CA - Rayanna Nail, 10, dies of drug OD, Klamath, 31 July 2009

[songline]

My brother only takes a heart burn pill. He is not disfunctional, he is as normal, he has a beer every now and then but thats all my brother does. My brother has always been a good father, uncle brother and son. He has never done anything to harm kids, he has done nothing but love kids. My brother was not i repeate not raised by a drug addict, my mother is the most supporting loving giving mother i have ever seen. She has always done everything for her kids. That is how my brother is. I don't know if you were talking about my brother when you said dysfunctional, but i felt obligated to quote on this in case you were. I don't know if you think the gma refferd to is my mom but it is not. It is Kris's mom and i will never do damage control for her, she deserves everything she gets. As far as keeping my kids away from my brother i will never do that unless there was a reason to and i do not see heart burn pills and a beer every now and then a reason to keep my kids away from my brother......

THANK YOU, And I think you are doing the damage control for your brother. AS I WOULD for mine.
I understand your brother comes from a "normal" family. I understand he is a great dad and uncle,
I DO.
Kris's family is very far from that FAR! Your brother selected to be in that family.
and he too should have taken his daughter and wife and moved away. MOVED. From Gma.
Minimum 20 minute distance. I am not attacking your brother. He too should have said
this is not good for my daughter.

But I still pray that your children stay away from there.
Let your Brother come to your house, let your kids never go there. NEVER.
I hear your devotion, I hear your love, and feel your hurt. Dont get blind sided by it.
And I am screaming PLEASE keep your kids close, far from Kris's family FAR!

Justify whatever you want but keep the kids safe, FAR from anywhere that
Kris and her family would be. FAR!!!!!!

 

[stupidityiseverywher]

He did move them away, he moved in with me for 6 months and he prommised his wife that if she dont like it after that he would move her back home,,(mind you this is before the od's and this is the first time kris lived away from gma) well my kids and Ray did not get along because they didn't understand why Ray did the things she did or why she always lied about them to get them introuble, Then when they didnt want to play with Ray she didnt understand why and wanted to go home to gma... She used to yell and scream everyone hates me and I want to go home, Kris took that as her daughter being missrable and after 6 months took her to where she thought she would be happy. My brother has always tried to get them away from gma, but he also didnt want to loose his family, Mind you also that my brother was raised by his mother and 3 sisters so he is not gruff like a man or has the man attitude IM THE MAN OF THE HOUSE DO AS I SAY, hes not like that, But he did try alot of times to get and stay away from g ma. He moved 400 miles when he moved in with me and he also moved them 40 miles. But I dont know what it is kris always seemed to end back around her mom. I dont know if she felt sorry for her, or thought she needed to be there to help her, i Dont know I do know that she said when she called family members to do an intervention for her mom the family said it was a good idea but no one would come and help. This i believe was after the 1st od. As far as my kids the only person that ever watches my kids is my mom and thats only when I dont take them, for some reason where they could not b with me. Other then that my kids go EVERYWHERE with me. I dont even leave them if I have to run to the store, Not even with their dad. And my kids have never never been around Kris's family without me. And my brother is here at my house now along with his son.O ya I dont believe I am doing damage control for my brother because I dont think he was the cause of damage to control. Thank you for your kind words and prayers

THANK YOU, And I think you are doing the damage control for your brother. AS I WOULD for mine.
I understand your brother comes from a "normal" family. I understand he is a great dad and uncle,
I DO.
Kris's family is very far from that FAR! Your brother selected to be in that family.
and he too should have taken his daughter and wife and moved away. MOVED. From Gma.
Minimum 20 minute distance. I am not attacking your brother. He too should have said
this is not good for my daughter.

But I still pray that your children stay away from there.
Let your Brother come to your house, let your kids never go there. NEVER.
I hear your devotion, I hear your love, and feel your hurt. Dont get blind sided by it.
And I am screaming PLEASE keep your kids close, far from Kris's family FAR!

Justify whatever you want but keep the kids safe, FAR from anywhere that
Kris and her family would be. FAR!!!!!!

