Found Deceased CA - Rachel Nguyen, 20, & Joseph Orbeso, 21, Joshua Tree Nat'l Park, 27 July 2017 #1

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  • #761
That person has been brought up in the thread before and I'm pretty sure we determined it's not her (same RN has a blog where it is obviously not the MP).

Here are some accounts that are the correct Rachel's:
https://mobile.twitter.com/rach0de
http://www.thepicta.com/user/rachel_roars/34594228
From RNs twitter, she posted a live video that's she's in, while at the garden spot in Stanton. I hope LE checked out all her friends and favorite spots to see if anyone has heard from her. Here's her video. https://twitter.com/rach0de/status/882847070071144448
 
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https://www.facebook.com/KUNA15/photos/a.231889346850421.56254.106562669383090/1535260599846616/

The content translates to:
The U.S. marshals service assigns agents to investigate the disappearance of a couple at Joshua Tree National Park

It's been almost two months since the whereabouts of Rachel Nguyen and Joseph Orbeso. #Kunanoticias

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  • #766
is this possibly a kidnapping?
were they dating at one time and split?
matbe he wanted her back?

who exactly planned trip?
sorry i have not had a chance to read the thread.
 
  • #767
What would be a reason for the Marshalls to come in? National Park land? Or potential for something more nefarious?

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  • #768
What would be a reason for the Marshalls to come in? National Park land? Or potential for something more nefarious?

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Does anyone know the role of the US Marshals service in this case? They're not the FBI, they don't conduct missing persons investigations.

Wikipedia:
The Marshals Service is responsible for apprehending wanted fugitives, providing protection for the federal judiciary, transporting federal prisoners, protecting endangered federal witnesses, and managing assets seized from criminal enterprises.
 
  • #769
These 3 maps have meaning. Why was their scent picked up in the north easterly portion of the park, and the phone pinging closer to the area of the car (more or less)? Yet, it seems there is also a connection to these other populated locations... Hmmmm
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Does anyone know the role of the US Marshals service in this case? They're not the FBI, they don't conduct missing persons investigations.

Wikipedia:
Id like to know the answer to this too. Something fishy definitely going on here IMHO
 
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Does anyone know the role of the US Marshals service in this case? They're not the FBI, they don't conduct missing persons investigations.

Wikipedia:

According to the Wikipedia definition as we know the case, none of the above. Which means there is a lot we don't know about the case. It's starting to look like this disappearance goes way deeper than we knew. Were one of them in Witness Protection? Why the US Marshalls? Why that agency? Why is it their jurisdiction over the others? This is mind-boggling.
 
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Does anyone know the role of the US Marshals service in this case? They're not the FBI, they don't conduct missing persons investigations.

Wikipedia:
YIKES

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  • #774
Why is a spanish station posting this? Where did that map come from? Does this confirm where the Airbnb they stayed at?
The map came from the news link i posted with it. I don't know anything else about it, yet. The station reports on that section of California, in Spanish.
 
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Thank you for making this easy to find. I wonder if they chose to hike back to the house from the trail, and something untoward happened as they entered down into the valley from the rocky hills. Something such as stumbling upon something they weren't "supposed to" see or overhear, for example. It's very populated, and there are quite a few outlying homes that are pretty secluded, both north and west of those hills.

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  • #776
I believe I found the AirBnB featured in the video that the witness (EW) claims he saw RN and JO at after they were missing. It's really strange that police confirmed that JO and Javier rented this same house 2 weeks prior to that. I wonder if EW could have seen JO there with another woman at the earlier date (when JO rented it with Javier) and EW just didn't remember for sure how long ago it was?

https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/154068...dren=0&infants=0&adults=2&guests=2&s=sm0iIcxB

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/61584-Pueblo-Trl-Joshua-Tree-CA-92252/17493199_zpid/

https://www.google.com/maps/place/6...7a26f58f73f94!8m2!3d34.1174214!4d-116.3205326


https://www.facebook.com/KUNA15/photos/a.231889346850421.56254.106562669383090/1535260599846616/

The content translates to:
The U.S. marshals service assigns agents to investigate the disappearance of a couple at Joshua Tree National Park

It's been almost two months since the whereabouts of Rachel Nguyen and Joseph Orbeso. #Kunanoticias

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I don't where the Spanish news station got the map above, but it lines up with the addresses I found from news shots of both houses. Airbnb1 is owned by one of the owners who reviewed JO's profile. Just bringing these all forward together. Google mapping from House 1, to House 2, to Maze Loop Trailhead: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Chi...74d27ee16!2m2!1d-116.2422984!2d34.0809652!3e0
 
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If I remember correctly the US Marshals were called in with the Holly Bobo case.
 
  • #778
I looked it up, the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation investigated that case. A man sometimes referred to as a "former" US Marshal testified for the defense, claiming he'd had a jailhouse conversation with another man who'd confessed. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/2...-doubt-on-former-investigators-testimony.html

The info about the US Marshall Service involvement seems to come solely from JO's father, and to be honest, is probably based on a misunderstanding. Maybe he spoke with an individual who has offered to help in a private capacity, and has jumped to conclusions. The "US Marshal Service" sounds important if you didn't know they are essentially bodyguards for prisoners.
 
  • #779
Exactly how does the Pueblo Trail airbnb come into play?
 
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Exactly how does the Pueblo Trail airbnb come into play?

Joseph stayed there with his friend Javier July 12-July14 (2 weeks prior to going missing). The new witness interviewed says he saw RN and JO at that same house after they had been reported missing from July 27- Aug 1, along with another couple staying there. LE has known about the witness statements since Aug 4th. LE checked into it and says there was no evidence of RN and JO at the house during that time but they confirmed other people were staying there.

It's all in this news report: http://www.kesq.com/news/missing-hikers-spotted-outside-joshua-tree-national-park/623782662
 
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