Found Alive CA - Sherri Papini, 34, Redding, 2 November 2016 - #18

[TexMex]

Do you know who did say it?

Her husband. Her friends. Her family. All reported no trouble at home. All said no way Sherri would just take off and leave her two small kids.
Is there evidence of marriage trouble? Money trouble? Affairs?
IMO all of these were investigated by LE. KP was cleared.

 

[bluesneakers]

My first thought (and was in this case) was that it was another solitary female jogger that got murdered. Female joggers who go missing lately have turned up dead.

I thought about that too. There have been four recently, iirc. I know at least one* was taken and her body found somewhere else. It wasn't my immediate thought but I did think about those cases and considered the possibility.

My first thought was Jennifer Huston.

*Maybe two - one in Michigan and one in Queens.

 

[missgulfsouth]

Not if she is still afraid and is keeping her word to her abductor(s), at least for now, to change the details or else risk further harm. That would involve misleading LE.


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In that case, I hope it was personal and targeted. Otherwise, they are free and others are at risk.

 

[TexMex]

Yes, but Secret Witness is not the same as what was offered in this case:

http://www.secretwitness.com/rewards.php

Secret Witness did offer a reward as early as Nov 4

Secret Witness of Shasta County is also offering a $10,000 reward for anyone with information about Papini that would lead to an arrest or conviction behind her disappearance.

 

[northXnorthwest1]

I thought about that too. There have been four recently, iirc. I know at least one* was taken and her body found somewhere else. It wasn't my immediate thought but I did think about those cases and considered the possibility.

My first thought was Jennifer Huston.

*Maybe two - one in Michigan and one in Queens.

Maybe I misunderstand the point you're making but if your list is all female joggers, Huston was not jogging. She drove her SUV to a property and then hung herself.


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[Ontario Mom]

Just some general thoughts...

CG's (and his alleged AD) seem to be a massive red herring in this case. Either that, or a massive clue. It's kind of impossible to really pin that down right now. Either way, CG is an established liar. He admitted to this after the MSM (and SM) was all over him. Dude was way in over his head. Or... thought he was smarter than everyone else (including the local LE handling the investigation and others).

As for SP's "brand" being a message and not a symbol, (as per the SCSO) that tells me, it's a word or a phrase. It doesn't mean SP or KP or anyone else knows what it signifies. They might, or they might not. I hope SP can consult with a cosmetic surgeon at some point and have it removed for no other reason than her peace of mind, and KP's too.

SP may or she may not know why, she was released. It's entirely possible they told her zip.

It's almost impossible, for people (female Hispanics or not) to have handled SP's restraints & the bag over her head (and SP's physical body itself), without their DNA being transferred to those items in some way. Unless they used gloves - but interestingly enough, gloves have never been mentioned. For as smart as criminals think they are, most of them haven't studied the latest tools crime labs have at their disposal to extract DNA. It's not tv crime stuff. We all read about this time and time again in each new case we follow. These tech strategies are being used and tested all the time and the info grows by leaps and bounds almost every week. I believe once the lab comes back with DNA results, IF there are any, this is when the SCSO will hold their next presser.

Has SP done the same thing AH did after NK released her? Certainly possible. It wouldn't be the first time and I don't think anyone would fault her for it. Well, some might, but some people are just kind of... jerks. I know I wouldn't. I have 7 kids and if I went through what she did and my kids were threatened, I'd lie the same way AH did. No two ways about it However, if lab tests come back and contradict what's she's said, that will be handled (I suspect most delicately) between her and the LE agencies handling this investigation.

Just some random thoughts. FWIW.

 

[soanyway]

I'm not sure you can compare Atlanta to a city such as Redding that just happens to be located in the #1 state for human trafficking. JMO

#1 California

#1 in the top 5 human trafficking states California doubles that of Texas. Being close to the border like Texas makes it easy to smuggle people in and out of the country. The presence of transnational gangs in these areas make this crime more organized.

http://www.humanracetohumanrights.com/2015/12/31/top-5-human-trafficking-states/

For curiosity's sake, I googled kidnap/ransom negotiators in Atlanta, population around 460,000 (not counting suburbs). I came up with less than a handful companies, at least one of which was a branch of an international parent corporation. An independent negotiator being based on Redding, population ~90,000, is quite fortuitous.

