CA CA - Santa Cruz Co, WhtMale UP3057, 16-25, wooded area@Valencia Rd, Jul'74

[MadMcGoo]

Odd question, but do dimpled chins show up pretty well on skeletal remains? I’m assuming they do since some reconstructions do show them. The reason I ask is because Orin’s chin has always stood out to me, and it looks very similar to the recon of this UID. His other features are somewhat similar I guess. I wasn’t sure how uniquely dimpled chins presented themselves on skeletons, if they even do.

Orin Robin Anderson – The Charley Project

 

[theshadow45]

Bumping.

 

[theshadow45]

Bumping for Aptos John Doe.

 

[Lwieckowicz]

Where is the exclusions information? Are any of these 3 missing CA men excluded?
Edward Martin Zajac Jr. – The Charley Project

Johnnie Joe Herrera – The Charley Project

Martin Keith Burleson – The Charley Project

 

[theshadow45]

Aptos John Doe has been unidentified for 47 years today.

 

[Lwieckowicz]

Aptos John Doe has been unidentified for 47 years today.

Does anyone know where the exclusions list is? I know they thought he could be from Florida I’m wondering if it could be The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

 

[Tabirey]

Does anyone know where the exclusions list is? I know they thought he could be from Florida I’m wondering if it could be The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

Ralph is not on the public exclusions list in NamUs.

Namus exclusions for this UID:

MP14850 Angelo Gatti 07/13/1974
Orange CA
MP37983 Glen Walls 11/08/1972
Cascade MT
MP20178 Richard Strehle 07/05/1973
El Dorado CA
MP7770 Alan Soper 06/07/1974
Tulsa OK

 

[Lwieckowicz]

Ralph is not on the public exclusions list in NamUs.

Namus exclusions for this UID:

MP14850 Angelo Gatti 07/13/1974
Orange CA
MP37983 Glen Walls 11/08/1972
Cascade MT
MP20178 Richard Strehle 07/05/1973
El Dorado CA
MP7770 Alan Soper 06/07/1974
Tulsa OK

Thank you I submitted him.

 

[John/Jane Doe]

2426UMCA

 

[theshadow45]

Aptos John Doe has been unidentified for 48 years today.

 

[MadMcGoo]

14 Jul 1974, Page 2 - Santa Cruz Sentinel at Newspapers.com

www.newspapers.com

The victim had been shot more than once with a weapon of unknown caliber.

Deputies theorized he had been dead more than a month.

18 Jul 1974, Page 5 - Vallejo Times-Herald at Newspapers.com

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He had been shot three times in the head.

15-25 years old.

Lack of any dental work.

Had been dead 1 to 6 months.

 

[Lwieckowicz]

I used to live off of Valencia road so this bothers me extra and to think this young man is still unidentified

 

[John/Jane Doe]

Thank you I submitted him.

Hey @Lwieckowicz did you get any feedback on Ralph? I would appreciate if someone could post the updated NamUs Aptos John Doe exclusion list.

 

[Caring1]

No new exclusions.

4 Missing Person Exclusions:

Missing Person / NamUs #MP14850Angelo Gatti
Date of Last ContactJuly 13, 1974
StateCA
CountyOrange

Missing Person / NamUs #MP37983Glen Walls
Date of Last ContactNovember 08, 1972
StateMT
CountyCascade

Missing Person / NamUs #MP20178Richard Strehle
Date of Last ContactJuly 05, 1973
StateCA
CountyEl Dorado

Missing Person / NamUs #MP7770Alan Soper
Date of Last ContactJune 07, 1974
StateOK
CountyTulsa

 

[Lwieckowicz]

Hey @Lwieckowicz did you get any feedback on Ralph? I would appreciate if someone could post the updated NamUs Aptos John Doe exclusion list.

I got none whatsoever. I’m guessing the people in charge are so inundated with leads that if they don’t pan out you don’t hear back but it would be nice to update the exclusion list like you were saying if that was ruled out officially then at least we know who he’s not..

 

[theshadow45]

Aptos John Doe has been unidentified for 49 years today.

 

[theshadow45]

Aptos John Doe has been unidentified for 50 years today.

 

[theshadow45]

Aptos John Doe has been unidentified for 51 years today.

 

[ChatteringBirds]

@snooptroop88 suggested the possibility of Mitchel B for this UID. Mitchel's link in NamUs:

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

Although it seems unlikely, since Mitchel went missing from the other side of the country, you never know. And it seems like DNA is available for both(?)
One other cavet- I'm not sure if Mitchel's hair could have grown to shoulder length?

 

[snooptroop88]

@snooptroop88 suggested the possibility of Mitchel B for this UID. Mitchel's link in NamUs:

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

Although it seems unlikely, since Mitchel went missing from the other side of the country, you never know. And it seems like DNA is available for both(?)
One other cavet- I'm not sure if Mitchel's hair could have grown to shoulder length?

NYTimes:

After notifying the Pblice Department's Bureau of Missing Persons, both families mailed out thousands of “missing” circulars describing 4‐foot‐11‐inch, 90‐pound Bonnie with the “long brown wavy hair” and 5‐foot‐7‐inch, 140‐pound Mitchell with “brown shoulder‐length hair parted in the middle and tied back.” And the parents have done their own detective work.

2 Who Set Out for Watkins Glen Are Still Gone (Published 1974)

www.nytimes.com