 

[songline]

He did move them away, he moved in with me for 6 months and he promised his wife that if she dont like it after that he would move her back home,,(mind you this is before the od's and this is the first time kris lived away from gma) well my kids and Ray did not get along because they didn't understand why Ray did the things she did or why she always lied about them to get them in trouble, Then when they didnt want to play with Ray she didnt understand why and wanted to go home to gma... She used to yell and scream everyone hates me and I want to go home, Kris took that as her daughter being miserable and after 6 months took her to where she thought she would be happy. My brother has always tried to get them away from gma, but he also didnt want to loose his family, Mind you also that my brother was raised by his mother and 3 sisters so he is not gruff like a man or has the man attitude IM THE MAN OF THE HOUSE DO AS I SAY, hes not like that, But he did try alot of times to get and stay away from g ma. He moved 400 miles when he moved in with me and he also moved them 40 miles. But I dont know what it is kris always seemed to end back around her mom. I dont know if she felt sorry for her, or thought she needed to be there to help her, i Dont know I do know that she said when she called family members to do an intervention for her mom the family said it was a good idea but no one would come and help. This i believe was after the 1st od. As far as my kids the only person that ever watches my kids is my mom and thats only when I dont take them, for some reason where they could not b with me. Other then that my kids go EVERYWHERE with me. I dont even leave them if I have to run to the store, Not even with their dad. And my kids have never never been around Kris's family without me. And my brother is here at my house now along with his son.O ya I dont believe I am doing damage control for my brother because I dont think he was the cause of damage to control. Thank you for your kind words and prayers

stupidityiseverywher :blowkiss:
I hope Ray is out of her misary and is now in Gods lap and peaceful. I hope you can all find peace and heal. I think your Brother will hurt for a while, may he find comfort in knowing that his daughter is home with her other Dad.

I am glad you do not let your kids near Kris's family
After all both Kris and Gma are still alive and Dysfunctional.
KEEP A DISTANCE...Your brother may have to leave her for good one day and then he will be fine, Don't keep sticking up for her. Just give that up.....I honor your devotion to your family, your brother. But he does not have to be Macho to keep his family away from gma, for the boys sake it is time to remove the family from her permanently. I know she is in some hospital / jail...(I am not sure where she is) But if she goes back home, None of the kids can be anywhere near her. None of them.

Find the strength to heal - you will be OK, you are a good person. :blowkiss:

 

[6angels]

She went threw the vomit to be sure there were no pills after going to gmas and cleaning up pills. The symptoms the first time were not set in, ray told her mom because she got scared and her mom called 911. The missprint,,, she said jay(my brother) turned her over and she was gone and that sometime that night my baby left. The exzact wording takes to long for me to right but those were the missprints. And kris called g ma to see if it was ok for ray to come get potatos, so she knew she was comming. Kris went down there after ray said gma was somad out again and there were pills everywhere. She went to check on her mom and cleaned the pills up not knowing ray already had some she cleaned them up seen that the lock was broken on the box then locked them up in her car, just for gma later that night to go down to kris's house and kris heard something outside, the gma was trying to get into kris's car to get her pills after her grandaughter just passed she was worried about getting her pills out. I know alot of you are stciking up for gma but let me tell you if you knew her you wouldb't be.

If we shouldnt be sticking up for Grandma....... THEN WHY in the WORLD would she allow her around her. UGH SEE this is why MOM is just as responable. I pegged it right away that there was a Safety agreement with the state. the MOM and the GRANDMA FAILED this beautiful child. You can't just blame Grandma when you your self say how awful Grandma is. THE MOM KNEW. SHe needs to be arrested on the fact she didnt protect her child. I have delt with DHS( CPS) My whole life as a foster child then foster mom and now adoptive mom and I can almost guarantee you the safety plan did not say ( Call grandma first to make sure she is not high then you can send your child there ALONE!!!) NO freaking way .

Pleaseee dont sell me the line it's hard bc it was her mom and child's grandma so it was to hard to keep them apart. That's BS sorry but it is. Many cut ties with their biological family in order to save their children MANY people Break the cycle of abuse and yes it's abuse when the child is neglicted. I broke the cycle this very year by adoption my sisters children. Guess what ? My sister will NEVER EVER see *her bio childen* now MY children again. NORE will their Grandma or their Grandpa. PERIOD they are not safe ppl. Grandma takes to many drugs ( given by her dr which she DONT need) and Grandpa is a evil man. Mom was a Druggie. so yes I CAN say this would never ever ever happen in my family because I stepped up and made sure it stopped. These children ( my babies!!) now never ever have to see the monsters again.