 

[Mom24]

Back after a loooong hiatus (needed a break after the AH case) and I've been busy reading what's been posted here. I don't believe this was a sex traffic abduction. It occurs to me that the police sad SP was badly beaten. That's a strong statement from LE. They don't exaggerate situations, so for them to say badly beaten we know it's bad. Some say she was beaten nearly beyond recognition. In that she was beaten so badly, I believe she was dumped on the side of the road and left to die. I don't believe her captor(s) released her, I believe they dumped her. In regards to the branding thing, I think what LE is saying is that it's a brand but not in any distinct form. I think it's interesting that they dumped her body on Thanksgiving morning and I think we'll find there was a reason for that date. I also think this was well planned and the two women may have done this before. They grabbed her and knew to keep their vehicle away from any cameras, means they had staked the area out. That they didn't slip and use any names means they must have had some practice with this. It's unusual for two people talking to not refer to each other by some kind of name. They also took her some distance away, probably because they had something set up to receive SP in. SP had bruises in different stages of healing which tells us they repeatedly beat her. That sounds like gang activity, especially in that there was an older woman and a younger woman. I don't believe they thought she would survive and although it's hard to think about, I believe she was used as a something to beat against for three weeks and when they figured she was nearly dead they dumped her.

 

[robthomaseyes]

A young mother isn't home when her husband arrives home. She's not contacted any family that she's going anywhere. She has not picked up her children from day care. Her phone is found beside the road.
If it were my wife, my daughter, my friend....I'd think she'd been abducted too.

She couldn't have been "missing" for more than a couple of hours, tops. Cops won't even file a missing person's report until 24 hours b/c most of the time, people are found, and they weren't abducted. They take off for a few hours, lose track of time, whatever. But, happily, the vast majority of people ARE found.

My first thoughts when she was missing for a few days already were not that someone had taken her for ransom, or to hold her in a dungeon torturing her, but that the most common tragedy had befallen her - abducted, raped, murdered, and dumped in a shallow grave. Sad, but it's all too common.

Never did I once leap to the idea that some shady characters were hiding her away, branding her and torturing her and were going to let her go in a few weeks. Yet this "anonymous donor" leapt to that? Did he leap to that conclusion with Stacy Peterson, Stacey Smart, or any of the thousands of other people who go missing each year? Why only SP?

 

[bluesneakers]

Maybe I misunderstand the point you're making but if your list is all female joggers, Huston was not jogging. She drove her SUV to a property and then hung herself.


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Jennifer Huston did not disappear while jogging.

 

[bluesneakers]

I'm not sure you compare Atlanta to a city such as Redding that just happens to be located in the #1 state for human trafficking. JMO


http://www.humanracetohumanrights.com/2015/12/31/top-5-human-trafficking-states/[/FONT][/COLOR]

Do you know the number of kidnap negotiators located in Redding?

 

[vlpate]

I never have and I feel it sets an extremely dangerous precedent.

I think the secret witness program is like crime stoppers ... if you are familiar

 

[MzOpinion8d]

Maybe I misunderstand the point you're making but if your list is all female joggers, Huston was not jogging. She drove her SUV to a property and then hung herself.


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I think Bluesneakers meant his/her first thought was a suicide rather than abducted jogger.

 

[soanyway]

Just wanted to be sure I hadn't missed it anywhere. But if the footage were from a larger intersection (one that she may not have even jogged to), I can see where the path of the vehicles may have changed prior to reaching her. If the perps had taken back roads, they may have possibly avoided cameras. It would be more logical to me if it was a neighbor's surveillance camera that picked up vehicles in the area that morning. JMO But I haven't ruled out the use of a stun gun (taser) that could've attributed to some memory loss or fogginess at the time of the abduction.

Only LE knows the answer to that question. But they showed her all vehicles on the footage and she said none of them were THE vehicle.

