CA - Placentia Students Find Teacher Dead in HS Classroom 2Mar15

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I just do. not. believe. that this woman would have hung herself in her classroom minutes before students arrived. This sounds to me like someone wanted to humiliate and embarrass her. Maybe someone who thought she cared about her job and/or students more than them? I hope the school has surveillance footage that can provide some certainty either way.

I totally agree.
 
  • #43
I'm not surprised the police would say it appears to be suicide. First of all, there may very well be some evidence that clearly points to that conclusion that they haven't disclosed yet. But even if the police aren't sure, I think it would be a good idea to say suicide for now. It avoids a panic first of all. Classes simply couldn't be cancelled immediately. They have a school full of kids that have just arrived to start the day. To cancel requires notification of parents, notification of the transportation division to get the buses back to the school. Best thing for the school is to just continue with classes, that way you know where everyone is, get head count/attendance, etc. The police can arrive, look at surveillance video (if it exists) while everyone is still there in the school. My guess is that that if there is surveillance video, it shows no one else going into that room other than the teacher. But we will see.
 
  • #44
Article on her father from 2011

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2011...man-described-as-depressed-possibly-suicidal/

Authorities are asking for the public’s help in finding a missing 55-year-old Downey man who has been as described as depressed and possibly suicidal.

Richard Prisbrey, who is married and has three children, was last seen leaving his job in El Monte Wednesday morning, Downey police Sgt. Brian Baker said.
 
  • #45
Article on her father from 2011

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2011...man-described-as-depressed-possibly-suicidal/

Authorities are asking for the public’s help in finding a missing 55-year-old Downey man who has been as described as depressed and possibly suicidal.

Richard Prisbrey, who is married and has three children, was last seen leaving his job in El Monte Wednesday morning, Downey police Sgt. Brian Baker said.

Sad to see his daughter Lisa posted in the comments that he came home in an urn.
 
  • #46
I'm still having trouble wrapping my head around this one. Just doesn't make sense that a teacher would do that to her students.
 
  • #47
I don't understand the location she chose if it was suicide and from the articles it seems April would be of significance as an anniversary of dad's death.

I find that about a month before a "big" day like a birthday, holiday or the anniversary of her death I get very depressed and miss my mom and I'm wondering if that's part of what was going on with her. For me (and I'm in the midst of it now because April 1 is the 3rd anniversary of her death), I've found myself tearful and missing her very much.
 
  • #48
I'm still having trouble wrapping my head around this one. Just doesn't make sense that a teacher would do that to her students.
Speaking as a former teacher let me attest that we're all not necessarily grounded in reality, so to speak. Some -- just like the general population -- are alarmingly selfish. I do tend to think, though, that she may have encountered behavior problems in the classroom and this bit of grand guignol may have been an alarming "take that."
 
  • #49
Speaking as a former teacher let me attest that we're all not necessarily grounded in reality, so to speak. Some -- just like the general population -- are alarmingly selfish. I do tend to think, though, that she may have encountered behavior problems in the classroom and this bit of grand guignol may have been an alarming "take that."

I truly hope not. :( Everything we've heard so far about her has been the opposite. Perhaps it will take more time before others will say differently. :dunno: However, I personally hope she wasn't just keeping up a façade of happiness with all of the positive interactions and memories she created with so many, especially her students. She even taught workshops at CSUF. That would have been exhausting. It just doesn't make sense - to me.

Point taken, though.

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  • #50
As someone who has coonsidered suicide, honestly who is finding you isn't the least bit concerning. The idea thta people might think I was sending some final "screw you" to my husband/partner/lover/best friend, or that it was because of some perceived slight on his part, and not severe mental illness is beyond my realm of imagination and honestly make me physically ill to think about. When in the grips of such severe mental illness there is absolutely no thought to who would have found me, or the toll it took on them. In my mind, i was doing him a favour. I was helping him. The idea that people would assign evil, selfish motives to that instead of that I was SICK is so sad to me.
 
  • #51
I just do. not. believe. that this woman would have hung herself in her classroom minutes before students arrived. This sounds to me like someone wanted to humiliate and embarrass her. Maybe someone who thought she cared about her job and/or students more than them? I hope the school has surveillance footage that can provide some certainty either way.