I am sorry stupidityiseverywher but stop with the excuses.............. THIS MOM FAILED the child JUST as much as Grandma did. YES MANY of us understand on this site what it is like to haev families like this and we have broken the cycles and saved the children. This mom could of also. She was either to LAZY or she didnt pay enough attention.... JMO I KNOW breaking the cycle is hard. It's a damn lonely road but If I could do it this mom could of did it also. We went from a family of 4 to 8 in a YEAR to protect these children and this mom couldnt protect ONE????????????? child??????????????????? WHy couldn't she WALK the child to Grandma's? What in the world could of been more important then making sure her child was safe???????? Let me answer that for you. NOTHING is more important then that.


YOU seem like a very loving Aunt and I command you. My heart breaks for YOU. and i pray for you EVERY night.But that won't change MO on the mom and grandma.

 

[6angels]

She went threw the vomit to be sure there were no pills after going to gmas and cleaning up pills. The symptoms the first time were not set in, ray told her mom because she got scared and her mom called 911. The missprint,,, she said jay(my brother) turned her over and she was gone and that sometime that night my baby left. The exzact wording takes to long for me to right but those were the missprints. And kris called g ma to see if it was ok for ray to come get potatos, so she knew she was comming. Kris went down there after ray said gma was somad out again and there were pills everywhere. She went to check on her mom and cleaned the pills up not knowing ray already had some she cleaned them up seen that the lock was broken on the box then locked them up in her car, just for gma later that night to go down to kris's house and kris heard something outside, the gma was trying to get into kris's car to get her pills after her grandaughter just passed she was worried about getting her pills out. I know alot of you are stciking up for gma but let me tell you if you knew her you wouldb't be.

Just to think...... If she would of walked down there with her in the first place this would not of happened. Oh but thats right.................... The mom is not to blame ( cough)

 

[6angels]

Ok but ray was a child gma was a adult. What has happend can never be changed but when you do keep the kids away from gma and she is on your door step crying and begging to b able to see the kids and saying she will go by cps order and that she will not get high when the kids are around,,,what do you do

are you kidding me? You tell her FINE go to CPS!!! Then you explain to CPS that Grandma abuses drugs. PERIOD Cps would NEVER give her unsupervised visits!! You get a restraining order on her mother(grandma) against the child thats what you do. You call the cops everytime Grandma came over crying and begging. YOU DO what you HAVE to do to protect your child NO MATTER how HARD it is.
That's what you do. YOU save your child's life. UGH NO more excuses I am sorry but this baby was failed. OH Mom could of also moved. Even if out of the same town. Get a job save up make a new life for her and her daughter. YES it would be hard but it is done every single day in USA. not all parents fail their children but this one did when she could of been saved. HELL she could of went and got advice from a battered womans shelter. She does not have to be battered to get the advice. There is a LIST of things she COULD of did but she DIDNT DO.. Your painting a horriable pic of grandma but yet MOM allowed her daughter to go over there ALONE! Knowing her grandma is .Sorry but your not helping moms case here. JMO She needs to put her big girl panties on and admitt her mistakes how she failed her daughter. I MEAN REALLY after reading what YOU have said about Grandma why in the WORLD would a mom allow CHILD that has issues go over there alone even if for just a second. UGH excuse excuse

 

[6angels]

stupidityiseverywher noone is blaiming your brother. From what you said he was a stand up dad and tried to keep the children away. Our beef is with MOM and Grandma. I know I come off as Harsh........ But i can't stand moms that cant protect their children....... YES IT MAY be hard at times but in this case ( the last OD) it was pretty damn simple........ Get off her butt and walk her daughter down there or better yet.......... Go get it her self.

 

[WhyaDuck?]

Such a sad story, and nothing that can be done to save this poor, troubled little girl now. But I do wish that they had have taken her to the doctor as a precaution when they heard she was unattended at the house with "pills all over the floor." I don't think anyone would have blamed them for reacting in this way, seeing the girl's previous events.

But whatever I wish people had have done, the girl is still dead. Very sad.

Deepest sympathies to the family, as they all will have to carry all sorts of "should'ves" for the rest of their lives.

 

[Oblio]

I have never, ever met anybody in your family as far as I know. This being a small community I have encountered two people who have encountered them, the girl who bought the trailer and another older woman who went to school with gma. I have no idea what color the trailer is, and well, the girl quit, conveniently enough. (Not that I ever actually worked with her, we were in completely different departments with very opposite shifts. She made the statement to me while she was working and I was in on my free time. I haven't seen her for about a week now and I don't know when I will again, as she moved to oregon.)

