Deceased/Not Found CA - Sierra LaMar, 15, Morgan Hill, 16 March 2012 #17 *A. Garcia-Torres guilty*

[SmoothOperator]

I have to respectfully disagree with you, this is just my opinion. I do believe that FS was technically speaking a "victim" of AGT. Even if there was only a two year age difference and it was consensual, in the state of California it is illegal for an 18 year old to have intercourse with a minor, a minor being defined as anyone under the age of 18. He was also charged with battery, so surely she was a victim of AGT in that situation too. With that said, regardless of what AGT has subjected her to, there is still absolutely no excuse for her behavior.

Yep. That is exactly why I stated that on many levels she IS NOT A VICTIM because I understandl the technicality of her being a "victim"..IMO on every other level other than technically I DO NOT BELIEVE HER TO BE A VICTIM..

We obviously disagree and that's perefectly OK

ETA: just to note there is no proof of any battry to be completely honest this case was never prosecuted and the only reason LE became aware that AGT was having sex withFS is due to the fact that he blurted it when arrested for totally unrelated offense(he stated his pregnant gf lived with him) ..so "technically" she never had the charges prosecuted which further calls into question her being a victim IMO..

Where I live the person over the age of 18 having consensual sex with a minor. .the person has to be 4 years older than the minor to qualify as statutory rape.. I fully realize tho that in CA this is different.

 

[epiphany]

Playing catchup again as I've been prowling the internet. Came up with these and sorry if they've already been posted.

Previous address:
Antolin Garcia Torres
14245 Llagas Road C
San Martin, CA 05046

Interesting reading on prior offense at above address:

http://losaltos.patch.com/articles/...ct-court-records-reveal-06670e88#pdf-10030186

There is NO battery charge related to his 15 yo pregnant GF. I am reading that correctly?

 

[Sleuths4Me]

His court appearance is tomorrow.

http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking...-lamar-suspect-face-murder-charge-first-court

o/t-Tomorrow is the last day of school for my kids. It seems odd since last year we had so many weather closings they went until the middle of June and even went on a Saturday for make up days. This year they are out before Memorial Day-we had a very mild winter.

Thanks, I must be a day ahead of myself...which means tomorrow isn't Friday :floorlaugh::maddening:

 

[mamamia54]

Do you have any idea if any sections of Anderson Lake have been searched? Around the boat ramp?

The reason I'm asking this, is because we have two points, one is North, Sierra's home, and we have one south which is Garcia-Torres home, and we have Sierra's high school between those two other focal points. Right now the searchers have been searching Uvas Reservoir, so why not go on the other side toward highway 101. It's a good bet they might find something there, who knows. JMO

 

[Lava]

I have to respectfully disagree with you, this is just my opinion. I do believe that FS was technically speaking a "victim" of AGT. Even if there was only a two year age difference and it was consensual, in the state of California it is illegal for an 18 year old to have intercourse with a minor, a minor being defined as anyone under the age of 18. He was also charged with battery, so surely she was a victim of AGT in that situation too. With that said, regardless of what AGT has subjected her to, there is still absolutely no excuse for her behavior.

I agree. When you are young you don't have the same cognitive ability as when you are 25+. This doesn't excuse behavior, but it does effect judgement making, realizing how what you do effects the future, and intelligence. Young girls are extremely easy to manipulate, alienate from their families, and control. I believe AGT started this behavior before he even met FS, and it has just grown to the point where he attacks and murders strangers.

 

[SmoothOperator]

No. In a lot (not all) of the Latino community, they have both parent's last names. Garcia is his father's name and Torres is his mother's maiden name. Mother's maiden is always the last name listed.

So you would be: Eileen Rodriguez-Gonzales
Rodriguez (your dad)-Gonzales (your mother).

Wow thanks for this info I did not know that but have noticed many names that appear to be of Hispanic origin do have a hyphenated, double last name.. now I know why

 

[KrazyKatLadi]

There is NO battery charge related to his 15 yo pregnant GF. I am reading that correctly?

You are correct.

 

[Pensfan]

IMO, mom isn't a victim either. She is an enabler. Her son hasn't had a real job since 2010 and he has been couch surfing in her tiny RV producing offspring and God only knows what else. Another other son is dead from pickling his internal organs with alcohol (alcohol-related heart attack is the minimizer's method of stating "alcohol induced cardiomyopathy"). Medicaid provides FREE inpatient and outpatient alcohol treatment. Planned Parenthood offices provide FREE birth control.

Pensfan
verified psychiatric mental health nurse

 

[mamamia54]

Wow thanks for this info I did not know that but have noticed many names that appear to be of Hispanic origin do have a hyphenated, double last name.. now I know why

Which is why in the presser yesterday, Smith called him Garcia, because that is his last name. I had wondered that myself.

