Found Alive CA - Sherri Papini, 34, Redding, 2 November 2016 - #7

[SolwayFirth]

If this works and the disappearance was never a hoax, then I respectfully retire from armchair sleuthing.

You and me both, and I just got started.

 

[rosesfromangels]

I gather Tulip, that your prudent approach was followed with little or no result.
The Sherriff does not seem convinced Sherri has been abducted, whereas her family vehemently believes so. If I felt that way, I'd do whatever it took to get my loved one home. And that's what they are doing.

Reminds me of so many many years ago when EDS employees were being held hostage and Perot didn't wait for anything. He sent a crew in to rescue them, and I'm sure their families were glad he did. I think there was a book authored on this, "on wings of an eagle" or some such title.

This type of approach meets my approval.

 

[marinthinker]

I'm about to take a break from this discussion but wanted to let you know what's on my mind before I go.

We don't know very much about SP from her family. The questions I'd like to ask are: Were the Christmas decorations in the early videos in her home? Did she always decorate for Christmas on November 1st, the day after Halloween? When I saw the decorations in the early videos I thought this is a person who left voluntarily and doesn't plan to be home to decorate for Christmas. But, as many sleuths pointed out, maybe it wasn't her home, and maybe this is the way she does it every year. I just don't know.

If she did leave voluntarily, here are some possible options:

Voluntarily Missing - Suicide
Voluntarily Missing - Needed to Take a Break / Trial Separation
Voluntarily Missing - Starting or Re-starting a New Chapter in her Life

Here's a link to the Los Angeles Police Department Adult Missing Persons Unit.
http://www.lapdonline.org/lapd_adult_missing_persons_unit

"Approximately 70% of all reported missing persons are found or voluntarily return within 48 to 72 hours. Not all adult missing persons are the victims of kidnapping, murders, or some other criminal act."

"Being a “voluntary” missing person is not a crime. Any adult person can simply walk away, and choose to ignore family, friends, associates and employers. Since this type of behavior is not “criminal”, law enforcement is limited on how they conduct these types of investigations. When facts and circumstances indicate a strong possibility of “foul-play”, or the disappearance is the result of a criminal act, the investigation will continue along such a course."​

Regarding the phone, it's possible that after being picked up in a vehicle, she realized she had the phone and "tossed" it, knowing it could be tracked.

Take care, and Happy Thanksgiving to all who celebrate the Holiday.

 

[broadviewren]

I can't share the pictures I mentioned earlier, just got a response from Moderators: is a no go.

OTOH, regarding Pinterest Profile and boards....

First thing I noticed on SP Pinterest Boards two weeks ago:
- no religious pins
- no political views pins
- few quotes pins
...

There are actually quite a few quotes pins. They are on her "Just for Me" and "Cultural Differences" boards. There are political ones on the "Cultural Differences" board, too.

ETA: Oops, sorry, I replied before I saw that others had posted this information as well.

I can't find the post now, but someone mentioned that her Amazon wish list has been removed. But I just checked and it's still there; she has several wish lists, mostly focusing on gift ideas for the kids, but some for her home, too. Not much of a personal wish list, though.

 

[Tuliptiptoe]

I gather Tulip, that your prudent approach was followed with little or no result.
The Sherriff does not seem convinced Sherri has been abducted, whereas her family vehemently believes so. If I felt that way, I'd do whatever it took to get my loved one home. And that's what they are doing.

Reminds me of so many many years ago when EDS employees were being held hostage and Perot didn't wait for anything. He sent a crew in to rescue them, and I'm sure their families were glad he did. I think there was a book authored on this, "on wings of an eagle" or some such title.

This type of approach meets my approval.

Not followed at all. Keith has not been on TV in weeks, the search stopped way to soon with no water searches, and almost zero information about Sherri has been released.

The ransom thing is obviously not working judging by the ever changing rules and deadlines (not to mention "threats" from LE that don't appreciate it). Unless their intent is to distract, in which case, bravo.



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[sofrep811]

The entire ransom aspect of the case is absurd.

 

[cowboy001]

Not that it's up to me, but I'd say use some of the money raised to search the lake. While I truly hope she is still alive; it seems like an obvious place to look given the close proximity to where she was last seen.

The lake is too big would take forever.

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[glassheater]

I gather Tulip, that your prudent approach was followed with little or no result.
The Sherriff does not seem convinced Sherri has been abducted, whereas her family vehemently believes so. If I felt that way, I'd do whatever it took to get my loved one home. And that's what they are doing.

Reminds me of so many many years ago when EDS employees were being held hostage and Perot didn't wait for anything. He sent a crew in to rescue them, and I'm sure their families were glad he did. I think there was a book authored on this, "on wings of an eagle" or some such title.

This type of approach meets my approval.

the family insists that Sherri not her family knows the abductor. Before 5a.m. Today, the abductor was promised immunity. Let's say he took the money and Sherri comes home. WONDERFUL. BUT, then in time, we maybe following another case on websleuths because this guy was set free.

Also, any useful tips may be going to CG now instead of LE.

 

[creepcrusher]

http://www.actionnewsnow.com/news/a...rri-papini-offers-to-anyone-with-information/

Why are they so confident she is still alive? What do they know that we don't? They say they have little evidence, but it seems the evidence they do have makes them certain this is the case.


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[Sillybilly]

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[TTF14]

Does Sherri have any friends? I'm really surprised that none have spoken up saying "I had plans with her to get our kids together to play," or "we walk on Tuesdays together and she said she was looking forward to it," or "the text she sent me this morning was very silly so I really doubt she walked away...she seemed happy."

My point is, if I went missing, I'd have friends coming out of the woodwork saying they had just talked to me, or made plans with me, or knew LOTS about my personal life and frame of mind. I find this so odd!!