 

[wonders]

EVERYONE in Rayanna's life failed her. EVERYONE in Rayanna's life knew she was troubled. SOMEONE in Rayanna's life should have intervined BEFORE the FIRST OD. PERIOD.
Shoulda, coulda and woulda will never bring back Rayanna.
I hope that poor little Rayanna is at peace and may she rest in Gods arms.

 

[stupidityiseverywher]

I am not making excuses, i am stating what ive have seen and what i have been told, also answering questions that people have asked and giving them my point of view.. Congrats for saving your kids(nieces and nephews) i whish i could of saved mine.. You can rest ashure my kids will never need saving for they are not and never will b in danger. I will never allow that nor my nephew. I know how you feel, i have 2 nephews, 1 niece, my mom, my brother and 3 of my kids living with me so i know they are safe and my moms health is not good so she lives with e so i can take care of her. I have nursisng certificates so i know alot about thease legal drugs that should be illegal and health care. As far as making excuses if thats what people feel im doing then i will back out and not thread anymore. I am simply telling the truth as i know it and trying to help people get the facts instead of what you hear in the news. But i dont want to do this at all, its like reliving it everyday, im doing it for my family . It seams since i started all i have done is give people more reason to ask questions a very harsh way(not remberig that our family just had a loss, there are alot of ways to word questions without being mean) also understanding this pisses people off and i would not want people to not b pisses considering a child was lost, im just saying the questions directed at me do not have to be so mean, i am not the gma and i am not the mom. So if all i am doing is making excuses then i will stop threading and just read.

if we shouldnt be sticking up for grandma....... Then why in the world would she allow her around her. Ugh see this is why mom is just as responable. I pegged it right away that there was a safety agreement with the state. The mom and the grandma failed this beautiful child. You can't just blame grandma when you your self say how awful grandma is. The mom knew. She needs to be arrested on the fact she didnt protect her child. I have delt with dhs( cps) my whole life as a foster child then foster mom and now adoptive mom and i can almost guarantee you the safety plan did not say ( call grandma first to make sure she is not high then you can send your child there alone!!!) no freaking way .

Pleaseee dont sell me the line it's hard bc it was her mom and child's grandma so it was to hard to keep them apart. That's bs sorry but it is. Many cut ties with their biological family in order to save their children many people break the cycle of abuse and yes it's abuse when the child is neglicted. I broke the cycle this very year by adoption my sisters children. Guess what ? My sister will never ever see *her bio childen* now my children again. Nore will their grandma or their grandpa. Period they are not safe ppl. Grandma takes to many drugs ( given by her dr which she dont need) and grandpa is a evil man. Mom was a druggie. So yes i can say this would never ever ever happen in my family because i stepped up and made sure it stopped. These children ( my babies!!) now never ever have to see the monsters again.

I am sorry stupidityiseverywher but stop with the excuses.............. This mom failed the child just as much as grandma did. Yes many of us understand on this site what it is like to haev families like this and we have broken the cycles and saved the children. This mom could of also. She was either to lazy or she didnt pay enough attention.... Jmo i know breaking the cycle is hard. It's a damn lonely road but if i could do it this mom could of did it also. We went from a family of 4 to 8 in a year to protect these children and this mom couldnt protect one????????????? Child??????????????????? Why couldn't she walk the child to grandma's? What in the world could of been more important then making sure her child was safe???????? Let me answer that for you. Nothing is more important then that.


You seem like a very loving aunt and i command you. My heart breaks for you. And i pray for you every night.but that won't change mo on the mom and grandma.

 

[stupidityiseverywher]

