Deceased/Not Found CA - Sierra LaMar, 15, Morgan Hill, 16 March 2012 #17 *A. Garcia-Torres guilty*

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  • #862
Yeah, right. This is a horrible case for LE and they want nothing more than to catch the real person who did this. They aren't looking to pin it on someone just to solve a case. They want to find and prosecute this guy because they know that he took SL.

My brother in law works at Safeway with a friend of ATG and this friend told him that word "on the street is that SL father was involved in a drug cartel and they took SL" as some sort of pay back. What? Give me a break!

It's just so crazy the things people hear "on the street". Not sure what street that is, but on the street where I live, LE in this investigation rock and they are gonna solve this nonsense, starting today when they arraign this jerk for committing a horrendous crime.

Not very original - Samantha K? Isabel C?
 
  • #863
I haven't been reading on the pages the family is posting on, but has it changed from "he wouldn't be with that nasty ho" to Sierra "willingly" went with him, BECAUSE "she's a nasty ho", and AGT had an affair and that's why he said he didn't know her???
 
  • #864
I could be very wrong but I think they can make a plea deal up to the time the case is given to the jury for a verdict.

i think you're right.. but the BEST possible offer is given at pre-trial. i know of someone who was offered one sentence at pre-trial... he didn't immediately accept... but they went to lunch and when they came back to the meeting, the sentence/offer had 6 months added on to it (this was a person that was already facing a possible 7 year sentence). anyone who is guilty and is presented with all of the evidence that clearly can't be refuted should just suck it up and take the first pre-trial offer they're given, ASAP. obviously if he is guilty and figures he has nothing to lose, he might just let the trial happen. it all depends, too, on his defense team & what they urge him to do. i'm so interested to see what happens in this case.
 
  • #865
Wow, it's really difficult to understand her. When she's talking about what Antolin told her about passing that way, Sierra's home, she apparently doesn't even know that he was on a cul-de-sac. Yikes.


I just watched this video for the first time. I really feel sorry for his mother...she had no clue that he was involved. I think now she realizes that he was...several times near the end of the video she raises her eyebrows as if to question what Antolin told her. I really don't think she knew anything at all until now and she is just shocked. She says she believes what Antolin says but her body language says different. Of course she is going to still love him, because he is her son. She probably did everything she could to raise both of her boys right and now look- 1 dead and 1 in jail for murder/rape/kidnapping. I am in no way defending AGT...He deserves to rot. I just feel for his mom!
 
  • #866
Waiting, waiting...F5, waiting, waiting..F5, F5, F5, F5

too funny! I have a mac at work and the f5 doesn't refresh the page! lol
 
  • #867
Is there really any chance he didn't do it? Something seems off to me about this, and Ive tried running every scenario through my head, but the evidence against him is pretty damning. And thats just the evidence we know of.

1)His DNA on items found in her bag.
2)Her DNA found in his car.
3)Him being linked to a previous assault using a stun gun
4)He went 'fishing' the next day

Now 1 and 2 are very convincing, but its possible he could explain that in some way. But if LE has good evidence linking him to the previous attack(s), then #3 is pretty darn convincing. #4 doesn't really matter unless they find a body where he said he went fishing (I think it was a misdirection if anything).

So withthis evidence alone, Im thinking linking him to the previous cases may be the most important think LE can do. If they have a DNA match from a previous case (I dont think they do) this would be a slamdunk.

IMO.

And his car is spotted on video in the crime scene areas during the right time frame. Bet he wishes he didn't drive such a distictive car now. Hopefully they have video of the car on SL's street.
 
  • #868
Waiting, waiting...F5, waiting, waiting..F5, F5, F5, F5

too funny! I have a mac at work and the f5 doesn't refresh the page! lol

Thanks, I never knew about that. It works! Now I'm wondering what all those other F keys do...
 
  • #869
Is there really any chance he didn't do it? Something seems off to me about this, and Ive tried running every scenario through my head, but the evidence against him is pretty damning. And thats just the evidence we know of.

1)His DNA on items found in her bag.
2)Her DNA found in his car.
3)Him being linked to a previous assault using a stun gun
4)He went 'fishing' the next day

Now 1 and 2 are very convincing, but its possible he could explain that in some way. But if LE has good evidence linking him to the previous attack(s), then #3 is pretty darn convincing. #4 doesn't really matter unless they find a body where he said he went fishing (I think it was a misdirection if anything).

So withthis evidence alone, Im thinking linking him to the previous cases may be the most important think LE can do. If they have a DNA match from a previous case (I dont think they do) this would be a slamdunk.

IMO.

Sjsleuth--I hear Ya!

I have held back commenting on his arrest until I hear what the evidence against him is. Especially why LE is so sure Sierra has been murdered.

As far as the family is concerned , seems they sure have their share of issues, but that does not "prove" he is a murderer. I am sure LE will state all the evidence they have after his arraignment. Then all the pieces of this puzzle and our questions will be answered.
 
  • #870
I know this has been posted/discussed - but just a refresher in light of what we now know and what his defenders are saying. This may help discredit potential (IMO bogus) alibis.

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/south_bay&id=8651327
Surveillance cameras and witnesses put the car near Sierra's Morgan Hill home on March 16 and also near where her cell phone and purse were later found.
"It is more than one source and these sources are a combination of residential cameras, business cameras, as well as bus cameras in the area during the time that Sierra disappeared. We just can't give a specific number because it is still an open investigation," said Santa Clara County Sheriff's Dept Sgt. Jose Cardoza.
 
