Deceased/Not Found CA - Sierra LaMar, 15, Morgan Hill, 16 March 2012 #13 *A. Garcia-Torres guilty*

[Tuba]

There is also open land at the end of Fisher, if he turned left off Santa Teresa. It seems that Fisher would be a better choice if he had decided to go west, better than Bailey that is. Bailey would be better if he chose to go east. There is open land at the end of these roads. It may help to study what moves he probably made around that dirt road and metal shed. (Fisher-Laguna & Sta. Teresa)

 

[iClone]

Back from the maps, if the driver stayed on Santa Teresa-Hale, traveling NNW, he would have come into a population center seen on the map surrounding Santa Teresa Golf Course. Although he discarded the books & bag at Fisher-Laguna, that road does not cross 101 which is running parallel to the east. Bailey does and was the next big intersection. If he turned left on Bailey, he would have passed the IBM plant but taking a right on Bailey would lead to vast stretches of unimproved land. The ejected cellphone and then the bag are in sequence for him to have reached Bailey as it intersects Sta. Teresa. Since the sheriffs have concluded that he is very familiar with the area, would the IBM center have deterred him from going toward Calero? He does seem to have avoided traffic and dense population.

new here (and to forums). i have a teen who goes to Sobrato HS but did NOT know Sierra. i drive in a carpool rotation (one week 'mornings', next week 'afternoons', and the following week 'off') from South San Jose to Morgan Hill. unfortunately, the day SL disappeared (3/16) was my week off from driving. when i drive mornings, i go down Santa Teresa/Hale to school - the speed limit is 45, but everyone drives 55. seeing a parked car down a side street happens occasionally, but at that speed there isn't much time to stare. on my way home, i would usually take Dougherty - the speed limit is also 45, but there are never cars behind me, so i'm able to go 40. i go this way by choice, partly because i have radiator issues; i also enjoy the scenery. so Dougherty turns into Scheller at a sharp left just past SL's court. her phone was found at the corner of Scheller. her purse was found on Laguna. there is a street in between these two streets - Richmond. on this street is an old deserted golf driving range. it makes sense to me that SL would have been taken there. these are the only streets on the right hand side heading north until you get to the streetlights at Bailey. so logically 1. get rid of phone, 2. commit crime, 3. stash purse/belongings. i remember hearing early on that their searches were being focused on Public property. so i keep wondereing if the driving range is somewhere they have been able to search well or at all, if maybe it is considered Private property.

 

[SmoothOperator]

Yes I understand that. I dont think she ever had posts that said "from iPhone" when she was at her home, so Im thinking she was using her friends device.

But it is still confusing.

If we assume she was "facetiming" herself with her phone and her friends phone/ipod, then why didn't she upload it to twitter from her phone?
Maybe the screen capture is only possible on an iPhone, or maybe easier? ((EDIT)) Actually this doesn't make sense. In the photo, you can see what appears to be an iPhone, or Ipod touch in her one hand. This means the screen capture was done using whatever was in her other hand. I would assume this would be her Android phone. Otherwise she was using TWO other devices that weren't her own. So, if she did the screen capture on her own phone, then why is it uploaded to twitter "from iPhone"??? This would mean she would have had to send it to her friends device and then upload it using her account on her friends device. ((Now im even more puzzled))

Also, maybe her home doesn't have Wi-Fi, so if she does have an Ipod touch still she cant use it while at home.
Furthermore, NONE of SL's tweets or pic uploads say "twitter for Android", but I have seen this in other people's posts. Is this just something to do with her individual model of phone, or the version of twitter she uses? Or is it something else.

There are a lot of possibilities here, but ive gotta feel that if she had access to another device, her friends or parents would have known, and LE would have looked into it.

I agree and have found in my reviewing Sierra's tweet history and the means of which each of those tweets were posted to twitter.. I too have seen that the iPhone posts seem to have been done at times when Sierra was NOT at home(as in all later evening/night tweets done throughout on weeknights/school nights are posted via web NOT via iPhone)..