WOW YOU TELL ME WHAT A AUNT 9 HOURS AWAY THAT DID NOT LIVE AROUND HER EXCEPT WHEN SHE LIVED WITH ME AND DIDNT FIND OUT ABOUT THE 3 OD ATTEMPTS UNTILL IT WAS TO LATE WAS SUPPOSED TO DO. i ONLY KNEW OF 1 AND HEARD THAT CPS WAS INVOLVED AND THAT THERE WAS A PLAN SO I THOUGHT IT WAS HANDELED( REMINDING YOU WHERE I LIVE CPS DONT MESS AROUND), IM NOT THERE I DONT KNOW THAT IT WAS OR WAS NOT BEING FOLLOWED BY GMA I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT MOM FOLLOWED IT TO WHERE HER MEDS GOT LOCKED UP AND THE KEY GOT PU AROUND HER NECK THE FIRST TIME IT HAPPEND AND IS STILL ON HER NECK TO THIS DAY, I DID NOT KNOW RAY WAS GOING TO GMAS, LIKE I SAID BEFORE I AM ONLY SAYING WHAT I HAVE SEEN AND HAVE BEEN TOLD. IF I KNEW GIVING RAY AND MY BROTHER A VOICE BECAUSE ALOT OF STUFF SAID ON HERE IS NOT TRUE WOULD TURN TO A ATTACK ON ME AND WHA T I AM SAYING I NEVER WOULD OF STARTED. I HOPE YOU NEVER GO THROUGH A LOSS LIKE THIS AND TRY TO GET PEOPLE TO KNOW THE TRUTH GOOD OR BAD AND STAND UP FOR YOUR NIECE AND FAM BECAUSE ITS NOT EASY TO DO THIS WITH ALL THE CIRCUMSTANCES SURROUNDING IT.

EVERYONE in Rayanna's life failed her. EVERYONE in Rayanna's life knew she was troubled. SOMEONE in Rayanna's life should have intervined BEFORE the FIRST OD. PERIOD.
Shoulda, coulda and woulda will never bring back Rayanna.
I hope that poor little Rayanna is at peace and may she rest in Gods arms.

 

[stupidityiseverywher]

As i wish the same. And you are right the what if and should haves are going to linger for ever, and i even question the what ifs my self. Thnak you for you kind words

such a sad story, and nothing that can be done to save this poor, troubled little girl now. But i do wish that they had have taken her to the doctor as a precaution when they heard she was unattended at the house with "pills all over the floor." i don't think anyone would have blamed them for reacting in this way, seeing the girl's previous events.

But whatever i wish people had have done, the girl is still dead. Very sad.

Deepest sympathies to the family, as they all will have to carry all sorts of "should'ves" for the rest of their lives.

 

[stupidityiseverywher]

I think you missread, gma wasnt threating to go to cps she was saying she would go by the cps order

are you kidding me? You tell her fine go to cps!!! Then you explain to cps that grandma abuses drugs. Period cps would never give her unsupervised visits!! You get a restraining order on her mother(grandma) against the child thats what you do. You call the cops everytime grandma came over crying and begging. You do what you have to do to protect your child no matter how hard it is.
That's what you do. You save your child's life. Ugh no more excuses i am sorry but this baby was failed. Oh mom could of also moved. Even if out of the same town. Get a job save up make a new life for her and her daughter. Yes it would be hard but it is done every single day in usa. Not all parents fail their children but this one did when she could of been saved. Hell she could of went and got advice from a battered womans shelter. She does not have to be battered to get the advice. There is a list of things she could of did but she didnt do.. Your painting a horriable pic of grandma but yet mom allowed her daughter to go over there alone! Knowing her grandma is .sorry but your not helping moms case here. Jmo she needs to put her big girl panties on and admitt her mistakes how she failed her daughter. I mean really after reading what you have said about grandma why in the world would a mom allow child that has issues go over there alone even if for just a second. Ugh excuse excuse

 

[OneLostGrl]

I am not making excuses, i am stating what ive have seen and what i have been told, also answering questions that people have asked and giving them my point of view.. Congrats for saving your kids(nieces and nephews) i whish i could of saved mine.. You can rest ashure my kids will never need saving for they are not and never will b in danger. I will never allow that nor my nephew. I know how you feel, i have 2 nephews, 1 niece, my mom, my brother and 3 of my kids living with me so i know they are safe and my moms health is not good so she lives with e so i can take care of her. I have nursisng certificates so i know alot about thease legal drugs that should be illegal and health care. As far as making excuses if thats what people feel im doing then i will back out and not thread anymore. I am simply telling the truth as i know it and trying to help people get the facts instead of what you hear in the news. But i dont want to do this at all, its like reliving it everyday, im doing it for my family . It seams since i started all i have done is give people more reason to ask questions a very harsh way(not remberig that our family just had a loss, there are alot of ways to word questions without being mean) also understanding this pisses people off and i would not want people to not b pisses considering a child was lost, im just saying the questions directed at me do not have to be so mean, i am not the gma and i am not the mom. So if all i am doing is making excuses then i will stop threading and just read.

