Found Alive CA - Sherri Papini, 34, Redding, 2 November 2016 - #1

[Pamela_Brewer]

Sbm.

This is very exciting! What is the name of this app that will turn a phone on? My family REALLY needs this. Thank you!

https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/3118687?hl=en

For iPhone
https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/4388034?hl=en&ref_topic=7189122

 

[cattlekate]

What kind of phone did Sherri have? Was it an iPhone?

Find My iPhone has to have location services on in order to work. And location services also track movements and time stamps them. It might be the same with all modern phones. But if her phone only moved a mile from her house, I wonder if the phone could be precise enough to detect that?

 

[Pamela_Brewer]

https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/3118687?hl=en

For iPhone
https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/4388034?hl=en&ref_topic=7189122

An example with link to photo.

 

[mjp1228]

Her name was Sierah Joughin...just type in search box at top of page. Thank you for your compassion

I still have all of you in my prayers each day. I hope that someday, somehow you find peace in your memories of her and all of the love from people that have been touched by her story. God bless you all.

 

[Westsloper]

It is unusual to have kids in daycare if not employed. Most people would have a babysitter because they would not need consistent M-F, M/W, or T/Th care and day cares usually do not reserve a spot if not consistent.

 

[Westsloper]

if the husband has a gps tracker in his vehicle then he must drive around a lot for work to install. It seems easy to bring personal phone along on a driving job .

 

[Pamela_Brewer]

if the husband has a gps tracker in his vehicle then he must drive around a lot for work to install. It seems easy to bring personal phone along on a driving job .

Every call I have made for appliance repair, new heating/air they call 30 min before arrival, and during their visit. They also accessed the Internet for parts etc.
I can see them using only a "work cell" for that. Much easier for a company to track employees on phoes that they provide and pay for. I can also see them.checking their personal phones in between point a and b etc.

 

[Westsloper]

When he found out that she was running late to pick up kids, he must've gave her phone a ring... did it go straight to voicemail? If you call a phone and it has earbuds plugged in to it, does the ring sound go in to the earbuds? Were the earbuds plugged in when found? Did she typically run on the road with earbuds on?

 

[caligirl1992]

When he found out that she was running late to pick up kids, he must've gave her phone a ring... did it go straight to voicemail? If you call a phone and it has earbuds plugged in to it, does the ring sound go in to the earbuds? Were the earbuds plugged in when found? Did she typically run on the road with earbuds on?

All very good questions. I might have to check that out on my own phone. I do know when I have used the "find my iphone" app it makes a beeping sound, enabling me to find my phone, and I had to slide the screen to get the sound off. I am wondering if that sound would have also came out of her iphone with the ear buds plugged in. I was assuming that was maybe how he found the phone once he drove to the area, was by the sound from the find my iphone app. But now I'm wondering if it wouldn't have made the noise due to the ear buds and he got out and looked around for the phone to find it.

 

[katydid23]

Sbm.

This is very exciting! What is the name of this app that will turn a phone on? My family REALLY needs this. Thank you!

WOW. Would have LOVED to have that app when my daughter was a teen. lol

 

[katydid23]

if the husband has a gps tracker in his vehicle then he must drive around a lot for work to install. It seems easy to bring personal phone along on a driving job .

I think it was said earlier upthread, that he did take his personal cell with him but kept it in his car while inside on service calls.

 

[caligirl1992]

When he found out that she was running late to pick up kids, he must've gave her phone a ring... did it go straight to voicemail? If you call a phone and it has earbuds plugged in to it, does the ring sound go in to the earbuds? Were the earbuds plugged in when found? Did she typically run on the road with earbuds on?

Okay the phone does still ring with the ear buds plugged in. As far as the find my iphone app, you have to hit "play sound" for it to do the alert tone when looking for it. But if you do hit that it also plays the sound with the ear buds connected. I just tested this out with my phone, using my daughter's.

 

[AceDetective]

if the husband has a gps tracker in his vehicle then he must drive around a lot for work to install. It seems easy to bring personal phone along on a driving job .

He said, "I usually don’t bring my personal phone in on my job. So I didn’t respond to that message until 1:39 p.m. that day." (Source.)

Since he responded at 1:39, he clearly had the phone with him in his vehicle. He just didn't bring it into the install jobs.

 

[margarita25]

https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/3118687?hl=en

For iPhone
https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/4388034?hl=en&ref_topic=7189122

(Interesting, thanks. )

 

[GigTu]

Yes, LE is saying that, but I think that's a very dangerous assumption. If the dog couldn't even locate her scent on the phone, that's the fault of the dog or the scent object, not an indication that she wasn't there. IMHO.

Unless her scent was wiped off and the phone planted there...

 

[eeyorelrn]

Where in socal do you live? I lived in Pasadena, Orange County and now San Diego. The mom groups I'm active in average around 50 to 100 stay at home moms. It's not the norm in any of my circles. I can see you are very passionate about this and I understand why but just because you do something does not make it normal. A full time non-working mother who is in a dense area does not usually have her kids in daycare. I understand you do. It is not anything that is common where I have lived. And as you can see I've covered most of southern California. Where do you live?

