Found Deceased CA - Paul Miller, 51, Canadian missing in Joshua Tree Natl Park, San Bernardino Co., 13 Jul 2018 #2

[SharonNeedles]

I’m speaking without any authority, but I think you could link to YouTube, making clear in your post that you took the videos yourself.

The reasons I think it’s okay:

1: in the ToS, WS says that they aren’t bothering to verify locals who are just reporting on local conditions, which is what you’d be doing.

2: I remember that in the Mollie Tibbets case, @SharonNeedles took a number of videos all around the area, and posted them for us. I believe he put them on YouTube and posted the link here.

Yes, I uploaded my videos to YouTube and posted a link to them here. I was also messaging Tricia and it was clarified that these videos are my own and Webslueths has my permission to use them.

 

[zecats]

Yes, I uploaded my videos to YouTube and posted a link to them here. I was also messaging Tricia and it was clarified that these videos are my own and Webslueths has my permission to use them.

I remember watching them. In one, the press was interviewing Mollie's dad when you passed by. Thank you again for doing that. I can hardly believe that was a year ago already.

 

[SharonNeedles]

I remember watching them. In one, the press was interviewing Mollie's dad when you passed by. Thank you again for doing that. I can hardly believe that was a year ago already.

Oh my gosh, that caught me so totally off guard. And it really hit home. Watching a man pleading for the safe return of his daughter while I was sitting there with my own daughter... it really added perspective for me.

 

[zecats]

Oh my gosh, that caught me so totally off guard. And it really hit home. Watching a man pleading for the safe return of his daughter while I was sitting there with my own daughter... it really added perspective for me.

I bet. I thought you were very brave to do that in the first place.

 

[Jazzy5980]

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[atlstnspc]

This is my personal video and is for the use of Websleuths users. No Copyright. May be used in part or in whole.

Uploaded a short video of the approach to the 49 Palms Oasis and my thoughts on the disappearance of Paul. Please forgive the sun glare and shaking. I’ll get better over time. I’ll post other videos to YouTube and link back if that’s OK with the mods.

 

[pillywiggin]

This is my personal video and is for the use of Websleuths users. No Copyright. May be used in part or in whole.

Uploaded a short video of the approach to the 49 Palms Oasis and my thoughts on the disappearance of Paul. Please forgive the sun glare and shaking. I’ll get better over time. I’ll post other videos to YouTube and link back if that’s OK with the mods.

Thank you for sharing this.

 

[jash]

This is my personal video and is for the use of Websleuths users. No Copyright. May be used in part or in whole.

Uploaded a short video of the approach to the 49 Palms Oasis and my thoughts on the disappearance of Paul. Please forgive the sun glare and shaking. I’ll get better over time. I’ll post other videos to YouTube and link back if that’s OK with the mods.

Thank you for the video and narration! What time and day of the week were you there? Did you encounter any other hikers?

 

[rosesfromangels]

This is my personal video and is for the use of Websleuths users. No Copyright. May be used in part or in whole.

Uploaded a short video of the approach to the 49 Palms Oasis and my thoughts on the disappearance of Paul. Please forgive the sun glare and shaking. I’ll get better over time. I’ll post other videos to YouTube and link back if that’s OK with the mods.

This is extremely interesting; thank you for doing this.
I am eager to see your next video.
Please consider my theory as you hike about; I'm convinced he had a medical episode, collapsed, and is stuck between boulders.
Again, thank you for this super interesting video, and for doing it in the first place. Extremely useful to get this perspective. Thank you!

Amateur opinion and speculation

 

[zecats]

This is extremely interesting; thank you for doing this.
I am eager to see your next video.
Please consider my theory as you hike about; I'm convinced he had a medical episode, collapsed, and is stuck between boulders.
Again, thank you for this super interesting video, and for doing it in the first place. Extremely useful to get this perspective. Thank you!

Amateur opinion and speculation

Definitely support your "fell between boulders" theory. Maybe instead of a medical episode, he was pursuing a photo opportunity or a point for higher view advantage. Maybe even dropped his camera, as suggested I think by his sister and fell trying to retrieve it. The dog tracked him to the oasis, iir from his sister's statement as well, so searching should focus in that area. JMO

 

[zecats]

This is my personal video and is for the use of Websleuths users. No Copyright. May be used in part or in whole.

Uploaded a short video of the approach to the 49 Palms Oasis and my thoughts on the disappearance of Paul. Please forgive the sun glare and shaking. I’ll get better over time. I’ll post other videos to YouTube and link back if that’s OK with the mods.

Thank you. Now I'm as confused as you are. I thought the washes were a possible way for Paul to wander off, but after your comments, not so sure. Sigh.

PS What did you mean by "cat's claws?"

 

[rosesfromangels]

Thank you. Now I'm as confused as you are. I thought the washes were a possible way for Paul to wander off, but after your comments, not so sure. Sigh.

PS What did you mean by "cat's claws?"

It's a vine with thorns, used a lot in herbal medicines

 

[zecats]

It's a vine with thorns, used a lot in herbal medicines

Thanks. I was thinking a plant and hoping not literally cat's claw marks.

 

[SharonNeedles]

This is my personal video and is for the use of Websleuths users. No Copyright. May be used in part or in whole.

Uploaded a short video of the approach to the 49 Palms Oasis and my thoughts on the disappearance of Paul. Please forgive the sun glare and shaking. I’ll get better over time. I’ll post other videos to YouTube and link back if that’s OK with the mods.

Thank you for this perspective.

 

[wary]

Definitely support your "fell between boulders" theory. Maybe instead of a medical episode, he was pursuing a photo opportunity or a point for higher view advantage. Maybe even dropped his camera, as suggested I think by his sister and fell trying to retrieve it. The dog tracked him to the oasis, iir from his sister's statement as well, so searching should focus in that area. JMO

This is my theory too. I’ve even had a horrible thought that he might have ‘fallen between boulders’ in a way where he’d be unfindable except from the top of the boulders—where there simply isn’t a human-size crevice at ground level.

 

[rosesfromangels]

This is my theory too. I’ve even had a horrible thought that he might have ‘fallen between boulders’ in a way where he’d be unfindable except from the top of the boulders—where there simply isn’t a human-size crevice at ground level.

Yes - or getting under the formation and look up. I've literally had nightmares about this; very vivid. : (

Amateur opinion and speculation

 

[atlstnspc]

Thank you for the video and narration! What time and day of the week were you there? Did you encounter any other hikers?

About 8 AM, Saturday, 07/13, one year from the day Paul went missing. I started about 6 AM and got back to my car about noon. I wanted to be at what the Miller family thought was the rock that Paul was seen at closer to 9 to 9:30 to check the shadows. I didn’t see anybody else on the trail until I got back to the trailhead.

 

[atlstnspc]

I went looking for Big Horn Sheep today and did I ever find them, on a trail up above the west wash leading to the Oasis. Since this was Paul’s mission as well I’ll search the animal trails I found next time I’m at JT. When I get to WiFi I’ll post them to YouTube.

 

[zecats]

I went looking for Big Horn Sheep today and did I ever find them, on a trail up above the west wash leading to the Oasis. Since this was Paul’s mission as well I’ll search the animal trails I found next time I’m at JT. When I get to WiFi I’ll post them to YouTube.

What time of day? Morning? So this is a year since Paul went missing and it's kind of symbolic to me (or ironic) that the sheep that he wanted to see are there at this moment.

 

[atlstnspc]

I’ve posted a couple more videos and will keep posting if there’s interest.