Found Deceased CA - Raymond Tyler, 38, found deceased in Willits, 5 Aug 2023

[Gemmie]

Whoa....

 

[Klingon]

Willits police union votes no confidence amidst short staffing and allegations of misconduct

The Willits Police Officers Association took a vote of no confidence in the city manager as the police chief prepares to depart, a sergeant was dismissed, and another officer is accused of misconduct. Other law enforcement agencies are filling in for the short-staffed department.

www.kzyx.org

 

[Gemmie]

I read the report today.
He was found with a .22 caliper pistol. Two casing were found. One bullet was lodged in his brain. There was an entrance wound to the forehead and injuries consistent with the trajectory. The scene was undisturbed and he was found crossed legged with the gun in his lap. The report shows the serial number of the revolver. However the police will Not be looking for the owner. He was approx 130ft from the residence he was last spotted at and approx 190ft from redwood highway.
The toxicology report shows negative for everything drugs and alcohol Even thc.
His phone has not been found. (He did not have it at the hospital with him when he was released). His backpack and hatchet have also were not at the scene. He was last seen with those when he was dropped off at the residence.

One quick question as I just now noticed that there were 2 casings found. 2?!? Was the bullet to his head the ONLY bullet wound? If so, then what in the world was the other casing doing there? What/who was shot at by whom? IF (and I don't believe this to be the case) Raymond died by suicide... he wouldn't have missed so badly with the first shot. That 2nd casing has me puzzled.

 

[Klingon]

It’s a revolver so the other casing could have hypothetically been from anytime. With a revolver the casing isn’t expelled automatically from the gun.

 

[Klingon]

I found the statistics, 7%of suicide by gunshot are in the forehead.

 

[bombardier]

Does anyone know how common it is for someone to commit suicide by shooting. Themselves in the forehead?

Hi Klingon, it's not the most common location for suicides but it's fairy common. There's a bunch of papers on it (most are locked behind a paywall) but here's one I found with the info in the abstract; in this study from Hamburg, 11% of suicidal gunshot wounds were to the forehead. What is more indicative of suicide vs foul play is the direction of the bullet i.e. if someone right-handed held a gun to their forehead, the trajectory is either front-to-back or or slightly pointed to the left. If the trajectory is downwards, upwards, or opposing their dominant hand, then that warrants more looking into. The medical examiner should also be able to tell how far away the gun when when it was fired, and a suicidal injury would likely show a contact wound or stippling.

 

[Klingon]

The problem is that he decomposed in a hundred degree weather for 16 days outdoors before he was found so anything that was in or on the soft tissues was long gone.

Am I allowed to post the actual report on here?

 

[Klingon]

If there is a professional on here that would be willing to go over the full report for me and explain it in lay men’s terms, I have full report in hand.

 

[Gemmie]

The problem is that he decomposed in a hundred degree weather for 16 days outdoors before he was found so anything that was in or on the soft tissues was long gone.

Am I allowed to post the actual report on here?

Yes, you are allowed to. I've seen links to them. I searched this site to see if I could find an example to show you it's OK and found this one (there's more).

Found Deceased - OH - Imperial Stewart, 17, Columbus, 20 Sep 2023

Ok, I searched the Franklin County Court of Common Pleas website for his name and found the following—the 11/14 court date saw both of the parties request a continuance for purposes of “discovery” so I guess that’s why he is now supposed to be in court on December 18th. Off-topic: can I just...

www.websleuths.com

Normally posters have access to reports via MSM, which are linked to the reports, since most people don't have access to an actual report. Family would, but most of us aren't family.

 

[Gemmie]

If there is a professional on here that would be willing to go over the full report for me and explain it in lay men’s terms, I have full report in hand.

I have some people I will ask to see if they can help out. I know some are very versed in this sort of thing, I am not.

How many pages is it? I'm thinking it's short.

 

[bombardier]

If there is a professional on here that would be willing to go over the full report for me and explain it in lay men’s terms, I have full report in hand.

I'm a path assistant who performs autopsies (and did a month of forensic autopsies), so when you post it, i'd be happy to take a look

 

[katydid23]

The only person I can think of who would do something like that is like an ex, or a partner you've asked to divorce, and they wanted to lay a guilt trip on them by doing it at their house. But other than that, I can't think of any other reason, and that doesn't appear to apply here. Just answering your Q who would do something like that.

Yes, if you wanted to 'guilt trip' someone, maybe you'd kill yourself on their property.

But this didn't seem to be a situation like that. But I do have to wonder---would anyone on that property or on a surrounding property, have a motive to harm Raymond?

 

[katydid23]

It happens much more often than you would think. This particular study estimates that around 3/4 of all suicides are completed at home, which leaves 1/4 as completed somewhere other than home.

Means Matter | Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health

Most efforts to prevent suicide focus on why people take their lives. But as we understand more about who attempts suicide

www.hsph.harvard.edu

Of the many people in my life who have been lost to suicide, it's almost the reverse with the majority being someplace other than their home (e.g. in the woods, in cemeteries, and parks), but that is just my experience. I've always assumed it was so loved ones wouldn't be the first to find them.

MOO.

Parks, the woods and cemeteries make a lot of sense, as a suicide destination. But a random friends front yard?

 

[Klingon]

The autopsy report is several pages I’ll have to load it to my computer and do it one page at a time.
I also have the police paperwork with the summaries from the police officers.

 

[Klingon]

i took pictures of the report and it is too large to upload so now im not sure how to do this

 

[Gemmie]

When you said it's too big to upload I'm thinking you used the Attach files button at the bottom of this window? I've personally never used it and instead I paste screenshots directly into this window where I'm typing. That seems to work best for me like if I right-clicked on an image and select Paste, and then this site tells me the image is too large... I then copy the image like I explain below. That has always worked if an image file is too large.

Perhaps post clips of it a section at a time since the whole thing is too big. No clue how to do that if on a Mac, but on a PC it's Windows symbol

+ Shift + S (all at the same time. See below). The screen will gray out. That's when you use your mouse to highlight the area you want to paste. As soon as you take your finger off your mouse it will be in your clipboard ready to paste.

Come over here, click on this window like you're going to type a message, and do a Ctrl-V to paste it in here. Lather, rinse, repeat. I'm sure there are a bazillion different ways to do this (as with anything computer related). That's the way I like to do it.

 

[Klingon]

Tyler20232.pdf

drive.google.com

 

[Klingon]

I hope I did that right, the link above should be to the autopsy report

 

[Gemmie]

Cool. Another way of doing it. I told ya there was a bazillion different ways.

But, it's not public so is requiring a password. I Goog'ed for how to do it, as I never have, so cannot be sure this works, but it seems like it would. Link to where I got it at the very bottom.

To share your file publicly: Step 1: Select the blue Share button in the top right-hand side of your chosen Drive file.

Step 2: Select > Advanced in the bottom right-hand side, select > Change

Step 3: You’ll see a range of Link Sharing options.

Step 4: Choose > On - public on the web > Choose Save

This means anyone on the Internet can find and access your file - no sign-in required.

Step 5: Make sure to copy your new updated URL before sharing it

Share a Google Drive file publicly | Workspace Tips

Share your Google Drive files publicly with no sign in required You can simply share your Drive files publicly with people outside of your organisation by changing the link-sharing options available

workspacetips.io

 

[Klingon]

Tyler20232.pdf

drive.google.com

Okay how about this one?