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Very normal for my SAHM friends. Good old Southern families too. JFS

 

[DogRescuer]

Does anyone know where the strands of hair were found? I don't mean area, I mean literally where? On the ground? It seems odd to me that strands of hair didn't blow away... were they caught on something?

The phone bothers me. If you're abducting someone and you have an extremely limited amount of time to do so, it makes absolutely no sense to remove a phone from whatever holder it was in. I mean, how would that be done even? At the presumption that she would struggle... how would you take the phone off her person?

The language used during the interview bothers me immensely. But I'll leave that where it is and try and focus on questions on the evidence that has been confirmed.

So... phone and hair. Bothering me!

They said the few strands of hair were caught in the earbuds. Which is exactly what long hair does, it gets caught in earbuds whether you use your phone to listen to music on the train to work or are kidnapped.

Why do we assume the phone was removed from its holder during an abduction? I don't think we have seen anything that proves any of that happened.
Assuming she was abducted, there are very easy explanations as to why the phone could have ended up on the ground where it did:
1. She stopped to take a breather and check her phone, which is when she was grabbed. She certainly tries to fight back and doesn't care that her phone (with the earbuds) falls on the ground.
2. (This theory has been mentioned here several times before) She had been grabbed somewhere completely different, and her phone and earbuds (and possibly phone holder, which we have no idea if that's what it is on the video at all) were dropped at that spot either randomly, or on purpose to mislead LE.

As for the language used during the interviews: desperation (for the best possible reasons) brings out very different reactions in different people. Just because I think I would have reacted in a different way, or even if someone who have had a person go missing in their life did or didn't react in a different way, that really doesn't mean anything.
Think of another desperate and strong emotional process, which is something we all must have experienced and seen others experience: mourning. Is there a "right way" to mourn? Is someone that throws themselves on top of the coffin screaming necessarily in a greater pain than another, sitting quietly with a single tear in their eyes? They could be, or they could not be. We just don't know.
IMHO, from what's been released, there's been nothing that someone who's 100% innocent and 100% desperate couldn't have said. Maybe you think you wouldn't have. Maybe I think I wouldn't have. The one thing we definitely have in common is that neither of us is a desperate family member trying to find Sherri.

MOO

 

[AceDetective]

The phone could have been removed after the abduction, and discarded by the abductor while getting the heck out of there.

The bigger question is: why would the abductor discard the fanny pack? There's no reason to.

On the other hand, if someone threw away their phone, they might as throw away their fanny pack too, since they no longer need it...

 

[LozDa]

They said the few strands of hair were caught in the earbuds. Which is exactly what long hair does, it gets caught in earbuds whether you use your phone to listen to music on the train to work or are kidnapped.

Why do we assume the phone was removed from its holder during an abduction? I don't think we have seen anything that proves any of that happened.
Assuming she was abducted, there are very easy explanations as to why the phone could have ended up on the ground where it did:
1. She stopped to take a breather and check her phone, which is when she was grabbed. She certainly tries to fight back and doesn't care that her phone (with the earbuds) falls on the ground.
2. (This theory has been mentioned here several times before) She had been grabbed somewhere completely different, and her phone and earbuds (and possibly phone holder, which we have no idea if that's what it is on the video at all) were dropped at that spot either randomly, or on purpose to mislead LE.

As for the language used during the interviews: desperation (for the best possible reasons) brings out very different reactions in different people. Just because I think I would have reacted in a different way, or even if someone who have had a person go missing in their life did or didn't react in a different way, that really doesn't mean anything.
Think of another desperate and strong emotional process, which is something we all must have experienced and seen others experience: mourning. Is there a "right way" to mourn? Is someone that throws themselves on top of the coffin screaming necessarily in a greater pain than another, sitting quietly with a single tear in their eyes? They could be, or they could not be. We just don't know.
IMHO, from what's been released, there's been nothing that someone who's 100% innocent and 100% desperate couldn't have said. Maybe you think you wouldn't have. Maybe I think I wouldn't have. The one thing we definitely have in common is that neither of us is a desperate family member trying to find Sherri.

MOO

I understand all of this. And I hope that everything you're saying is correct and that Sherri will be found safe and well.

The language of the interview bothers me. If it doesn't bother you, great. However, saying that the language used doesn't really mean anything is totally incorrect. That's why there are members of LE and beyond that specialise in speech and semantics. It's important.

Could you link to where they say the strands of hair were caught in the ear buds? I've not seen that.

As for the "very easy explanations as to why the phone could have ended up on the ground where it did", I'm just going to have to disagree with you here. If it were that easy, we wouldn't be discussing it, or presenting multiple theories.

I have reservations and this forum is a place to discuss them. I'm not saying that it is what has happened or that I'm right in my opinions. I'm simply expressing things that stand out to me.

 

[katydid23]

The phone could have been removed after the abduction, and discarded by the abductor while getting the heck out of there.

The bigger question is: why would the abductor discard the fanny pack? There's no reason to.

On the other hand, if someone threw away their phone, they might as throw away their fanny pack too, since they no longer need it...

I think the abductor would want to discard the fanny pack. The fewer things he has of hers in his possession, the better, in case he is pulled over or interviewed.