I can't imagine what reading here does to you.. and then to have people question you, you must feel judged and that has got to hurt as you have done nothing wrong! What people are reacting to when speaking to you is the angry and rude comments you posted when you first began posting. You got defensive and in turn so did everyone else. I get why you were so angry, I honestly do- you turn on your computer, do a search and find all these people, these strangers taking about your family, your dead niece. I'd have gotten banned on my first post if I found people talking about my family! But I think it is important that you keep your posts, your responses in mind when you read others responses and questions to you. Everyone reacts to how they are treated.

Sometimes coming to a place like this is not a good idea for family members of victims because it keeps their pain raw, having to read and participate in the discussion on their dead family member. Looking past your anger I can see your pain in every post you write, every time you have to defend a family member, every time you have to explain things about your brothers wife side of the family. Maybe this isn't such a good place for you- maybe you should stop reading here and allow yourself to heal privately.You don't owe us anything- we have no right to know anything.

You and your family (including grandma- she is an addict not an evil person) are in my thoughts and prayers. I wish you all nothing but hope and healing! :blowkiss:

 

[Kat]

This post is for stupidityiseverywher. I rarely if ever post a message to a family member that comes here after the sudden loss of the life of a child. There is no particular reason why other than I, personally, do not want to add to the pain by words that could be interpreted as unkind or uncaring. I try my best to treat my interactions here with anyone the same as if the poster I am responding to were standing face to face with me.

stupidityiseverywher I have read your posts. Your pain is palpable to me through your words. I sincerely hope that peace will come to your heart eventually. I'm so very sorry for your loss.

Please read what the poster above me has written to you. Onelostgrl said very succinctly that you do not owe anyone an explanation, you do not have to answer any questions because we do not have the right to ask or know any information from you, nor do you need to defend anyone in your family to anonymous posters.

stupidityiseverywher this will probably be the only time I will speak directly to you through a post. Your anger, frustration and pain that comes through loud and clear through your posts tells me that you loved your neice. That you continue to love her and always will. Don't read anymore or answer anymore questions if this continues to upset you, I will echo again onelostgrl...please allow yourself to journey towards a place where healing can begin. My prayers are with you at this time~may angels wrap their arms around your heart.

There but for the grace of God go I.

~kat~

 

[6angels]

I am not making excuses, i am stating what ive have seen and what i have been told, also answering questions that people have asked and giving them my point of view.. Congrats for saving your kids(nieces and nephews) i whish i could of saved mine.. You can rest ashure my kids will never need saving for they are not and never will b in danger. I will never allow that nor my nephew. I know how you feel, i have 2 nephews, 1 niece, my mom, my brother and 3 of my kids living with me so i know they are safe and my moms health is not good so she lives with e so i can take care of her. I have nursisng certificates so i know alot about thease legal drugs that should be illegal and health care. As far as making excuses if thats what people feel im doing then i will back out and not thread anymore. I am simply telling the truth as i know it and trying to help people get the facts instead of what you hear in the news. But i dont want to do this at all, its like reliving it everyday, im doing it for my family . It seams since i started all i have done is give people more reason to ask questions a very harsh way(not remberig that our family just had a loss, there are alot of ways to word questions without being mean) also understanding this pisses people off and i would not want people to not b pisses considering a child was lost, im just saying the questions directed at me do not have to be so mean, i am not the gma and i am not the mom. So if all i am doing is making excuses then i will stop threading and just read.

I am not blaming you...... I am NOT at ALL. never once have I or would I. I am blaming the mom and grandma ( and the state) where the blame lies. They could of Could of Could of could of could of and SHOULD of Saved this child. Honey I KNOW it's hard and I'm sorry you have to be in so much pain. If I could ease your pain I WOULD. Above all above EVERYTHING. My feelings, your feelings, everyones feelings this child was failed.