 

[skibaboo]

http://www.actionnewsnow.com/news/a...rri-papini-offers-to-anyone-with-information/

Why are they so confident she is still alive? What do they know that we don't? They say they have little evidence, but it seems the evidence they do have makes them certain this is the case.


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Ok, now I'm confused.

Taken from your link

A new video has been released from a private group working with the family of missing Shasta woman Sherri Papini.

Now the group has upped the offer to anyone with information leading to the return of Sherri Papini to $100,000 for information leading to the safe return of Papini.

Last week, the same group offered a $50,000 to the alleged kidnappers for returning Sherri Papini to the group, also with no questions asked. The group set a deadline of 115 hours, which came and passed, so the group increased the reward and is now offering it to anyone.

1, Who exactly is this 'Group' CG and the anonymous party?

CG says in the video the 50k ransom amount has been added to the 50k reward amount to make 100k. Does that mean the same 'Group' was responsible for providing the original 50k reward? I thought I saw 10k was raised by family and 40k was an anonymous donation. Is it the same anonymous person? (not trying to sleuth them just trying to get a clearer understanding)

2. Which family are they working with? 6 days ago Sherris sister said in an article she had no idea who they were and had no knowledge of it

Papini’s sister, Sheila Koester, said she had no knowledge about the letter and that the Papini family members had no association with the website.

“I have no idea. It’s nothing that I knew of,” she said. http://www.redding.com/news/local/Papini-Update-Ransom-negotiator-offers-reward-for-missing-woman-401771575.html

Has something changed or are the family split? SP's side not involved but KP's side are??

 

[Knox]

http://www.actionnewsnow.com/news/a...rri-papini-offers-to-anyone-with-information/

Why are they so confident she is still alive? What do they know that we don't? They say they have little evidence, but it seems the evidence they do have makes them certain this is the case.


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It's almost as if "the group working for the family" is posting to someone very specific. Who is this drug addicted, convicted felon with a warrant? And "more money than you could spend"?

IMO, those closest to Sherri know (think they know) who took her.

 

[AceDetective]

Okay, here's a potential red flag....

Let me first say I believe this is most likely an abduction, but consider suicide to be a possibility.

Anyway....

I know some people who get really, really stressed out at Christmas time. The biggest stressors are picking the perfect gifts, and family functions, for which new clothing must be worn (and shopped for). (Many people have a strange thing about never wearing the same outfit to a function twice. I did so one year, and it was pointed out in the family photos, since last year's photo was on the parents' mantle...) Decorating is another stress item. Possibly hosting a family dinner would be another big stressor.

When Keith said "she was wrapping her presents," I have always taken that to mean Christmas presents. It was Nov. 2 and Halloween was over. A 'supermom' is going to be right on the Christmas gifts.

And, of course, it appears she left while wrapping the presents. One was "partially wrapped," and apparently left out where Keith could see it. That has always been a red flag for me, but this whole Christmas stress idea makes it even more so.

 

[bbyjp]

I hate to say I'm not surprised they've given up on ground searches. It wasn't very long before they gave up looking for poor, little Ember Graham. Even though they found her pacifier on the side of the road. That case still breaks my heart.

 

[kiwi50]

Does Sherri have any friends? I'm really surprised that none have spoken up saying "I had plans with her to get our kids together to play," or "we walk on Tuesdays together and she said she was looking forward to it," or "the text she sent me this morning was very silly so I really doubt she walked away...she seemed happy."

My point is, if I went missing, I'd have friends coming out of the woodwork saying they had just talked to me, or made plans with me, or knew LOTS about my personal life and frame of mind. I find this so odd!!

Yes I find it odd too, there seems no sense of urgency or desperation from anyone either.

 

[creepcrusher]

Not sure if anyone has mentioned this. I took a little break and wanted to check in to see if there's been any changes.

Here is a thought I've been having. Could Sherri have possibly met someone online, and began an emotional relationship with them?

A predator could've seen her pictures on her posh account and started sending her messages? Someone who was smart enough to trick her into trusting him? I could see how easily this could happen- how a woman/man could play into the fantasy, enjoying the attention.

When LE had said they were taking this investigation out of state, it made me wonder if they had found something on her computer, leading them to believe this is the case.

IF it is, maybe the perp used a fake name, fake pictures etc. maybe this is why LE doesn't know how to classify the case. Maybe this is why the family believes she was abducted.

Could this be why they think Sherri "knows" who took her?

Do they think she was tricked? Maybe they planned to meet up, but there was no evidence that she had planned to leave with him?

Just a theory....


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[AceDetective]

[...]
When LE had said they were taking this investigation out of state, it made me wonder if they had found something on her computer, leading them to believe this is the case.
[...]

I took it to mean they were checking out former acquaintances who live out of state.

 

[creepcrusher]

Ok, now I'm confused.

Taken from your link



1, Who exactly is this 'Group' CG and the anonymous party?

CG says in the video the 50k ransom amount has been added to the 50k reward amount to make 100k. Does that mean the same 'Group' was responsible for providing the original 50k reward? I thought I saw 10k was raised by family and 40k was an anonymous donation. Is it the same anonymous person? (not trying to sleuth them just trying to get a clearer understanding)

2. Which family are they working with? 6 days ago Sherris sister said in an article she had no idea who they were and had no knowledge of it

Papini’s sister, Sheila Koester, said she had no knowledge about the letter and that the Papini family members had no association with the website.

“I have no idea. It’s nothing that I knew of,” she said. http://www.redding.com/news/local/Papini-Update-Ransom-negotiator-offers-reward-for-missing-woman-401771575.html

Has something changed or are the family split? SP's side not involved but KP's side are??

If you follow interviews/posts you'll see that Sheila is very much on KP's side. I'm not sure about the parents.


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