In particular what I noticed about the specific tweet that has her "face timing herself" IMO tends to lend even more credence to the fact that Sierra is at her friend, CF's home and this is quite likely a friends iPhone that is seen.. March 10th is when the tweet with the photo was posted.. There is the fact that CF is seen on video stating that Sierra was in Fremont staying with CF(and friends) to celebrate CF's bday..
Also of note is the tweet sent from @cccairuh at 3/10@12:21 pm specifically indicating it is CF's bday.. Also same day 3/10 @cccairuh tweets that she enjoyed seeing the movie Project X.. Later that same night you see her tweeting a reply to her friend CN about a party that CN(not to be confused with CF as CN is a different friend obviously at a different location) is @1:01am 3/11..Later that same day she tweets about eating a cookie that was laying by CF's bed.. As well as CF tweeted(w/reply from @cccairuh) joking around about Sierra's having hogged up the whole bed..lol..

IMO those tweets alone strongly suggest that Sierra is staying at CF's.CF tweets via Iphone..Not to mention again the video that shows CF stating that Sierra had stayed the weekend with her in Fremont celebrating her birthday IMO pretty much validates that ASSUMPTION I made after reading the tweets.. That being that IMO Sierra was at CF's on 3/10 and that Sierra IMO was very likely using CF's iPhone IMO obviously playing around and "face timing" herself..jmo..

Also of note IMO is that if the time is taken to go through Sierra's tweets and see her means of posting to twitter it makes sense IMO and is actually pretty rare that Sierra is posting via iPhone as opposed to via web and via text..

For the most part the tweets that are labeled via iPhone it is due to the fact that she is RETWEETING.. When you RE-tweet it automatically posts via(whatever device the original tweet was).. So when Sierra RETWEETED a specific tweet it shows up as being posted via iPhone this does NOT indicate that Sierra posted the tweet via iPhone(on RETWEETS it does not show what device Sierra posted from) it only shows and indicates the device the original tweeter posted from.. Which much of the time you'll see that the original tweet was posted via iPhone..

So the RETWEETS arent indicative of Sierra posting from an iPhone and when those tweets are removed from the list of tweets Sierra posted from an iPhone.. What is left IMO are from her ipod(before stolen).. Her sister's iPod(that Sierra herself states that she was using).. And an occasion such as Sierra with CF(friends) where CF tweets via iPhone, Sierra is at CF's home, Sierra is at CF 's pictured with iPhone.. All IMO lending credence to it being CF's phone that Sierra was playing around with and "face timing herself"..

Of course as is always these are jmo, tho that are based upon what little info we have via @cccairuh's tweets, specifically the times and dates of those tweets, photos, and video statements from Sierra's close friends..


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[FlashingLights]

I think it's scary that she posted this tweet just a few days before she was kidnapped. http://twitter.com/#!/cccairuh/status/175756242646597634
You've probably talked about it already, but it's scary.
Some stalkers take stuff like that seriously...

I've been looking at her Twitter posts, and I know that the LE says that she was kidnapped, but considering her tweets and tumblr posts... I don't know.
I really hope she is ok though, and that they will find her.

I wonder why the kidnapper threw her bag out with the clothes, because there could be traces of his DNA on it, I just don't understand why he would risk that.

 

[nursebeeme]

welcome flashinglights :cheer:

 

[iClone]

I think it's scary that she posted this tweet just a few days before she was kidnapped. http://twitter.com/#!/cccairuh/status/175756242646597634
You've probably talked about it already, but it's scary.
Some stalkers take stuff like that seriously...

I've been looking at her Twitter posts, and I know that the LE says that she was kidnapped, but considering her tweets and tumblr posts... I don't know.
I really hope she is ok though, and that they will find her.

I wonder why the kidnapper threw her bag out with the clothes, because there could be traces of his DNA on it, I just don't understand why he would risk that.

i totally agree that it is very strange for her to tweet about wanting to be kidnapped, exactly 2 weeks before she goes missing. eerie actually.