  • #871
Well I have blue eyes and brown hair. Oh wait, let me check the last color I used on my hair. lol

Hazel eyes here, with Colorsilk 57 hair color. :)
 
  • #872
At what point does acting weird become the "new normal"? If he has been acting weird for a few months, she may assume it is the pregnancy upsetting him, or the death of his brother. A little longer? The loss of a job, or having to move the family in with his mom. Back further? Money problems. Legal issues. The first pregnancy. She probably HAS noticed he gets "stressed" but attributed it to things she knew about.


or having an affair......
 
  • #873
they already have a previous DNA match from another case.

Are you sure about that? Because they already had his DNA in the system, so if that was the case, they would have already had him linked to the other case before SL went missing.

The news report I saw claimed "They have EVIDENCE linking him to a previous case", but they didn't say DNA evidence.

This to me could be a huge problem. Maybe the MO in this case is similar to the previous case, and they have evidence pointing him to SL's dissapearance so if they can prove he was guilty here, then they can prove he was guilty in the past case.

Its different than if they are trying to work the other way around, but all depends on what evidence they have.

If I were a juror, I would still want to know what his connection was to SL?

1)Was he connected through a family/friend?
2)Did he have some sort of relationsip/friendship with her?
3)Did he often drive by the bus stop and see her waiting?
4+)etc......

OR, did he just happen do drive out that day, and pull up to a random house (down in a cul-da-sac and see her leaving her house) and then decided abduct her?

Id also want to know his typical schedule, and his schedule the day she went missing. His family claims he left home at 6:50am (not confirmed AFAIK), did he arrive at work or wherever he was headed right after that? Or does he have no alibi, and he missing for a few hours that morning?

This are all important questions IMO, even though they have DNA evidence, its possible the defense will come up with an explanation for that. If the defense proves (or even brings doubt) that he didn't have the opportunity to commit the crime, then jurors might not be convinced by the DNA evidence.

Very interested to see what new information comes out today.
 
  • #874
I tried that, and my son defriended me on his facebook. The only things I see now is when he talks to his brothers on FB.

How old is your son?
 
  • #875
Are you sure about that? Because they already had his DNA in the system, so if that was the case, they would have already had him linked to the other case before SL went missing.

The news report I saw claimed "They have EVIDENCE linking him to a previous case", but they didn't say DNA evidence.

This to me could be a huge problem. Maybe the MO in this case is similar to the previous case, and they have evidence pointing him to SL's dissapearance so if they can prove he was guilty here, then they can prove he was guilty in the past case.

Its different than if they are trying to work the other way around, but all depends on what evidence they have.

If I were a juror, I would still want to know what his connection was to SL?

1)Was he connected through a family/friend?
2)Did he have some sort of relationsip/friendship with her?
3)Did he often drive by the bus stop and see her waiting?
4+)etc......

OR, did he just happen do drive out that day, and pull up to a random house (down in a cul-da-sac and see her leaving her house) and then decided abduct her?

Id also want to know his typical schedule, and his schedule the day she went missing. His family claims he left home at 6:50am (not confirmed AFAIK), did he arrive at work or wherever he was headed right after that? Or does he have no alibi, and he missing for a few hours that morning?

This are all important questions IMO, even though they have DNA evidence, its possible the defense will come up with an explanation for that. If the defense proves (or even brings doubt) that he didn't have the opportunity to commit the crime, then jurors might not be convinced by the DNA evidence.

Very interested to see what new information comes out today.

isn't that what the Sheriff stated at the PC?

I'm sure I heard her say, we have him linked, via DNA to one of 3 previous assaults on females or attempted abductions. Can't remember the exact words but I'll find them.
 
  • #876
What time is the hearing today? Thanks
 
  • #877
We also have information that we've just recently
developed that there were three assaults in Morgan Hill about
three years ago, in March of 2009. We have linked one of
those to our suspect through forensic evidence.
He was booked
last night for murder and kidnapping.

From the presser...BBM
 
  • #878
isn't that what the Sheriff stated at the PC?

I'm sure I heard her say, we have him linked, via DNA to one of 3 previous assaults on females or attempted abductions. Can't remember the exact words but I'll find them.

The sheriff stated the following:

He's linked to one of the three other assaults through 'FORENSIC EVIDENCE:.
 
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Are you sure about that? Because they already had his DNA in the system, so if that was the case, they would have already had him linked to the other case before SL went missing.

The news report I saw claimed "They have EVIDENCE linking him to a previous case", but they didn't say DNA evidence.

This to me could be a huge problem. Maybe the MO in this case is similar to the previous case, and they have evidence pointing him to SL's dissapearance so if they can prove he was guilty here, then they can prove he was guilty in the past case.

Its different than if they are trying to work the other way around, but all depends on what evidence they have.

If I were a juror, I would still want to know what his connection was to SL?

1)Was he connected through a family/friend?
2)Did he have some sort of relationsip/friendship with her?
3)Did he often drive by the bus stop and see her waiting?
4+)etc......

OR, did he just happen do drive out that day, and pull up to a random house (down in a cul-da-sac and see her leaving her house) and then decided abduct her?

Id also want to know his typical schedule, and his schedule the day she went missing. His family claims he left home at 6:50am (not confirmed AFAIK), did he arrive at work or wherever he was headed right after that? Or does he have no alibi, and he missing for a few hours that morning?

This are all important questions IMO, even though they have DNA evidence, its possible the defense will come up with an explanation for that. If the defense proves (or even brings doubt) that he didn't have the opportunity to commit the crime, then jurors might not be convinced by the DNA evidence.

Very interested to see what new information comes out today.
I do not believe the other case had dna.. it was an uncompleted attack. I think they got prints from the tazer... :moo:


eta: fingerprints are also forensic evidence so this could be possible
 
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