GUILTY CA - Paul Pelosi, the speaker’s husband, violently attacked after assailant broke into their SF home, Oct 2022 *arrest*

[Inthedetails]

Yes, I've read all those charges. But there's still a discrepancy in the sentencing. It's probably as LinasK says -- it's probably mostly because of the "intended" target. I just think we're going to see that one reduced in the future. MOO

This isn't about "whataboutism" and looking at other cases that are not the same as this one to decide this sentence seems fishy. This case is very serious and it's disappointing it's not considered so.

jmo

 

[LinasK]

Okay, but consider this...

The attacker breaks in and hits Mr. Pelosi on the head, leaving him with serious injuries. He gets life without parole.

Compare that to Bryan Kohberger. If he's convicted and doesn't get the death penalty, he'll receive life without parole.

Are we prepared to sentence all home intruders who assault their victims to life without parole? I did a little research and found the typical sentence is usually much shorter.

That leads me to believe this attacker will eventually receive a reduced sentence. That's just my opinion based on my research.

Once again, apples and oranges. Not to minimize the victim's families in that case, but Kohlberger's victims were college students, not political targets (i.e. the Speaker of the House). And I suspect Kohlberger was targeting one girl and the other victims were collateral damage.

 

[branmuffin]

Okay, but consider this...

The attacker breaks in and hits Mr. Pelosi on the head, leaving him with serious injuries. He gets life without parole.

Compare that to Bryan Kohberger. If he's convicted and doesn't get the death penalty, he'll receive life without parole.

Are we prepared to sentence all home intruders who assault their victims to life without parole? I did a little research and found the typical sentence is usually much shorter.

That leads me to believe this attacker will eventually receive a reduced sentence. That's just my opinion based on my research.

Consider this. Kohberger committed murder in Idaho. LePape committed aggravated kidnapping, first degree burglary and false imprisonment in California. Two different states with different sentences depending on the crime. Idaho resurrected the death penalty in 1976 while California abolished it in 1976. So it's like comparing apples and oranges. There are countries all over the world who have more egregious murders than the death of four people, for instance, in 2019 a man killed 51 Muslims in a mosque in New Zealand and he'll rot in prison because New Zealand abolished the death penalty years ago. When the highest punishment is life without parole eventually the prisoner dies in prison one way or another.

 

[Twick]

Yes, I've read all those charges. But there's still a discrepancy in the sentencing. It's probably as LinasK says -- it's probably mostly because of the "intended" target. I just think we're going to see that one reduced in the future. MOO

I certainly hope not. There is an underswell today of people justify8ng violent attacks on political opponents, and I think that has t9 be punished to a high standard.

 

[GRT]

I certainly hope not. There is an underswell today of people justify8ng violent attacks on political opponents, and I think that has t9 be punished to a high standard.

That's so true, and I'm not sure why it's so bad right now. It's just odd that DePape was tried last year for federal crimes, which included harm to a family member of a political figure, but in that case, he was given 30 years.

This was a state case where the charges did not include political figures or their family, so I still can't figure out why the sentence in this one seems out of line with similar cases. I think the Defense argued for double jeopardy, and, eventually, I see them getting his state sentence reduced. But he's still got the 30 years for the federal one, no matter what.

 

[LinasK]

That's so true, and I'm not sure why it's so bad right now. It's just odd that DePape was tried last year for federal crimes, which included harm to a family member of a political figure, but in that case, he was given 30 years.

This was a state case where the charges did not include political figures or their family, so I still can't figure out why the sentence in this one seems out of line with similar cases. I think the Defense argued for double jeopardy, and, eventually, I see them getting his state sentence reduced. But he's still got the 30 years for the federal one, no matter what.

It wasn't double jeopardy to have two trials because the charges for each were different. He's NOT getting his sentence reduced.

 

[GRT]

It wasn't double jeopardy to have two trials because the charges for each were different. He's NOT getting his sentence reduced.

My guess is that he will. But that's just MOO.

 

[Betty P]

I hope he's not being considered a victim of some sort or a martyr for a cause. That would be wrong. JMO

 

[GRT]

I hope he's not being considered a victim of some sort or a martyr for a cause. That would be wrong. JMO

I haven't heard anything along those lines, and you're right; that would be wrong.

He's the attacker. He's guilty. He must serve his sentence. There's nothing martyr-ish about someone who is deranged, breaks into the home of a sleeping person, and then attacks him.

I just tend to think that the last sentence will be eventually reduced. JMOO

 

[LinasK]

It wasn't double jeopardy to have two trials because the charges for each were different. He's NOT getting his sentence reduced.

And thank God for the State trial, because now he can't receive a presidential pardon for that one, so he'll remain behind bars.

 

[ilovewings]

And thank God for the State trial, because now he can't receive a presidential pardon for that one, so he'll remain behind bars.

Good point