 

[Tuba]

Super, iClone. That is great information and I am really taken by your possible itinerary for the kidnapper. It fits with the CBS video and our own still photos of the dirt dead end off Sta. Teresa, which would have been to the driver's right as he returned to the populated area of Morgan Hill. Another question for you. The investigators have been looking from the start for tire tracks. From your travels, is it possible that the kidnapper found a pull off on Sta. Teresa to avoid leaving tire tracks? The bag & books were located so fast that there should have been tire tracks. For all we know, there were! When I think about him making the rturn trip to Morgan Hill, I actually feel a gripping panic in my chest to think he could be so close still. Can you talk some more about the old Richmond driving range? Yes, the investigators would have been able to search there, even if the owner required a warrant. It would have been granted.

 

[iClone]

Super, iClone. That is great information and I am really taken by your possible itinerary for the kidnapper. It fits with the CBS video and our own still photos of the dirt dead end off Sta. Teresa, which would have been to the driver's right as he returned to the populated area of Morgan Hill. Another question for you. The investigators have been looking from the start for tire tracks. From your travels, is it possible that the kidnapper found a pull off on Sta. Teresa to avoid leaving tire tracks? The bag & books were located so fast that there should have been tire tracks. For all we know, there were! When I think about him making the rturn trip to Morgan Hill, I actually feel a gripping panic in my chest to think he could be so close still. Can you talk some more about the old Richmond driving range? Yes, the investigators would have been able to search there, even if the owner required a warrant. It would have been granted.

for some reason the driving range just makes sense to me. on google maps, the surrounding shrubbery is small. it's grown some since and the view from ST/Hale is not a very good one. you can see some grafitti on the side of a building there, but that's about it. it's an isolated area compared to the surrounding fields. these 3 streets (Laguna, Richmond, Scheller) would actually be on a driver's Left if going back to MH. as far as tracks, it's quite possible there Were some made, but given the weather and time frame, other vehicles (cars, trucks, tractors) could have gone over them. it seems very possible to me, that someone from MH would see SL every morning on their way to work, if they chose to drive that way, towards SJ or to 101. leaving earlier by a few minutes each day (and/or driving a little slower), he could have easily figured out where she lived. it all could have happened fast enough that he even made it to work on time.

 

[FlashingLights]

welcome flashinglights :cheer:

Thank you so much! I really admire what you websleuths do for other people

I wonder why no one heard or saw anything, since the bus stop was so close to her home. Something is shady about this case.

 

[Tuba]

Yes, the old Richmond driving range makes sense to me too. I could see from the maps that there was shrub or trees there and if they are taller now, a likely spot indeed. I know Richmond is on the right but if the shed is also, the sequence of Xs on the map is unbroken. Thank you! Some of the realty maps of Richmond Av look like it is not much used. Are those industrial metal bldgs. behind the range? All of these spots being so close to the home & the bus stop, make me realise the driver appreciated the dim light at that time of the morning.

 

[JDB]

Thank you so much! I really admire what you websleuths do for other people

I wonder why no one heard or saw anything, since the bus stop was so close to her home. Something is shady about this case.

That is becasue the LE believes she was taken from her driveway. Never made it to the bus stop.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

That is becasue the LE believes she was taken from her driveway. Never made it to the bus stop.

Did LE say that?

 

[iClone]

Yes, the old Richmond driving range makes sense to me too. I could see from the maps that there was shrub or trees there and if they are taller now, a likely spot indeed. I know Richmond is on the right but if the shed is also, the sequence of Xs on the map is unbroken. Thank you! Some of the realty maps of Richmond Av look like it is not much used. Are those industrial metal bldgs. behind the range? All of these spots being so close to the home & the bus stop, make me realise the driver appreciated the dim light at that time of the morning.

exactly! "...the sequence of Xs on the map is unbroken." well put and in my opinion, the 'neatly folded' clothing LE found leans towards someone being methodical.

i don't know what any of the industrial looking buildings are used for (some may belong to the driving range?).