 

[vlpate]

Back after a loooong hiatus (needed a break after the AH case) and I've been busy reading what's been posted here. I don't believe this was a sex traffic abduction. It occurs to me that the police sad SP was badly beaten. That's a strong statement from LE. They don't exaggerate situations, so for them to say badly beaten we know it's bad. Some say she was beaten nearly beyond recognition. In that she was beaten so badly, I believe she was dumped on the side of the road and left to die. I don't believe her captor(s) released her, I believe they dumped her. In regards to the branding thing, I think what LE is saying is that it's a brand but not in any distinct form. I think it's interesting that they dumped her body on Thanksgiving morning and I think we'll find there was a reason for that date. I also think this was well planned and the two women may have done this before. They grabbed her and knew to keep their vehicle away from any cameras, means they had staked the area out. That they didn't slip and use any names means they must have had some practice with this. It's unusual for two people talking to not refer to each other by some kind of name. They also took her some distance away, probably because they had something set up to receive SP in. SP had bruises in different stages of healing which tells us they repeatedly beat her. That sounds like gang activity, especially in that there was an older woman and a younger woman. I don't believe they thought she would survive and although it's hard to think about, I believe she was used as a something to beat against for three weeks and when they figured she was nearly dead they dumped her.

She was treated for minor injuries and released.

 

[northXnorthwest1]

Jennifer Huston did not disappear while jogging.

I know - that's what I said.


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[MzOpinion8d]

This thread is a wealth of ideas for wanna be fiction writers...but I don't think the truth is anything like what is being speculated here. I'm not sure if we'll ever know the truth.

 

[robthomaseyes]

For curiosity's sake, I googled kidnap/ransom negotiators in Atlanta, population around 460,000 (not counting suburbs). I came up with less than a handful companies, at least one of which was a branch of an international parent corporation. An independent negotiator being based on Redding, population ~90,000, is quite fortuitous.

Thanks.That's what I thought...

 

[robthomaseyes]

There are signs that are consistent with ST. There are some that are not. It hasn't been ruled out. The VI said their theory was some sort of ST scenario and not a revenge one.
SP, KP, their contacts, bank records, phone records, friends, family and coworkers were investigated. KP passed a polygraph. There was no evidence of marriage trouble, affairs, financial issues or Sherri wanting a "vacation".
She was found in chains..malnourished and battered.
Who do you, if you'd like to share, think took this beautiful young woman and did these horrible things to her?

No,you misunderstand. How did this "anonymous donor" know BEFORE SP was found and told what happened? How did heknow in that first couple of days she was kidnapped and being held by someone?

It's extremely rare that a suburban mom goes missing and it turns out like this case did. There are other, more common reasons suburban wives/mothers go missing. Either they took off (marital problems, nervous breakdown/mental problems, affairs, or they are raped and killed and their bodies buried somewhere).

In my 20s, my younger sister went missing. My family and I didn't know she was missing until day 3, when her idiot of a husband finally called us (she lives 2000 miles away from us and we spoke once a week: this was in the days before iphones, texting and social media, so we wouldn't have known yet something was wrong). Our first thought NEVER would have been that she was kidnapped and being held for ransom, or for sex trafficking, or for torture, or to be held as a sex slave for a newly released prisoner. No. Sickening as it is to remember, our FEAR was that she'd met a fate like so many other young women meet - that she was followed home, raped, and killed). Our HOPE at that point was that it was something like she was angry at her husband and took off to punish him, or even that she was off with another guy. The reality turned out to be anger at her husband (we found out he'd hit her - for the first AND last time, thankfully - and she had taken off).

Had a guy called me and said he was a hostage negotiator and told me that there was an anonymous donor who thinks she was taken and being held, and he was going to put up money to get her back, I'd have been suspicious as all hell, slammed down the phone, and reported him to the police.

 

[missgulfsouth]

This thread is a wealth of ideas for wanna be fiction writers...but I don't think the truth is anything like what is being speculated here. I'm not sure if we'll ever know the truth.

What is your theory?