But, how exactly would someone commit murder by hanging? She doesn't appear to have been a super tiny woman and classroom ceilings are typically pretty high.
 
  • #52
As someone who has coonsidered suicide, honestly who is finding you isn't the least bit concerning. The idea thta people might think I was sending some final "screw you" to my husband/partner/lover/best friend, or that it was because of some perceived slight on his part, and not severe mental illness is beyond my realm of imagination and honestly make me physically ill to think about. When in the grips of such severe mental illness there is absolutely no thought to who would have found me, or the toll it took on them. In my mind, i was doing him a favour. I was helping him. The idea that people would assign evil, selfish motives to that instead of that I was SICK is so sad to me.

This is your experience, but I don't think that is everyone's suicidal ideation experience, for sure.
 
  • #53
That would be I i used the term "I" and "my" so many times in my post. :moo:
 
  • #54
But, how exactly would someone commit murder by hanging? She doesn't appear to have been a super tiny woman and classroom ceilings are typically pretty high.

I would agree with this. Seems like it would be very difficult to murder someone by hanging. You would have to incapacitate them first, and then some how get them up off the ground. That would be a lot of trouble and likely require more than one person. I think it would also be easy for police/coroner to distinguish it from a real suicide.
 
  • #55
I would agree with this. Seems like it would be very difficult to murder someone by hanging. You would have to incapacitate them first, and then some how get them up off the ground. That would be a lot of trouble and likely require more than one person. I think it would also be easy for police/coroner to distinguish it from a real suicide.

There were also students outside the classroom that presumably would have heard signs of struggle. At least my understanding of it, she was found a very short time after hanging. But nobody reported hearing any noises, etc. Police could check when she came to school and how long it took before she was found. Door was locked, and the students didn't repot that they saw anybody leaving the classroom. So if somebody was there with her, how would they escape?
 
  • #56
As someone who has coonsidered suicide, honestly who is finding you isn't the least bit concerning. The idea thta people might think I was sending some final "screw you" to my husband/partner/lover/best friend, or that it was because of some perceived slight on his part, and not severe mental illness is beyond my realm of imagination and honestly make me physically ill to think about. When in the grips of such severe mental illness there is absolutely no thought to who would have found me, or the toll it took on them. In my mind, i was doing him a favour. I was helping him. The idea that people would assign evil, selfish motives to that instead of that I was SICK is so sad to me.

Several of the people I have known who committed suicide DID consider who would find them.
They went out of their way to make sure someone didn't (or in one case, did) find them.

One went out into a field and one went into the desert - no mess for family to find or clean up.
The one who went into the field also got her hair done, nails done, so she would look good.

Another killed himself in front of the mortuary.
Another killed himself on a hiking trail so family wouldn't find him.
2 went out in their backyard while family was out of town and made a 911 call before doing it.

One woman hung herself in the entryway when her husband was on his way home with the mistress. :twocents:

I think everyone is different... and some will think about it and some won't.
 
  • #57
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/students-652882-school-campus.html

Police said Tuesday there was still no indication of a motive for the teacher’s apparent suicide. No note had been found. Authorities were continuing to interview Jacobson’s family about what happened, Lt. Eric Point said. An autopsy is scheduled for later this week, he said.
 
  • #58
I hope the autopsy is revealing and provides answers. I cant imagine the pain and confusion of the people who loved her.
 
  • #59
Several of the people I have known who committed suicide DID consider who would find them.
They went out of their way to make sure someone didn't (or in one case, did) find them.

One went out into a field and one went into the desert - no mess for family to find or clean up.
The one who went into the field also got her hair done, nails done, so she would look good.

Another killed himself in front of the mortuary.
Another killed himself on a hiking trail so family wouldn't find him.
2 went out in their backyard while family was out of town and made a 911 call before doing it.

One woman hung herself in the entryway when her husband was on his way home with the mistress. :twocents:

I think everyone is different... and some will think about it and some won't.

Wow, you know a lot of suicide victims :(.
 
  • #60
^^^...unfortunately so do I. Including my brother .

Aside from my bro... all I believe were a result of "coming down" off of a cocaine high in the 80's in California where I lived at that time.
 

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