Well, she was in Australia on business during the time he disappeared. And I suspect cell phones, marvelous as they are, do have their limitations. And for all we know they had a lassiez faire attitude towards one another's private lives, especially after nine years.
 
  • #36
Hello,

I wrote a very lengthy post and when I hit the post button, it disappeared.
I will try to remember what I wrote but give you the abbreviated version.

I was discussing this scenario with my husband tonight (my husband writes fictional suspense stories for a small newspaper) and he threw out a theory that at first I found absurd but then I thought about WS and wanted to share it here with you all to see what you thought.

He and first wife, married with son.
First wife catches him in the act but not with a woman......with another man.
Divorce.
He has financial troubles and now x-wife is tired of waiting for her child support payments and threatens to expose him and his true lifestyle if he doesn't pay up.

In the meantime, for nine years he's been able to create this "loving committed relationship" facade with ONJ.

Did ONJ know the truth about his sexual orientation?
Did she help him with his facade?
My husband and I both have read everything we can get our hands on about this story and not once have I read that ONJ is in love with him or refers to him in a 'committed relationship' manner.

We've gone on fishing trips up the coast of Calif.
We never considered taking our passports.
His passport was found among his private belongings.
Why take a passport on a 24 hour fishing trip?

Why was it x-wife who reported him missing?
Did he sneak off the boat and go to see x-wife to beg her not to reveal the truth and things got out of hand....does x-wife know where he is?

For business trips my husband and myself have had to leave for extended periods of time.
With meetings, appointments, and all that a business trip entails, sometimes we wouldn't get to make a call to the other until late in the evening.
Even if it was just to say "Good-night, I love you", we had contact in some form daily.
ONJ and boyfriend, with their 9-year loving committed relationship, it didn't cause her to wonder why she hadn't heard from him?

If he was having financial problems, why didn't ONJ offer one of her financial advisors to help boyfriend get things squared away.
Maybe get him help for a possible addiction to spending, maybe gambling.



My husband hasn't gotten as far as thinking what might have happened to the boyfriend....doesn't know if boyfriend decided to end it knowing the insurance policy will go to the son, or leave and start a new life before he was exposed.
But my husband does say there is a lot more than just financial baggage behind the missing boyfriend.


Thank you for taking the time to read this....much appreciated.
 
  • #37
BillyGoatGruff said:
Well, she was in Australia on business during the time he disappeared. And I suspect cell phones, marvelous as they are, do have their limitations. And for all we know they had a lassiez faire attitude towards one another's private lives, especially after nine years.

Have you seen anywhere, what date she left to go to Austrailia?
 
  • #38
We have no idea when Olivia actually found out that he was missing. She has probably known either right before or right after the ex and the son found out. She said that she didn't come forward out of respect for his family. Probably meaning his parents or siblings and his son. With all of the attention the case has gotten since Olivia came forward I'll bet she wishes she had done it earlier.

Some people on the ship said that McDermott was talking about his financial straights and owing child support but his problems are no different than many other peoples problems. He only had three more years of child support and if his income had dropped he could always go back to court and get the child support lowered. If a judge had told him he had to pay his back support by a certain date and he didn't have the money he could have hopped a plane and gone to Australia and stayed with Olivia. She probably has a house there.

I don't know, this case is a real puzzle. Hope something breaks loose soon.
 
  • #39
I keep seeing she was in Austrailia, but I don't see anywhere when she left to go to Austrailia.
 
  • #40
mysteriew said:
Have you seen anywhere, what date she left to go to Austrailia?

Hi Mysteriew,
I've narrowed it down a little to these dates going by news articles I found.

http://www.onlyolivia.com/memorabilia/mags/2005/050619au_herald-sun.html
19 June 2005 still in USA
http://www.onlyolivia.com/memorabilia/mags/2005/050801au_who_3.html
1st August 2005 in Australia

National Tree day here was on 31st July,so she left the US sometime after 19 June 2005 & arrived in Aust sometime before the end of July. The article above has a print date of 28th July & Tree day for schools is the 29th. According to some articles I've read, she was here in Australia at the time he went missing and that she then flew home. That's all I could narrow it down to at the moment, hope this helps.

Gaia Spa & Retreat http://www.gaiaretreat.com.au/home.htm opened in February 2005.[ source Byron Shire Echo January 25, 2005 ]
 

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