 

[JDB]

Did LE say that?

That is where her scent ends. So how could she had made it any further IMHO

 

[Sjsleuth83]

I agree and have found....

Great post SmoothOperator, and I tend to agree with most of what you said.

Im still wondering about that pic of her "facetiming" herself. It appears to me that she's holding an iPhone/iPod in the one hand, and that the screen was captured with the other device.

But then the picture was uploaded "via iPhone". So it makes you wonder was the other device also an iPhone/iPod, or did she send it to her friend and then upload it?

Just something to think about. Im pretty sure the phone situation is nothing, but it is interesting how her posting methods differ in certain situations.

I dont have the time or means to really look further, but I think looking back, someone could determine if there were any days should might have skipped school or posted tweets from others' devices. I hope LE is using some of their resources to look at that angle.

 

[GrainneDhu]

Back from the maps, if the driver stayed on Santa Teresa-Hale, traveling NNW, he would have come into a population center seen on the map surrounding Santa Teresa Golf Course. Although he discarded the books & bag at Fisher-Laguna, that road does not cross 101 which is running parallel to the east. Bailey does and was the next big intersection. If he turned left on Bailey, he would have passed the IBM plant but taking a right on Bailey would lead to vast stretches of unimproved land. The ejected cellphone and then the bag are in sequence for him to have reached Bailey as it intersects Sta. Teresa. Since the sheriffs have concluded that he is very familiar with the area, would the IBM center have deterred him from going toward Calero? He does seem to have avoided traffic and dense population.

If s/he was on Bailey and turned left to go past IBM, would that have involved any stop signs or stoplights?

I may well be very wrong but I'd give priority to looking at routes where there were no or fewer stop signs and stoplights. While the vehicle is in motion, it's more difficult for a victim to escape and it's also less likely someone in another vehicle will have the time to really see into another vehicle.

Stop signs and stoplights are higher risk, from the perp's point of view.

I think. I could be wrong.

 

[GrainneDhu]

new here (and to forums). i have a teen who goes to Sobrato HS but did NOT know Sierra. i drive in a carpool rotation (one week 'mornings', next week 'afternoons', and the following week 'off') from South San Jose to Morgan Hill. unfortunately, the day SL disappeared (3/16) was my week off from driving. when i drive mornings, i go down Santa Teresa/Hale to school - the speed limit is 45, but everyone drives 55. seeing a parked car down a side street happens occasionally, but at that speed there isn't much time to stare. on my way home, i would usually take Dougherty - the speed limit is also 45, but there are never cars behind me, so i'm able to go 40. i go this way by choice, partly because i have radiator issues; i also enjoy the scenery. so Dougherty turns into Scheller at a sharp left just past SL's court. her phone was found at the corner of Scheller. her purse was found on Laguna. there is a street in between these two streets - Richmond. on this street is an old deserted golf driving range. it makes sense to me that SL would have been taken there. these are the only streets on the right hand side heading north until you get to the streetlights at Bailey. so logically 1. get rid of phone, 2. commit crime, 3. stash purse/belongings. i remember hearing early on that their searches were being focused on Public property. so i keep wondereing if the driving range is somewhere they have been able to search well or at all, if maybe it is considered Private property.

iClone, welcome to WS!

And what a spectacularly useful post! That's exactly the sort of perspective that really helps me imagine the area and what the perp's options may have been.

 

[SmoothOperator]

..Flashinglights...

 

[GrainneDhu]

Thank you so much! I really admire what you websleuths do for other people

I wonder why no one heard or saw anything, since the bus stop was so close to her home. Something is shady about this case.

Welcome to WS!

The bus stop is deceptive; it is actually 0.4 miles from her house, so it really wasn't all that close.

 

[iClone]

in researching "facetime" and facetiming yourself, i found an interesting video of someone doing it. so i think it's possible she was using an iPod/iPhone and her computer.
http://gizmodo.com/5669183/what-happens-when-you-facetimeyourself