 

[thevineyarder]

There is NO battery charge related to his 15 yo pregnant GF. I am reading that correctly?

You're correct, apparently it was a friend of his sister. I was under the impression it was related to his girlfriend.

 

[Whisperer]

Not sure if this has been posted yet or not, but here is another pic of AGT from his HS yearbook

http://www.morganhilltimes.com/garcia-torres/image_db2eda3e-a464-11e1-9a59-0019bb30f31a.html

He started at Live Oak but I thought he attended Central High (continuation school) in morgan hill.

 

[Tuba]

There was a battery charged along with stat. rape of a minor.

A.G.-T. gave himself away when he said to his mother, he never "made contact with her". Sounds like an unfulfilled ambition.

 

[shelarita]

The reason I'm asking this, is because we have two points, one is North, Sierra's home, and we have one south which is Garcia-Torres home, and we have Sierra's high school between those two other focal points. Right now the searchers have been searching Uvas Reservoir, so why not go on the other side toward highway 101. It's a good bet they might find something there, who knows. JMO

Yes, Anderson lake was extensively searched With divers, dogs and sonar. There are lots of remote areas surrounding Anderson that have road access and im unsure if those have been searched.

 

[leighmarker]

JMO. I don't think the Sierra's mom knew her as well as she thought. Those tweets were not from a naive little girl. I am not saying she asked to be abducted, but her mom stated there was no way she would get into a car w/someone like AGT and I am not so sure.
MOO----

 

[Hatfield]

OT + JMO
Regarding the "hoodie"......After taking a good look at the sketch + hoodie, the very first thing that comes to mind is "criminal" or "hoodlum". It is a stereotype that has somehow been ingrained into me from probably a lot of places like movies, crime news, etc.

But it dawned on me that I think it mostly got ingrained in me from the "UNABOMBER" case, where the sketch of the Unabomber was featured all over the news and made major national news at the time. Remember the sketch of the Unabomber with the hoodie and the dark sunglasses.

Maybe that is where the "hoodies" = "criminals" stereotype mainly got ingrained into all of us. Just a thought, as I was thinking back to the Trayvon Martin case, and all the discussions about hoodies.
Sorry, so off-topic, but wanted to share an "ah ha" moment I had.

 

[mamamia54]

Yes, Anderson lake was extensively searched With divers, dogs and sonar. There are lots of remote areas surrounding Anderson that have road access and im unsure if those have been searched.

If I might ask you another question, sorry hope I'm not bugging you. I read back through articles and video's yesterday to see if I was able to see where else had been searched early on, and I found one that said they were searching around Gilroy. There is also another missing girl from Gilroy. Where all did they search in that area, if you know? TIA

 

[bgmiller5]

Do you have any idea if any sections of Anderson Lake have been searched? Around the boat ramp?

I see nothing saying the actual lake has been searched, but on the 29th that area was searched....

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/south_bay&id=8599161

A dozen or so volunteers searched Anderson Lake County Park and several other park areas Wednesday looking for signs of the missing girl. You might not expect to find a live human being in some of the areas they looked, but the work is still critically important to Sierra's family.

 

[AzPistonsGirl]

so wait, I can only vote for the car thing if I have a facebook account? That is crazy.

 

[dluke]

All she knows is what her son told her. I feel for her too.

I agree. I cannot imagine how devastating it would be to find out a child you raised committed such an act. Parents naturally feel that we are responsible for the morals our children develop and act on as adults (I know I do). I have to come to realize that we can lead our children the right way from Day One, but in the end they make their own path based on so many factors that parents have no control over. I hope that if fool-proof physical evidence comes out, that his mother can find a way to be at peace with herself despite the actions of her offspring. I'm sad for her. And I posted before that I feel the same for his sister. The people who commit these heinous crimes hurt so many people outside of just the victims.

 

[mamamia54]

OT + JMO
Regarding the "hoodie"......After taking a good look at the sketch + hoodie, the very first thing that comes to mind is "criminal" or "hoodlum". It is a stereotype that has somehow been ingrained into me from probably a lot of places like movies, crime news, etc.

But it dawned on me that I think it mostly got ingrained in me from the "UNABOMBER" case, where the sketch of the Unabomber was featured all over the news and made major national news at the time.

Maybe that is where the "hoodies" = "criminals" stereotype mainly got ingrained into all of us. Just a thought, as I was thinking back to the Trayvon Martin case, and all the discussions about hoodies.
Sorry, so off-topic, but wanted to share an "ah ha" moment I had.

OMG I'd better throw away all my hoodies lol. Sorry just thought it was so funny, I'll be seen as a criminal, woman, gang member.