CA CA - Santa Ana, WhtHispMale 30-40, UP7666, Accidental, Oct'88

[YaYa_521]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

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7 exclusions:

Kenneth Beltram CA
Samual Elsafadi CA
Andrew Ewing CA
Howard Green CA
Kenneth Paton CA
Jerry Plaster VA
Amadeo Vigil CO

11UMCA

11UMCA - Unidentified Male​

Date of Discovery: October 10, 1988
Location of Discovery: Santa Ana, Orange County, California
Estimated Date of Death: Same day
State of Remains: Recognizable face
Cause of Death: Accidental

Physical Description​

Estimated Age: 30-40 years old
Race: White and/or Hispanic
Sex: Male
Height: 5'7"
Weight: 127 lbs.
Hair Color: Black. Wore a mustache and goatee.
Eye Color: Brown
Distinguishing Marks/Features: He had a normal physique and was well-nourished. Suffered from Hepatitis A. 1" scar between eyes. A+ blood type.

Identifiers​

Dentals: Available. Restorations #12,14. Caries #2,13-15. Heavy incisal wear.
Fingerprints: Available.
DNA: Not available.

Clothing & Personal Items​

Clothing: Gray trousers and blue socks.
Jewelry: Unknown
Additional Personal Items: Unknown

Circumstances of Discovery​

The decedent, believed to be a transient, appeared intoxicated and was witnessed to vomit and then collapsed at a rescue center. He was later transported to the Coastal Communities Hospital where he was pronounced dead. He suffered from a subdural hematoma with blunt force trauma to head.

Investigating Agency(s)​

Agency Name: Orange County Coroner
Agency Contact Person: Scott Hayes
Agency Phone Number: 714-647-7411
Agency E-Mail: coroner(at)ocsd.org
Agency Case Number: 88-05308-LY

NCIC Case Number: U445545767
NamUs Case Number: 7666

Information Source(s)​

NamUs
Orange County Coroner

Admin Notes​

Added: Prior to 2005; Last Updated: 12/30/17

 

[lolz]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

7 exclusions:

Kenneth Beltram CA
Samual Elsafadi CA
Andrew Ewing CA
Howard Green CA
Kenneth Paton CA
Jerry Plaster VA
Amadeo Vigil CO

11UMCA

11UMCA - Unidentified Male​

Date of Discovery: October 10, 1988
Location of Discovery: Santa Ana, Orange County, California
Estimated Date of Death: Same day
State of Remains: Recognizable face
Cause of Death: Accidental

Physical Description​

Estimated Age: 30-40 years old
Race: White and/or Hispanic
Sex: Male
Height: 5'7"
Weight: 127 lbs.
Hair Color: Black. Wore a mustache and goatee.
Eye Color: Brown
Distinguishing Marks/Features: He had a normal physique and was well-nourished. Suffered from Hepatitis A. 1" scar between eyes. A+ blood type.

Identifiers​

Dentals: Available. Restorations #12,14. Caries #2,13-15. Heavy incisal wear.
Fingerprints: Available.
DNA: Not available.

Clothing & Personal Items​

Clothing: Gray trousers and blue socks.
Jewelry: Unknown
Additional Personal Items: Unknown

Circumstances of Discovery​

The decedent, believed to be a transient, appeared intoxicated and was witnessed to vomit and then collapsed at a rescue center. He was later transported to the Coastal Communities Hospital where he was pronounced dead. He suffered from a subdural hematoma with blunt force trauma to head.

Investigating Agency(s)​

Agency Name: Orange County Coroner
Agency Contact Person: Scott Hayes
Agency Phone Number: 714-647-7411
Agency E-Mail: coroner(at)ocsd.org
Agency Case Number: 88-05308-LY

NCIC Case Number: U445545767
NamUs Case Number: 7666

Information Source(s)​

NamUs
Orange County Coroner

Admin Notes​

Added: Prior to 2005; Last Updated: 12/30/17

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
Miguel Moscoso – The Charley Project
Miguel Moscoso? Fits the description. Known to be a heavy drinker and was intoxicated when he went missing. Scar betwen eyes could have been new as he went missing in the beginning of 88.

180 pounds when he went missing. Could of dropped alot of weight between when he went missing and when he was found.
Sounds like his body gave up on him due to the lifestyle he lived.
MOO

 

[mandarini]

Or Alfonso Miranda Torres?

 

[mandarini]

Sorry for double posting, but I was in a hurry yesterday and afraid I would forget about the possible match.

In my opinion, both Miguel Moscoso and Alfonso Torres are good possibilities. They were last seen in 1988, same year the UID was found and disappeared near Santa Ana with plausible backstories.

Alfonso Torres had a prior history of disappearing and was found in LA according to his Charley Project Page. He resembles the sketch quite closely, but he had a tattoo of his nickname and there is no mentioning of a tattoo in the UID's case file.


Edit: I submitted Alfonso Torres through the Doe Network Match Panel, because his physical stats are so close to the UID, especially his face shape, moustache, height and weight and the distance is only 6 miles.

 

[mandarini]

I already received a reply. Wow, that was very fast. Alfonso Torres has previously been ruled out by dentals.

 

[lolz]

I already received a reply. Wow, that was very fast. Alfonso Torres has previously been ruled out by dentals.

Maybe submit moscoso as well. Torres was a good match though, I thought the same, his characteristics were very similar to the sketch.

As Torres was mentally disabled and escaped from a care facility, I didn't think it was him due to the fact it didn't sound like he was living a alcoholic lifestyle. The does body probably gave up on him after years of abuse.
Moo

 

[mandarini]

Maybe submit moscoso as well. Torres was a good match though, I thought the same, his characteristics were very similar to the sketch.

As Torres was mentally disabled and escaped from a care facility, I didn't think it was him due to the fact it didn't sound like he was living a alcoholic lifestyle. The does body probably gave up on him after years of abuse.
Moo

I can submit Moscoso, if you want me to, but I can only do it through Doe Network, because I do not have a NamUs account.

Yeah, Torres really looked like the sketch.