 

[6angels]

WOW YOU TELL ME WHAT A AUNT 9 HOURS AWAY THAT DID NOT LIVE AROUND HER EXCEPT WHEN SHE LIVED WITH ME AND DIDNT FIND OUT ABOUT THE 3 OD ATTEMPTS UNTILL IT WAS TO LATE WAS SUPPOSED TO DO. i ONLY KNEW OF 1 AND HEARD THAT CPS WAS INVOLVED AND THAT THERE WAS A PLAN SO I THOUGHT IT WAS HANDELED( REMINDING YOU WHERE I LIVE CPS DONT MESS AROUND), IM NOT THERE I DONT KNOW THAT IT WAS OR WAS NOT BEING FOLLOWED BY GMA I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT MOM FOLLOWED IT TO WHERE HER MEDS GOT LOCKED UP AND THE KEY GOT PU AROUND HER NECK THE FIRST TIME IT HAPPEND AND IS STILL ON HER NECK TO THIS DAY, I DID NOT KNOW RAY WAS GOING TO GMAS, LIKE I SAID BEFORE I AM ONLY SAYING WHAT I HAVE SEEN AND HAVE BEEN TOLD. IF I KNEW GIVING RAY AND MY BROTHER A VOICE BECAUSE ALOT OF STUFF SAID ON HERE IS NOT TRUE WOULD TURN TO A ATTACK ON ME AND WHA T I AM SAYING I NEVER WOULD OF STARTED. I HOPE YOU NEVER GO THROUGH A LOSS LIKE THIS AND TRY TO GET PEOPLE TO KNOW THE TRUTH GOOD OR BAD AND STAND UP FOR YOUR NIECE AND FAM BECAUSE ITS NOT EASY TO DO THIS WITH ALL THE CIRCUMSTANCES SURROUNDING IT.

No its not your fault in any shape or forum unless you knew mom was still allowing her around grandma alone WHICH you didnt and I BELIEVE YOU DIDNT. so no it's not your fault AT ALL> YOU HOLD NO BLAME IN this ANGEL dieing at all. I hope you know that. I bet youw as the best auntie ever to her and brung her a lot of joy. God Bless you BUT it is moms and grandma's fault.

My anger is not to you...... it is to Grandma and mom NOT YOU at ALL. I know its not your fault just like I know it was not my fault my sister and the man of the hour abused her bio children ( now MY children)

We can't blame the extended family that had no idea she was being failed but we CAN blame the ones that knew and did nothing. I don't for one second think you failed her.

 

[stupidityiseverywher]

I thank you from the bottom of my heart for your kind word, believe me it is very refreshing, also 6 angels(im thinking you have 6 kids hints the name and i like the name if thats the case) one lost girl, you guys have brighten my day, i havent been on here for 2 days my nephew has kept me running( and i enjoy every minnute of it ) but it was such a relief to see kind words from you 3 i was dreading getting on here, just for the people that has respected me on here i will keep you updated on court and what is happening, but i will no longer be answering questions, thank you everyone that has given prayer and warm thoughts for my family. Thank you all,,,rest in peace rayanna nail.

this post is for stupidityiseverywher. I rarely if ever post a message to a family member that comes here after the sudden loss of the life of a child. There is no particular reason why other than i, personally, do not want to add to the pain by words that could be interpreted as unkind or uncaring. I try my best to treat my interactions here with anyone the same as if the poster i am responding to were standing face to face with me.

Stupidityiseverywher i have read your posts. Your pain is palpable to me through your words. I sincerely hope that peace will come to your heart eventually. I'm so very sorry for your loss.

Please read what the poster above me has written to you. Onelostgrl said very succinctly that you do not owe anyone an explanation, you do not have to answer any questions because we do not have the right to ask or know any information from you, nor do you need to defend anyone in your family to anonymous posters.

Stupidityiseverywher this will probably be the only time i will speak directly to you through a post. Your anger, frustration and pain that comes through loud and clear through your posts tells me that you loved your neice. That you continue to love her and always will. Don't read anymore or answer anymore questions if this continues to upset you, i will echo again onelostgrl...please allow yourself to journey towards a place where healing can begin. My prayers are with you at this time~may angels wrap their arms around your heart.

There but for the grace of god go i.

~kat~

 

[STEADFAST]

"A Klamath woman will go to trial on suspicion of causing her granddaughter’s overdose death last month.
Judge William Follett ruled Tuesday that there was sufficient evidence to try Terry Lane, 51, in the July 31 death of Rayanna Nail, 10.
Lane will face charges of involuntary manslaughter and child endangerment with two enhancements of causing great bodily injury and causing great bodily injury or death.
Del Norte District Attorney Mike Riese said the enhancements pertain to the child endangerment charge, alleging that Lane had “put the child in such a surrounding that you (Lane) caused this child to suffer prior to her death. ”



Much more at link, plus photos:
http://www.triplicate.com/20090827106801/News/Local-News/Grandmother-to-stand-trial