Found Alive CA - Sherri Papini, 34, Redding, 2 November 2016 - #14

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  • #521
Is there a LE team that is better equipped to handle this case? On crime shows, this would be kicked upstairs, or some task force or the FBI would show up. Maybe I watch too much television.

The FBI has been involved since at least Nov 15: https://kobi5.com/news/fbi-now-involved-in-search-for-missing-redding-mother-40182/

And KP thanked them in his fist statement after she was found: http://abcnews.go.com/US/gma-exclusive-husband-sherri-papini-speaks-familys-ordeal/story?id=43840659
 
  • #522
If he called the Sheriff's office and was told this by someone who gave him her first name, Kelly, I think he should be able to report that.

If Kelly was supposedly the "information officer" he asked for and wouldn't give her last name, she's not. Their names are known and they speak officially.
 
  • #523
Has it been mentioned that in the 20/20 interview that SP said they drove over 2 1/2 hours the first day she was abducted?
 
  • #524
What does cross racial identification mean? I've never heard the term.

Identifying distinguishing characteristics in races other than your own.
 
  • #525
Yup - there's a sign for the exit. (I went to google street view and made sure).
Not sure if this will work right or not:
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.726...4!1sYGYPnV0kcj2_KypAADTuFw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Here's a cropped screen shot:

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Thanks. There's a lot of speeders and truck traffic though there. Maybe that's why I don't remember the sign. That truck almost blocked the Google view camera.
 
  • #526
Think Sherri Papini kidnapping story doesn’t add up? Experts say keep an open mind

Experts say the skeptical response isn’t so surprising given that the details sheriff’s investigators and family members so far have relayed about Papini’s account don’t fit patterns typical for kidnapping scenarios. But they also caution that while many elements of Papini’s story are admittedly odd, that doesn’t mean detectives – or the public – should assume it doesn’t hold up.

“I’ve had some pretty bizarre but righteous cases, where people look at it and say, ‘That didn’t happen.’ Well, it did,” said Mary Ellen O’Toole, a former FBI agent who specialized in criminal profiling.

Read more: http://www.kansas.com/news/nation-world/article118626368.html


 
  • #527
Here's the first 6 minutes of the show

[video=youtube;UJfolXYt40g]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJfolXYt40g[/video]
 
  • #528
Another 8 minutes

[video=youtube;XHrctetjw2g]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHrctetjw2g[/video]
 
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  • #530
Does anyone else find it strange that she was a stay-at-home mom, but her kids went to daycare? Her husband said she never picked the kids up from daycare the day she disappeared. Isn't the point of a stay-at-home mom so your kids don't go to daycare? That was strange to me.

I guess the kids could go to daycare for a day or two to get socialized with other children...

thoughts?

I was a SAHM and my kids went to community preschool program a few days a week. They did it to learn to go to go to school, to socialize with other kids, and to keep their mom from going :nuts:
 
  • #531
Looks like California only restricts window tint on the front windscreen and the front driver side and front passenger side windows, 70% opacity? Which means on an SUV, assuming a 4 door SUV, you could have black-out tint on the back window, rear driver and passenger windows, and if there are additional side rear windows:

As a California resident, the most important thing you need to know when it comes to automotive window tinting laws is that your front two windows (driver and passenger side) cannot be tinted with any film darker than 70%. This means that the film on the front two windows must allow 70% or more light to pass through. However, you can go as dark as you’d like on all rear side and back windows to achieve the look you’re going for.
 
  • #532
Has it been mentioned that in the 20/20 interview that SP said they drove over 2 1/2 hours the first day she was abducted?
Yes they mentioned that

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  • #533
Are there any signs on I-5 saying your at the town of Yolo? I don't remember. I may have to take a drive up there this weekend.

Do you mean at county rd 17? I have been trying to see via the map someone posted a bit ago, also you can look at cal trans maps. I was looking for 2 reasons, one of them is to see what road sign SP saw to realize she was on the 5 south of Mt. Shasta.
There are definitely county markers saying "Yolo County". Every time we pass them on a road trip we all scream "yolo"
 
  • #534
If they pulled over, wearing sunglasses and ball caps, and then one of them suddenly grabbed her, she would have had no time to get a clear look at their faces. It just takes a split second to grab a victim.

While it sounds to me like Keith said he thought the two women might have asked for help/directions/whatever, vs. explicitly stating that's what Sherri says happened (please do correct me if I'm wrong, this is my understanding based on the play-by-play posts on here,) if that is indeed what happened, I could imagine one woman hiding in the backseat (behind the legally tinted windows,) the other woman in the driver's seat (which is potentially on the opposite side from where Sherri would have been, further making it hard to identify her behind sunglasses/a baseball hat, neither of which is out of place) rolls down the passenger side window asking something, making Sherri move closer, at which point the the one in the backseat (so far invisible to Sherri) draws out a gun, forcing Sherri to get in.
This all could happen within a matter of 10-15 seconds.
Just one possible scenario, no idea what actually happened.

JMO
 
  • #535
I'd like to know how long the ride was before she was dropped off too. IIRC, she was 150 miles from home where they found her.

Yolo, CA is where they found her. That's the red mark in the middle. Redding is up at the top of the screen. This is a 150 mile circumference from where she was dropped off near the exit in Yolo.
 
  • #536
If Kelly was supposedly the "information officer" he asked for and wouldn't give her last name, she's not. Their names are known and they speak officially.

Yes, this is a good point.

I would still expect him to report something he was told by someone at the Sheriff's office when he called there. I worked for a political consultant, and we were often called by reporters. Anything we said was fair game for reporters, unless we asked to go off the record and the reporter agreed. I can imagine being called an anonymous spokesperson if I asked to remain anonymous and the reporter agreed I could be.
 
  • #537
people of one race trying to identify people of another. Or, in this case, different ethnicities.

So since I'm a white guy I can't tell if a person is Hispanic or not. Okay. I guess that means I can't be prejudiced against Hispanics because I can't identify them.

That doesn't sound right. I'm confused. JMO
 
  • #538
Wonder if the reporter talked to someone he thought was a spokesperson?

That, or he was close to a deadline and needed a juicy story, so he made up a fictitious spokeswoman named Kelly and quoted her. It wouldn't be the first time a reporter has fabricated a story. It happens pretty regularly.
 
  • #539
While it sounds to me like Keith said he thought the two women might have asked for help/directions/whatever, vs. explicitly stating that's what Sherri says happened (please do correct me if I'm wrong, this is my understanding based on the play-by-play posts on here,) if that is indeed what happened, I could imagine one woman hiding in the backseat (behind the legally tinted windows,) the other woman in the driver's seat (which is potentially on the opposite side from where Sherri would have been, further making it hard to identify her behind sunglasses/a baseball hat, neither of which is out of place) rolls down the passenger side window asking something, making Sherri move closer, at which point the the one in the backseat (so far invisible to Sherri) draws out a gun, forcing Sherri to get in.
This all could happen within a matter of 10-15 seconds.
Just one possible scenario, no idea what actually happened.

JMO

Then how did the phone get on the ground neatly?
 
  • #540
Here's a closer look of the sign showing Yolo coming up (off I5)

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